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by Otter
Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:58 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: EcoGreen F2 500GB not as quiet as expected
Replies: 35
Views: 7211

It's only after I changed all the fans (they are now all truly inaudible) that I noticed the hard disk noise. Before that I was perfectly happy with it. That is the typical mod cycle. This may get me branded as a heretic, but have you considered turning the fans back up? If you were happy with the ...
by Otter
Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:28 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: EcoGreen F2 500GB not as quiet as expected
Replies: 35
Views: 7211

Are you saying the drive is quiet in the recording, but noisy in your house?
by Otter
Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:10 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: EcoGreen F2 500GB not as quiet as expected
Replies: 35
Views: 7211

Sounds like you might have gotten one with a poorly balanced platter. OTOH, you're going from a 2.5" drive that spins at 4200 RPM to a 3.5" drive that spins at 5400 RPM. Still, it ought to be inaudible at 12db, so I think it's a safe bet that your drive is louder than the reviewed sample.
by Otter
Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:40 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: EcoGreen F2 500GB not as quiet as expected
Replies: 35
Views: 7211

I agree with Niel. If you haven't decoupled the drive yet, that's what you need to do. The SPCR tests reflect a suspended drive for because most silencers will suspend their drives and because the unsuspended noise has as much to do with the case as it does with the drive.
by Otter
Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:17 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: possible to change HD PCB ?
Replies: 7
Views: 2295

As to how I ended up with that problem : the HDs are 2.5 inches IDE drives so I have to use an adaptor to plug the regular IDE cable (50 pins ?) to the HDs (44 pins ?). The adaptor doesn't have the normal anti-screw-up thing on it so when I plugged the drive back in (yearly case cleanup), I screwed...
by Otter
Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:56 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Backup to disk storage in a business environment
Replies: 29
Views: 5913

I'm not convinced the enterprise/raid versions of the drives are worth the higher cost. I suspect that these drives are often often the same as the consumer versions, but with different firmware and more hype. But I don't run a server farm, so what do I know?
by Otter
Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:01 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Backup to disk storage in a business environment
Replies: 29
Views: 5913

Re: Backup to disk storage in a business environment

Hinting is when you say something other than what you mean in hopes that the person you are talking to will ignore the meaning of what you actually said and take the meaning of what you didn't say, but were thinking, as opposed to the millions of things you didn't say but weren't thinking. Communica...
by Otter
Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:17 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Backup to disk storage in a business environment
Replies: 29
Views: 5913

How often do you back up to disk and to tape, and how critical is that data? Would loosing half a day's worth be a major problem or just a minor annoyance?
by Otter
Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:18 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

Take some deep breaths and relax, friends. We've got nothing to argue about here. It's a busy time of year, and computer errors can make anyone crazy. I think we can get ESTools working, though. JVM, I agree Samsung's instructions could use some work. And I don't understand why their tech would tell...
by Otter
Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:29 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

I'm confused. If you have to reboot from a floppy into DOS for the Hitachi utility, how is that different from the one from Samsung? Samsung's version does come with it's own basic OS, doesn't it? DOS or a stripped down Linux?
by Otter
Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:35 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

CCTL

While poking around the internet, I discovered that Samsung doesn't have a utility to enable CCTL (similar to Seagate's ERC and WD's TLER) on the F1 series. Either the drive has it, because you paid up to get the "RAID class" model, or it doesn't. This makes me wonder if these new F3 drives will ten...
by Otter
Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:06 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

I think that's probably because the WD drives were tested on a system where nothing was running in the background.
by Otter
Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:26 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

I ran the test with a brand new formatted F3, nothing on it, and also got a few down-spikes. If it is a background program, then it happens even with an empty disk. While I don't fully understand why you're getting them, I've seen enough graphs with downward spikes like that that I doubt it's a sig...
by Otter
Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:35 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

JVM wrote:Now that is amazing, the Hitachi utility works for Samsung but the Samsung utilities don't work for Samsung F3. :roll:
That is interesting. Does it give you an error message?
by Otter
Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:32 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

Another theory? Well, WD has a reputation, and reviews, for being faster than Samsung in general, and I think most of the market is looking for speed. The F3 is a new model and may be as f:D ast or possibly faster than the WD 640GB Black, but that is not proven yet in reviews--I have not seen a sin...
by Otter
Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:08 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

Do you have any comment to make on that statement at newegg: Cons: When the hdd head is in action, you can notice the click it makes racing across the platter. Yes. There isn't much detail to go on, but my guess is that the click is just normal seek noise. With the drive hard-mounted to a light alu...
by Otter
Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:09 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

Quite a statement about all newegg.com reviewers. There are some useful comments on newegg.com from people who are advanced beyond the beginner stage. Did I say anything at all about "all newegg.com reviewers"? No. Ask enough drunks at the bar and you might find one who knows what he's talking abou...
by Otter
Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:51 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Is it me or does the Quiet Drive suck?
Replies: 18
Views: 8323

Re: 2 WD10EADS in Scythe quiet drive

I could not get the speedfan to read hd temp. I found another one for you to try. I've read that some RAID controllers don't pass on SMART data, but CrystalDiskInfo is free, and much simpler to set up (just run it). http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en If I were you, I'd skip the beta at the top of the...
by Otter
Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:25 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

I have one F3 500GB sitting idle waiting for Windows 7. All I can say at this time is the F3 is extremely quiet and runs cool. You can read comments on newegg.com about both the F3 500GB and 1TB versions. Reading Newegg reviews is about as useful as asking random drunks in a bar. But especially whe...
by Otter
Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:06 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

That depends on several factors, but I don't want to jack this thread anymore. Let's hear about those new F3's. :D
by Otter
Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:19 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

The thing about RAID 0 (and RAID 1) is that it doesn't make the seeks any faster. In fact, it will usually slow them down slightly. If you're transferring really large files, striping the data across two drives can nearly double the transfer rate. But when you're not moving huge amounts of sequentia...
by Otter
Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:14 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung F3 series - 500GB per platter - 7200RPM - 500GB/1TB
Replies: 169
Views: 121878

No, you don't need 1TB to back-up two 500GB in RAID 0. You can use Acronis True Image and it will compress the RAID 0 1TB to the 500GB drive, and then you can restore to your new RAID 0 array, at least that was what I've been told. I think what you were told about was not a compressed backup but a ...
by Otter
Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:54 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Is it me or does the Quiet Drive suck?
Replies: 18
Views: 8323

Re: Scythe Quiet Drive & WD10EADS

Cross wrote: How do I measure before and after temperatures on the HD´s ?
Speedfan will do it.
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
by Otter
Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:55 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Confused about HDD selection
Replies: 10
Views: 2980

When reading reviews from sites that aren't focused on recording or silencing, keep in mind that to some people "very quiet" means they can hear the drive in the next room with the TV on, but it's not loud enough to blot out the dialog. If you care enough about noise that you found your way here, ac...
by Otter
Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:18 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: WD20EADS First Impressions
Replies: 8
Views: 8622

The vibration is all transferred to the spindle making the whole array vibrate, along with the casing. Obviously. The other consideration is that the extra platter requires an extra head. The heads move very rapidly, which are also another source of vibration (maybe even larger, given the counterwe...
by Otter
Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:14 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Hard-Disk Dampening.
Replies: 7
Views: 2120

I do find it puzzling that the whoosh of that drive is noticeable, but the seeks are not when hardmounted. It is a pretty quiet drive, maybe the motor bearing is going bad? So do I. Are you sure the noise is coming from the drive? At least 99 times out of 100, if you can hear a hard drive bearing g...
by Otter
Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:59 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: WD20EADS First Impressions
Replies: 8
Views: 8622

Nope. If center of mass resides on spindle axis (platters are balanced) even with thousand platters = ZERO vibration. This is why vibration is hit or miss. Of course 4 platter drive has more theoretical potential for vibration as there's more to be misbalanced, but misbalances can also cancel each ...
by Otter
Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:50 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Looking for recommendations on 1 TB drives
Replies: 10
Views: 2303

True. You don't want to keep running for weeks on one drive if the other fails. Personally, I would be inclined to shut down the computer if I could possibly get by until the new drive arrived, and if I did have to keep going, I'd back up anything critical. Even if the drives are not identical, ther...
by Otter
Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:25 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Looking for recommendations on 1 TB drives
Replies: 10
Views: 2303

Lodestar, which version of the 7200.12 do you have and what are the acoustics like?
by Otter
Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:18 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Looking for recommendations on 1 TB drives
Replies: 10
Views: 2303

For RAID 1, writes will be limited by the slowest drive. While two similar drives may perform about the same overall, you'll get the performance of the slowest drive in every situation. In some configurations, differences in read performance could be a problem too. Hence, the ideal is to use identic...