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by Wild Penguin
Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:41 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Unusual setup – case and placement recommendations
Replies: 15
Views: 16471

Re: Unusual setup – case and placement recommendations

If you have always on hdd , they will most likeky to be the dominate noise. I dont really think energy consumption should be a real concern even if you are located energy expensive euro. Typically diy or off the shelf nas idle at 20-30w, which is like 2-3 led/ccfl bulb. And you can use network slee...
by Wild Penguin
Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:30 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

Added Enerdyne response to my post #2: I got reply (actually quite promptly in less than 24 hours - just haven't had time to update here) about my reflow procedure experiences. Here's part of their reply: Yes, it is quite possible to partially/fully reflow IX/XS while in BIOS (higher power dissipati...
by Wild Penguin
Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:34 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Experience Going CPU fanless with top and rear exhaust fans
Replies: 11
Views: 6978

Re: Experience Going CPU fanless with top and rear exhaust f

my reasoning is that if the cooler cannot move any more heat then additional fans won't make any difference. If I didn't misunderstood, whether that were true, than it would be due to the fact you were mosty recirculating hot air inside your case. I also suspect, that something like this is happeni...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:19 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Fan controller
Replies: 7
Views: 6053

Re: Fan controller

You are talking about "alternatives to relying on the motherboard for fan control". I think herein lies a part of the confusion: the BIOS firmware (and/or accompanying fan controller firmware on the MB) is separate thing to the hardware (controlling the fan headers) . All of the limitations describe...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:31 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Fan controller
Replies: 7
Views: 6053

Re: Fan controller

If you want your fan speeds to be controled according to CPU temperature, and if your MB had anough fan headers, then I don't see any point in using an additional fan controller? I may be missing something, since I haven't investigated these external fan controllers that are available on the market ...
by Wild Penguin
Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:58 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Slim 140mm fans - any experiences?
Replies: 5
Views: 13086

Re: Slim 140mm fans - any experiences?

Just in case anyone is interested, I tried the Cryorig fan in the configuration above. My two findings / conclusions were: The fan does not sound bad in this configuration, i.e. no resonance / turbulance sounds are caused by the proximity of the case panel ("roof"). Cooling performance degraded noti...
by Wild Penguin
Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:18 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Slim 140 mm fan?
Replies: 4
Views: 3781

Re: Slim 140 mm fan?

Did you notice this thread a while back?

I can recommend the Cryorig 140mm slim fan subjectively, since that's what I ordered for testing. Not the cheapest of the bunch, however.
by Wild Penguin
Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:00 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Best CPU+MOBO power to power consumption ratio?
Replies: 10
Views: 11215

Re: Best CPU+MOBO power to power consumption ratio?

So your usage will be quite light, despite having 2-3 VMs ? An important question is: What is your CPU usage pattern? I take it that the picture you included was meant to answer this :) Don't look at the TDP, however. A while ago there was a thread you may be interested in: Intel Core i3-i5-i7 Haswe...
by Wild Penguin
Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:04 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Cryorig H7 alternative?
Replies: 3
Views: 4995

Re: Cryorig H7 alternative?

I can speak for the NH-C14 (without S), which I bought before the NH-C14S was released. It is quite efficient for it's size - but also expensive, I've read, compared others on the same size class. It is also quite versatile - if I ever change my case! You didn't specify your processor or your size c...
by Wild Penguin
Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:14 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel Core i3-i5-i7 Haswell/Skylake TDP/PassMark/Price chart
Replies: 10
Views: 9196

Re: Intel Core i3-i5-i7 Haswell/Skylake TDP/PassMark/Price c

And this TDP thing again.. ;) The factory underclocked parts are nothing special. The T-part is not more efficient, it's the same CPU with different settings. Get the 4690T if you want, but please do so because you like the turbo frequency or something real. Not because you believe that it draws 45...
by Wild Penguin
Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:34 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

That s what happen on some of my heatsink with copper base. Oh, I misunderstood that you meant my pictures. There was nothing visible on the heatsink after remowing the TIM. However, wiping with alcohol and the included solvent + swipes, there is some blackish residue left on the swipe / cotton swa...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:23 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

Pk3 seems to leave some black substance on the heatsink? No, it is caused by my photography skillz :lol: I was trying to get a good picture of the webby pattern caused by the TIM. It had a very consistent and even colour. I had bad lightning and my cell phone camera is not that good - and using a f...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:10 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

6. Conclusions and final thoughts: Main conclusions: I think the Indigo XS is on par with the PK-3. There is a small difference in favor of Indigo XS (EDIT: I had mistakenly written here PK-3) , but that difference is mostly < 1°C. This could be explained by changes in my testing room temperature o...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:10 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

5. The Results: Failure means that a single cores temperature had reached 89°C. I couldn't decide which values I should include, so sorry for this a little bit daunting table: Indigo X Prolimatech PK-3 Ambient min avg max Ambient min avg max 5v idle 22 27,2 29,4 33,0 22 28,5 31,5 40,5 5v oggenc 21 ...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:10 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

4. More about the fan settings chosen: Ambient temperature in the testing room was recorded during the test, and is provided with the results. However, the temperature sensor I used only has 1°C of resolution! The tests were run roughly on the same time of the day (overnight and during a working da...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:09 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

3. More about testing procedure and configuration The tests were done in KDE5. I shut down all other programs while doing testing, and I tried to make all other conceivable measures to make sure the test array runs were as comparable and consistent as it was feasible for me to do. I disabled my DVB...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:09 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

2. Installation Prolimatech PK3: There isn't much to say about using PK-3. I heated PK-3 in hot water in a plastic bag (since PK-3 is quite thick and I red somewhere this should facilitate handling it). A large grain of the PK3 was put on the CPU (not spreaded!), and NH-C14 was installed. The inclu...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:08 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Re: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspectiv

1. Test Hardware: Case: Antec Fusion Case fans: 2 x Nexus clear plastic case fans, D12SL-12 (PWM controllable, but voltage controlled for this test) Power Supply: Seasonic 650W X-Series; SS-650KM Active PFC F3 (X-650) Motherboard: Asus Maximus VII Gene (mATX) CPU: Intel Core i7 4970K (stock clock, ...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:08 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective
Replies: 13
Views: 9753

Indigo XS vs. Prolimatech PK-3 from a silence perspective

Hi all SPCR forum readers! I have recently upgraded my HTPC build, but it's usage has actually evolved into something that is anything else but. As I like tinkering, I was looking for cooling options for the 4790K. While studying the cooling options, I stumbled upon Indigo XS . Indigo XS is somethi...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:01 pm
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

Conclusions and final thoughts: Main conclusions: I think the Indigo XS is on par with the PK-3. There is a small difference in favor of PK-3, but that difference is mostly < 1°C. This could be explained by changes in my testing room temperature only! Installing the Indigo XS was somewhat difficult...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:45 pm
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

The Results: Failure means that a single cores temperature had reached 89°C. I couldn't decide which values I should include, so sorry for this a little bit daunting table: Indigo X Prolimatech PK-3 Ambient min avg max Ambient min avg max 5v idle 22 27,2 29,4 33,0 22 28,5 31,5 40,5 5v oggenc 21 27,...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:13 pm
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

More about the fan settings chosen: Ambient temperature in the testing room was recorded during the test, and is provided with the results. However, the temperature sensor I used only has 1°C of resolution! The tests were run roughly on the same time of the day (overnight and during a working day o...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:03 pm
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

More about testing procedure and configuration The tests were done in KDE5. I shut down all other programs while doing testing, and I tried to make all other conceivable measures to make sure the test array runs were as comparable and consistent as it was feasible for me to do. I disabled my DVB re...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:59 am
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

Installation: Prolimatech PK3: There isn't much to say about using PK-3. I heated PK-3 in hot water in a plastic bag (since PK-3 is quite thick and I red somewhere this should facilitate handling it). A large grain of the PK3 was put on the CPU (not spreaded!), and NH-C14 was installed. The include...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:05 am
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

Test Hardware: Case: Antec Fusion Case fans: 2 x Scythe clear plastic case fans (PWM controllable, but voltage controlled for this test) Power Supply: Seasonic 550W Motherboard: Asus Maximus VII Gene (mATX) CPU: Intel Core i7 4970K (stock clock, adaptive undervolt -0.070V) CPU cooler: Noctua NH-C14...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:40 am
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

Some res | [SPOILERS!] Amb min avg max |Amb min avg max Sum: 526,0 695,2 1211,4 1464,4 |536,0 713,8 1225,8 1488,0 aaa: 526,0 695,2 1211,4 1464,4 |536,0 713,8 1225,8 1488,0 bbb: 526,0 695,2 1211,4 1464,4 |536,0 713,8 1225,8 1488,0 ccc: 526,0 695,2 1211,4 1464,4 |536,0 713,8 1225,8 1488,0 dog: 526,0 ...
by Wild Penguin
Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:13 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Slim 140mm fans - any experiences?
Replies: 5
Views: 13086

Re: Slim 140mm fans - any experiences?

I found a nice review of three low-profile CPU coolers yesterday, with some measurements for their fans included - all included in the above list! The review is in Muropaketti and it is in finnish ( link ) . I have no problem with that, but I'd imagine majority of readers here might have. I also bel...
by Wild Penguin
Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:17 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Slim 140mm fans - any experiences?
Replies: 5
Views: 13086

Re: Slim 140mm fans - any experiences?

Thanks for your reply Abula, for some reason I did not find that thread previously. What do you think about the propeller-looking fans such as the Aeolus Alpha? Are they quiet compared to more conventional quiet fan (taking into account airflow / cooling efficiency)? I noticed some measurements for ...
by Wild Penguin
Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:32 am
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

Something like this could be useful, in case some admin is reading this and want's to add stuff at some point in future... [table] [tr] [th]Temp[/th] [th]Test A [/th] [th]Test B[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]500[/td] [td]5000[/td] [td]>9000![/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]0.9[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td].85[/td] [/tr] [/table]
by Wild Penguin
Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:27 am
Forum: Test Forum
Topic: Spoiler blocks? Tables?
Replies: 9
Views: 30658

Re: Spoiler blocks? Tables?

I guess I could always put the less important details in a subsequent post (or posts in case there is a lot of them).