Now in a pickle, do I put up with it and try to get used to it, or return it? £1300 is no joke for a loud annoying laptop. Ofc return it. There's no point of having burdensome thing if you can change it without any problems. I would return it and get another unit (if you are fully satisfied with th...

Heh, I dig hard for it some time ago - during his procedures he blocks GPU fans at around 1400 rpm and CPU's one at 1100 rpm. Nicely quiet, but on the other hand it doesn't really add noise to the system, so mesh cases have here much easier with their sound-escaping nature not being exposed and sile...

whispercat wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:52 am

And not sure how much those bottom fans actually benefit the GPU.

This is how they benefit: And that's the price of that
The best case for air-cooled CPU temperature fucus, though, but that's a strange focus.

thesmileyone wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:51 pm

Just buy a D15 and run it fanless.

Or just buy D15 and run it below audible speed to achieve even better result.

Passive coolers are for passive people.

You can, but treat yourself better.

This Z590 Gaming Plus is really nice board. If you would like built-in wifi and bluetooth, I would consider comparable Z590 Aorus Elite AX, which also is now on nice sale and $10 cheaper on Newegg. But my advice here is always the same - if no problem use stationary computer with damn stationary cab...

The i7s are more expensive than the 12600k so doesn't make sense to go for those It makes sense and I told you exactly why in my previous post ;) The same with more RAM, so I would go with 32 GB. i7 will do better in your tasks (multiple browser tabs, monitors, generally multitasking), the same in ...

510 boards are garbage and garbage boards won't allow CPU as 11600K reach it's full performance - question is only how noticeably in your tasks. If we talk about gaming, modern games and upcoming ones, difference would be serious enough to see garbage board as definitely bad idea, especially if you ...

There's more scientific than noticeable difference between Dark Rock Pro 4, U14 and D15S, but DRP4 is the best one in terms of cooling/noise balance - will give you the same temperature with lower noise. First choose CPU and mobo, then we will think about the best cooler for you. To my taste overclo...

@arsenal009 12600K is more serious one than 6600K, especially if your usage are multithreaded workloads, so spend more than less on it's cooler. I don't even mean higher temperatures, but imo few years of listening to louder operation isn't worth saving here. Steve gave you great recommendations, bu...

It'll be interesting to see how performance improves with the Snail fan and whether it causes Scythe to also have an S version of the Fuma 2 and Ninja 5. :) Now I compared both coolers and fans specs and see that WS 1800 rpm is 2 dBA quieter than... 1200 rpm Kaze Flex known from other Scythe's cool...

Great cooler got even better, but $55? If I'm not wrong, you can get Ninja 5 and Fuma 2 for $60 and what makes things worse for 5 S, Fuma is the same friendly in terms of no problems with height or ram. If this thing with this 1800 rpm Wonder Snail will beat Fuma in cooling, fine, but I don't think ...

No problem ;) I think that cards have their min speed so high due to high rpm fans - looking at fan speed ratings of various retail fans I see the tendency of higher maxiumum speed pulling minimum one, especially if we talk about DC fans. Probably GPU manufacturers also raise minimum speed due to ty...

From my own experience e.g. ASUS TUF 3080 OC can run even below 700 rpm, MSI cards are not much worse and even my own card is able to stay under 800 rpm, but it was cut with actualization of Aorus Engine due to problems with some units rattling then. I won't argue about the word "most", because I ha...

Most of the cards start their fans with 700-800 rpm and I don't know why it's like that compared to coolers and case fans usually starting with ~300 rpm. Maybe lower speeds are not effective on quite closed, built-up GPU coolers and would sentence cards to thermal throttling. 60-something on chip se...

I always wondered how advanced in cooling solutions are GPU manufacturers compared to cooling industry best like Scythe or Noctua. Asus' card doesn't answer this question due to using unusually big fans and thick heatsink, but makes me wonder why GPU manufacturers doesn't go such direction. Length s...

Der8auer nicely reviewed it https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGsaijjOJshS2_ZmMNZgS-g/videos . Secound video shows, the thing with this card is not awesomeness of A12x25, but just 120 mm fans. Thicker card with bigger fans seems great direction. But I like the most how cooler's design and common fans...

It would be for sure problematic or DIY, but I don't think Phanteks aims people wanting to swap fans on their heatsink. It's quite enthusiastic and rather always sum of money spent on cooler and fan for swap will give you worse result than spending the same money on just better cooler. With T30-120 ...

Cybenetics' soundproof measurements of SB802 and D7 were taken with different equipments. https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=cases&manfID=9999 Email them if you are more interested in such details - they respond nicely and fast. Testing soundproff of windowed versions is also kinda meh. Imo...

Now I see the photos :] I have never tried such kinda air-channeling (no intake or exhaust) fan placements, but it was quite popular in times of whole front filled with HDD cage. Generally every case and configuration is different, so something what worked for mine, may not work for yours. People us...

I can't see your images. I completely don't understand, why you even can think about new case. Main attraction of Define series is, these are silence-focused cases, but with options to open the door or using ventilated top they transform into airflow cases and still are quiter thanks to e.g. sound-d...

Every fan running in closed space with various speeds hits the frequencies resulting in resonant noise. You just need to set your fans to avoid these. I forget your thought about shroud and GPU cooling in previous posts. It happenes that I tested it in the past :D Not with Define 7, which has unremo...

Leave this Apple idea - that's rather some marketing bs. Optimum Tech tried it with Define 7 and results were dissapointing, but it's ofc not fully comparable. Whole goal of this approach - according to Apple - was not about cooling, but noise. They stated that fans running different speeds when pro...

The difference in temps and rpms between open and closed configurations is just suspicious. I tried it few times with my config (9700K, Scythe Ninja 5 + 2070S Gaming OC) in games, so realistic scenario and with door open, no front filter and top removed ( I don't keep top dust filter, so it made one...

I just can't believe that you have problems with airflow or noise with your configuration, so I suspect that changing the case won't change much in terms of temperatures and rather for sure will make things worse in terms of noise. I have similar configuration in Define 7 with e.g. way worse 2070S. ...

@Abula It's looks like it's extremely hard to satisfy you with the case :D You have everything thought out, even upcoming D16 :] Looking at your picture, I don't think that adding side fan blowing into GPU would change much, if anything. I tried installing bottom fan directly under GPU mixed with me...

@CA_Steve My bad with review I posted - one result is all fans running 600 rpm, but secound score is fan curve, not full speed and he doesn't state what speed it is. Other various speeds measurements you will find in OC3D's review. Sadly he doesn't measure cases noise and normalize rpm, so reality o...

I'm still torn between seeing this case as something great in unique way and something trying hard to be different and not making a difference. It's definitely the pinnacle of being here for few years airflow focus, which imo grown to absurd levels. Looking at case man can expect something bringing ...

Seems awesome and quite innovative fan, so hope igor'slab or hardwareluxx will test it with their more serious methodologies. Performace wise some part of it's domination is increased thickness as it means more airflow and static pressure. I generally really like that Noctua starts to get their ass ...

Nice build in it's times it was, but with upcoming one don't bother too much with passive and semi-passive components. Things moved forward to the point, where active cooling is able to be the same silent as passive, but do much better thermally. Decent PSUs (far from high-end as Corsair AX) are unh...