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by yukon
Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:42 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Thermalright HR-22 CPU Heatsink
Replies: 21
Views: 38438

Re: Thermalright HR-22 CPU Heatsink

That m-itx photo is hilarious, Abula. The weight of massive coolers is a concern, at least when the mounting design is inadequate; thankfully, the push-pin mounting era seems over. Since most PCs only get one CPU heatsink, a cooler made large enough to gain insignificant returns can be worthwhile ov...
by yukon
Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:33 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Thermalright HR-22 CPU Heatsink
Replies: 21
Views: 38438

Re: Thermalright HR-22 CPU Heatsink

I love these surface-area monster coolers. I still use an Orochi or two, if you remember those mammoth coolers with wide fin spacing. The passive-cooling chart is fascinating.
by yukon
Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:25 pm
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Our Lapped CPU Heatsink Test Platform
Replies: 37
Views: 18776

Re: Our Lapped CPU Heatsink Test Platform

Testing must have taken a lot of patience. Furthering what MKK said, review sites won't have had the time or patience to get a conclusion like that, let alone users with limited resources. To repeat nicke2323's comment, this is why we need SPCR. Thanks for addressing whatever user criticism there wa...
by yukon
Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:27 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: antec p-183 vs. 182- final conclusion/s?
Replies: 24
Views: 5780

If you like Enermax, I like their Modu87+ 500w. High efficiency, modular, big fan, although I haven't heard it running or used it (mine is a Modu82 IIRC). That's an interesting review, thanks for posting it. It isn't an SCPR review, but it's fairly good. I like the thermal imaging. I don't think the...
by yukon
Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:00 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Antec Sonata Elite ATX Mid-Tower Case
Replies: 40
Views: 22047

Good review. I liked the Sonata when it first came out, a mainstream case focused on style and quiet. The P180/2 made it to be not the quietest Antec case. Since the changes with the new P183, and the updates to the Sonata, I've been wondering about this case. I dislike the vent next to the HDs; the...
by yukon
Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:10 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE & Athlon II X2 250
Replies: 49
Views: 18763

I also find the power usage numbers a bit confusing, but I use them when I research buying new equipment, and I'm not researching lately. "Intel's advantage is simple: their chips perform well for the price and are more energy efficient." This is disappointing. I was a big AMD fan back in the later ...
by yukon
Sat May 30, 2009 2:57 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Single Moving Part PC in Silverstone TJ08
Replies: 31
Views: 15872

I think this is where silent computing could be heading. A single very-slow large exhaust fan keeps air flowing slowly, and passive coolers silently take advantage of it. The versatility of HSF heatpipes is good information, and the 120mm food-bin duct cools it effectively (better than a 92mm fan + ...
by yukon
Fri May 29, 2009 10:02 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Antec P183: The P182 Gets More Air
Replies: 145
Views: 85560

Now, isn't this a contradiction in terms? Antec CP-850 follows the CPX standard defined by Antec, while the "long, modular PSUs" don't comply with any standard! (The ATX/PS2 standard says PSUs are to be no more than 15cm long.) Long modular PSUs are a hack. I'm sure they fit a lot of ATX cases, and...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 9:20 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Antec P183: The P182 Gets More Air
Replies: 145
Views: 85560

the door definitely has a very positive, significant reduction of noise. I doubt very much we could measure any significant difference in noise reduction between the old door and the new because it is only one of many sound paths between the noise sources in the PC and the listener The arguments ag...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 4:16 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Nexus 80mm Basic makes ODD noise
Replies: 4
Views: 1078

A drop or two of a very light oil (eg. silicone) on the bearing can help. It's usually behind a sticker. Myself, I would replace the fan. Ball bearing fans get loud when they're about to fail. Yours may have a manufacturing defect. On a computer that relies on quiet fans, a failed fan can lead to ov...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 4:12 pm
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: Galaxy 260
Replies: 12
Views: 2414

Awesome. I've always hated videocard fans. They're small and loud. I wonder how many PCI/e slots that cooler takes up. ATX really needs to be updated to somehow give the videocard more space for larger coolers.
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 4:09 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: How are Asus Dvd Writers[?]
Replies: 8
Views: 2206

No idea. I use the LG SuperMulti ones. They're usually just a couple dollars more than the Samsung drives. I haven't noticed them being loud, but I don't use them often and they're behind case doors.
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 4:08 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: 1+ TB drives at X-bit Labs
Replies: 1
Views: 1123

I've been really afraid of the 1.5TB drives since the Seagate bricking issue (Seagategate). My 1TB drives have been very reliable, but I'm glad they're finally moving forward with larger drives.
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 4:04 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Build Advice for CASE/CPU COOLER/FAN(s) and maybe PSU
Replies: 2
Views: 1263

That list of components looks very good. You may want to try a case that is more geared for cooling, since four harddrives and x51 likely generate a lot of heat...I don't know how much heat Core i7 generates, but it's an impressive CPU. I'm totally unfamiliar with ATI's graphics GPUs. I don't say th...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 3:57 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Scythe scorc Orochi in Antec mini p180?
Replies: 6
Views: 2821

When I had one, the Ninja used pushpins to mount to Intel's socket (775). It worked OK, but it popped off while the computer was on, so I returned it for a thermalright. I have two Orochi's, and they work very well passively. I also have a thermalright tower (IIRC 120 Extreme), and it also works wel...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 3:47 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Quiet 140mm fan
Replies: 8
Views: 2685

SPCR testing argued/showed that LED lights have less-flexible plastic, so they transmit vibration. IOW, they make more noise. I wouldn't get a 140mm <-> 120mm adapter unless you can't find a 140mm fan in your area. Mathematically, 140mm fans should be either twice as powerful or half as loud as an e...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 3:03 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Antec P183: The P182 Gets More Air
Replies: 145
Views: 85560

It's ironic how you start off with a good big picture statement then launch into a tirade about the P183 and our review. Until you hear (the case door) yourself, you're in no position to judge. No question the door works ...PSU. So it's not ATX -- who really cares? ...contrary to SPCR... morality??...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 2:33 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Antec P183: The P182 Gets More Air
Replies: 145
Views: 85560

how difficult would it be for Antec to offer options for the door, or even aftermarket replacement doors? It is after all an easily-removable part. Then they wouldn't have to try and "win with a single case for all people" as you say. I'd take the P182 over the P180 for one simple reason - cable ma...
by yukon
Mon May 18, 2009 1:12 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Antec P183: The P182 Gets More Air
Replies: 145
Views: 85560

Designing these things is all about tradeoffs. Make the front door solid, and it holds back noise but people call it a fridge. Add holes, and it allows more noise but also more airflow, yet people say the holes are ugly. They can't win with a single case for all people. Still, I hate the direction t...
by yukon
Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:19 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: As of right now, what is the best sound [dampening] product?
Replies: 37
Views: 25983

Oh, you can get it in Home Depot type stores in building materials. It's a replacement for fiberglass. Rock wool, a type of mineral wool like fiberglass, is more expensive, but more fireresistant, so they're using it as premium insulation now. Roxul's promotional materials a few years ago said it ha...
by yukon
Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:42 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: As of right now, what is the best sound [dampening] product?
Replies: 37
Views: 25983

Mass loading is relatively easy. Glue heavy stuff to the box. Floor tiles work great. Absorption is difficult. Mineral wool tended to come apart, and ISTR it changed colour here after some time, and smelled bad (probably just the sample). I've seen a number of foam types degrade over time. On many o...
by yukon
Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:41 pm
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: 40mm CPU cooler suggestions?
Replies: 16
Views: 6641

LOL, wow. Good adapter setup. I'm going to have to agree with the removal of the 40mm fan. Those things are always loud, even at low airflow, since they have to rotate so fast. Screechy little devils. VIA CPUs run cool. I'd suggest getting a far larger passive heatsink if they exist for that mountin...
by yukon
Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:22 pm
Forum: Site Feedback
Topic: Please start testing 140mm fans
Replies: 11
Views: 13449

I have the Scythe and the two Yate Loon fans, but that just means I can already compare them subjectively myself. Unfortunately, the current status under Calling All Good Fans has been "Please don't send any more fans right now. Trying to find time to fully develop testing / recording rig for first ...
by yukon
Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:45 pm
Forum: Site Feedback
Topic: Please start testing 140mm fans
Replies: 11
Views: 13449

I'd also like 140mm tests for the following reasons: Mechanically, 140mm is superior. 80mm -> 120mm was theoretically either twice the airflow or half the noise. I've been told that when the hub motor size is factored in (it can usually stay the same size), the 120mm to 140mm transition is similar b...
by yukon
Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:58 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: 120MM Side Case Fan
Replies: 12
Views: 4094

Xigmatek X-1283 looks good, a copy of Thermalright's tower. I don't know of any benchmarks on it. Punctuation helps make meaning clearer, so while I don't care much about perfect grammar, it's kinder to make things clearer. I'd suggest a 120mm front fan if possible. My P180 has this feature. More ai...
by yukon
Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:54 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Silence yet performance, is it possible?
Replies: 14
Views: 5672

I like my P180. The P182 is the improved version. According to SCPR's new review, the Thermalright 120 Extreme seems to be outdated to the HR-01 Plus for low-airflow setups. The TR 120 E did best in medium to high airflow, while the Orochi hasn't been tested by SCPR yet, so I think the earlier advic...
by yukon
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:00 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Silence yet performance, is it possible?
Replies: 14
Views: 5672

Orochi for passive or low airflow cooling, Thermalright 120 Ultra for low to high airflow cooling. That's just a general guide to the two. Both extremely excellent, and the Thermalright 120's work great passively here. 580W is high, and they sell a 480W Type-R, so you could save some money there. I ...
by yukon
Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:39 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: 120MM Side Case Fan
Replies: 12
Views: 4094

Bit more punctuation please :)

With those temperatures, unless you're planning to overclock, the better idea would be to remove fans and run things more passively.
by yukon
Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:36 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Which case is quietest ?
Replies: 12
Views: 4814

People who know they need two 9800GX2 GPUs can get them. I don't see how they could possibly be needed outside scientific vector computing, since SLI isn't efficient enough, and it doubles the heat and power draw each instance. I think it's better to save money, and buy the next card that comes out,...
by yukon
Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:26 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Silence yet performance, is it possible?
Replies: 14
Views: 5672

Bill Gates, a bit. Current price points put the e8400 at or near the best performance for price ratio. I'd actually recommend the Q9450, but that can depend on what the computer is doing. The e8400 is cheaper in USA by at least 40$. I still recommend the Accelero S1 Rev2 or S2. It will silently cool...