The 35W can simply run within AMD's tolerances at lower voltages than the 45W models. Desktop = 1.55V XP-M 45W = 1.45V XP-M 35W = 1.35V I just got an XP-M 2400+ 35W and an EPoX 8RDA3I+ Pro, and it's running great sofar. I currently have it set to 200x10 @ 1.40V. You can get down to 1.1V, but anythin...

cmcquistion wrote:I have some case mods for the Compucase LX-6A19, which is almost identical to the Sonata.

You can find them here.

Another SLK3700 clone...?

But you can still get Bartons, right?

So teh Thorton is the new Duron?

Sonata = one of their flagships

3700BQE = Half-Breed

wumpus wrote:We are doubling memory bandwith with dual DDR -- pretty reasonable tradoff if you ask me!

nVidia got it to work async.

Ah well, I guess it's AMD for me then.

Further, It is true that to use the BTX-formfactor you will need both a mobo and a case that supports it (unless you don´t use a case:), but if you have a PSU you like you will not need to buy a new, since the ATX-PSU will work with the new standard. Unless you go caseless and get some sort of adap...

The card PCB is different, but not the core. All the changes in performance amount to the increase in clock speeds and driver changes. Driver? You mean the BIOS? But yes, I do understand that the core is the same. That's why your card has no problems (yet) running the 9800Pro BIOS. Esssentially Ati...

http://www.xterasys.com/enclosure_combo-3-5.htm

Doesn't seem to be for sale yet, though. :-\

Versions with Firewire support are supposedly in the works.

But the only difference between a 9800 and a 9700 is the drivers and the clock speed. That's not right, either. The 9700 and 9800 are physically different revisions. But that's not to say those differences don't mean anything as far as the BIOS is concerned. Except for the name difference, of course.

Is it like a checkerboard pattern? If it is then you've got a card with dead pipelines. Which means it's defective, or possibly hacked, but not merely "relabeled" The 9800/9700's have 8, while the 9500/9600's only have 4. Active pipelines, yes. The 9800SE only has 4 pipelines as well (which just ma...

Does anyone understand why they had to change from ATX specs on power cables? I can't see that they added anything new, so the only major difference is that we will need yet another adaptor to connect old PSU to a BTX board. Notice the large difference in size of the PSU on the drawins for differen...

Another good thing that nobody has mentioned is that the mobo is mirrored as opposed to ATX. This means that the mobo is on the other side of a tower case. So cooling of hot video cards becomes easier, because the chips are on top again like they were with ISA years ago. No, that's a bad thing. Now...

My Duron 1.3GHz maxes out at 55C/111F.

I'm figuring this was caused by my crappy thermal pad application, but I'm not gonna bother fixing it.

Jan Kivar wrote:How's the price compated to 3700AMB and Sonata?

The 3700AMB is $72 from Newegg, but it's currently on backorder.

Does anyone know if the fron 120mm fan will mount in front of the hard drives or is it behind them like the Sonata? I would assume it does, since even Antec says it's just a Sonata with a different faceplate. I suspect the real reason is that it looks "different" and "different = cool". cross-breed...

Aaaaaah! They're breeding!

Seriously, what hole does Antec think they're filling. I would much rather see this in Metallic Bronze (like the regular SLK3700) than black. If people want black, they can buy a Sonata...

I have one and it's done me well.

Just keep an eye on those HDD temps!

I've seen them on sale @ CompUSA for $50. Kinda ticks me off since I paid $85 for mine last October.

Echolot wrote:Zalman ZM80A-HP

TOTAL Overkill!

You might be able to get away with just unplugging the fan, but my suggestion would be to grab an old Heatsink and just drill away at it till it fits.

*looks around and notices all the popularity over the SLK3700*

Why does everyone steal my ideas!?

*Boo-Hoo*

What is that? An air conditioning duct?

And hey! You got the same case as me!

As for your hard drive problem: Go get a Seagate. Cold and silent.

That BIOS-based software stuff is useless if you leave the computer running. I always liked Lindows. It's got a slick interface and it's backed by the Linux kernel. Although there's no way it could get into the mainstream and compete with Windows, it sure seems to do a good job of piloting an HTPC, ...

Cuz thats not how convection works.
Also keep in mind is that all that now-hot air that your CPU fan just sucked up now has to go up over the rest of your board.

Asmordean wrote:As for the HDD - Water cooling an HDD is a waste of time IMO unless you are running 10-15K Cheetahs.

Or a Maxtor.

Your hard drive is gonna get fried to a crisp...Maxtors are notorious for their heat output.

I'd say to ditch it and get a Seagate.

The shim is there to prevent you from crushing the core. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is a really weird question in my book...I don't know anyone that has complained about a mouse click being too loud.

My suggestion would be to go to CompUSA and/or Best buy and just tap away on their display models.

I use Twist Ties.

My Coolermaster heatsink has a plastic fan bracket...just put the twist-ties through the screwholes.

If a solid funnel causes backpressure, why not cut vents around the base?

I know it sounds dumb, but the point of the funnel is to guide the airflow, not restrict it.