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by lodestar
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Intel i5-8400 stock cooler vs. ?
Replies: 14
Views: 13221

Re: Intel i5-8400 stock cooler vs. ?

...it seems the 12cm has only a ~2degree advantage at 17dBA (though that advantage does get better by the time we get to 13-14dB). Do I read that right? At 12dB there is an 8C difference which is significant. The U9S is better if you add a second fan but even then it is still 6C behind at 13-14dB. ...
by lodestar
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: How good (quiet) are modern SFX PSU?
Replies: 19
Views: 19941

Re: How good (quiet) are modern SFX PSU?

If you can afford the premium price, then yes Platinum psus are worth it. Bear in mind that there other things that push the price up, for example hybrid fan control and modular cables. There are also constructional differences over cheaper PSUs, principally the quality and temperature rating of the...
by lodestar
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

Another day, another NF-A12x25 review or in this case two reviews. The links are for the test results page. The first is from GreenTech_Reviews (Russian) and the second from Hardware Inside (German).
by lodestar
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:28 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: How good (quiet) are modern SFX PSU?
Replies: 19
Views: 19941

Re: How good (quiet) are modern SFX PSU?

What seems to be happening is that there are existing Gold versions with the same designations. But a Platinum version is on the way, the Platinum SF450 for example has a different part number, CP-9020181-UK to the Gold equivalent. Maybe Corsair should have adopted a slightly different model designa...
by lodestar
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:41 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: How good (quiet) are modern SFX PSU?
Replies: 19
Views: 19941

Re: How good (quiet) are modern SFX PSU?

Corsair have recently released two hybrid modular Platinum SFX PSUs, the SF450 and the SF600. According to them the fan on the SF450 stays off below 90w system load, and below 120w for the SF600. As Platinum units they aren't exactly cheap, the 450 is £90 in the UK and the 600 £105, but they do seem...
by lodestar
Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake
Replies: 27
Views: 13869

Re: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake

I am not sure that a small amount of obstruction is going to make any difference to an intake fan. The amount of blocking of the Define C intake is similar to the Fractal R5/R6 if dual 140s are fitted and I haven't heard of anyone suggesting that they need to be dremeled.
by lodestar
Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:45 am
Forum: Newcomers Briefing Room
Topic: specs for silent pc for audio recording.
Replies: 6
Views: 8179

Re: specs for silent pc for audio recording.

The point about Platinum spec power supplies is that they are more efficient at lower power draws than Gold and not much off Titanium, so the issue of capacity is not the point here. The OP has simply picked the lowest output hybrid Platinum supply available where they are. Hybrid obviously to avoid...
by lodestar
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:27 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Intel i5-8400 stock cooler vs. ?
Replies: 14
Views: 13221

Re: Intel i5-8400 stock cooler vs. ?

From my usual supplier the U9S is relatively expensive at around £50; the U12S is only £5 more. On this basis I would strongly recommend you go for the U12S. If you want to spend less money then from the same source is the Thermalright Macho Rev. B at £40.
by lodestar
Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

A ComputerBase review (in german) PC fan for radiators in the test: Arctic vs. be quiet!, Nanoxia, Noiseblocker, and Noctua. One of the Noctua fans compared is the NF-A12x25.
by lodestar
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:52 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Dynamic X2 vs. Redux vs. Noctua
Replies: 6
Views: 3407

Re: Dynamic X2 vs. Redux vs. Noctua

To me the Redux NF-P14S 1200 PWM would be worth the extra C$6 over the Dynamic X2. Partly its because it can go right down to around 300 rpm under idle which is less than the lowest idle speed of the X2. Partly its because if you stress it to 800 to 1000 rpm most people seem to agree that the tone i...
by lodestar
Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: poor asus website support
Replies: 12
Views: 12044

Re: poor asus website support

nimo11 wrote:tried to look on asus website support for memory and psu compatibility for the mobo i'm planning to buy.
Which motherboard is this?
by lodestar
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:47 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w
Replies: 26
Views: 15384

Re: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w

Intel Desktop CPU TDP numbers cause confusion because they are quoted in watts. This leads to the assumption that it's linked to power consumption, that is electrical watts when in fact it is about the heat in thermal watts that the CPU produces when it consumes power. As Intel put it themselves* "....
by lodestar
Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:20 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

My only question is how much will this wunderkind of a HSF cost? Two NF-A12X25s and a redesigned HS with two more heatpipes. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out at close to double the price of the NH-U12S. See the video on this page from HEXUS.net . Noctua are estimating the price as $100 US/€1...
by lodestar
Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w
Replies: 26
Views: 15384

Re: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w

There's practically no difference! It's just that the electric power fed to the CPU is all transformed into thermal power by the work done in the CPU. TDP for Intel desktop CPUs is simply intended to be a relative guide as to how much cooling a particular CPU needs. It is quoted as a maximum figure...
by lodestar
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

To be frank I was much more interested in the all black Chromax coolers displayed on the front left. I see later in the video that they even have all black fittings. So Noctua plan to charge a premium price for the new NH-U12S with two NF-A12x25 fans in their traditional color scheme. And if instead...
by lodestar
Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Need Cpu cooler
Replies: 2
Views: 3421

Re: Need Cpu cooler

Of those two, the Cooler Master Hyper T4 looks to be the best choice - a 153mm high tower with four direct contact heat pipes and a 120mm PWM fan.
by lodestar
Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: noktua nh-d15s vs nh-u14s
Replies: 39
Views: 15353

Re: noktua nh-d15s vs nh-u14s

Whether any particular motherboard will have a PCI-E slot blocking issue with the NH-U14S is easy to check on the Noctua website. It is of course better to check for compatibility before buying a motherboard rather than after...
by lodestar
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: Quiet Prebuilt, SFF and Barebones Systems
Topic: suggestions for prebuilt desktop
Replies: 23
Views: 16182

Re: suggestions for prebuilt desktop

i wonder how can you tell if it's ver. 2 when buying. The part numbers are different. But the easiest way to tell is that if the Corsair logo and the word 'CORSAIR' on the side of the unit are on one line it is a ver. 1. If the Corsair logo is above the word 'CORSAIR' it is a ver. 2. This for examp...
by lodestar
Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:19 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 15099

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

...ExtSens1, 2, and 3... Yes these are on the Asus Fan Extension Card which has an additional three thermal sensors (and as part of the kit provides three thermal sensor cables). The Asus Fan Extension Card seems to be a bit elusive in the UK, I have never yet found a boxed complete set on retail s...
by lodestar
Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:44 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

The original Kotetsu did have an earlier version of the improved mounting in the latest Scythe coolers. If you swapped out the GlideStream sleeve bearing fan that comes with it I doubt if you would see any significant difference in performance between the original and the Mark II Kotetsu.
by lodestar
Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:39 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

If I were looking for an alternative to the Noctua cooler number one on my list would be the Scythe Mugen 5. In part because the newer Scythes have an excellent mounting system, arguably as good as Thermalright. A lot depends on prices in your particular location. In the UK the Mugen 5 and Thermalri...
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w
Replies: 26
Views: 15384

Re: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w

Yes, that's right.
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:10 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w
Replies: 26
Views: 15384

Re: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w

It is dependant on the load.
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 15099

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

What I see on that page under Cooling->multi temp sources is this "...Each header can be set to monitor and react to three user-configurable thermal sensors..." which would be CPU, motherboard and the optional T_SENSOR thermistor cable.
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:48 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

A potential issue with the A12x25 is the corner design. It is maybe best described as semi-closed which might cause issues with coolers that use clips that fix to the back of the fan. However since the True Spirit 120 Direct uses a front mounting I don't see any problems.
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w
Replies: 26
Views: 15384

Re: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w

Yes, more CPU cooling will mean more higher fan speeds which will mean more noise. But there are ways to keep the noise down. For example replacing the stock Intel cooler with a third-party cooler like the Noctua NH-U12S. And if your case has case fans plugging them into the motherboard and letting ...
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w
Replies: 26
Views: 15384

Re: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w

From a quietness point of view you can always trade higher CPU temperatures for less CPU cooler fan (and case fan) noise. The main issue is that you need to ensure that the CPU remains below the throttling point. This should not be difficult given the current level of BIOS and software fan control a...
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w
Replies: 26
Views: 15384

Re: Intel® Core™ i5-8600 65w vs. 95 w

TDP is Thermal Design Power, so 65w, 95w etc are thermal watts, that is measures of heat not electrical watts. For Intel processors the intended use of TDP is to give a relative indication of how much cooling is required in normal usage. TDP has nothing to do with how much power a CPU uses. The limi...
by lodestar
Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:32 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone
Replies: 95
Views: 60467

Re: New noctua 120mm PWM fan, NF-A12x25 the GT Clone

There is a fairly comprehensive review here (in Japanese) . In short, these two graphs show the story. The first graph seems to bear out the conclusion that the NF-A12x25 is quieter at equivalent speeds than the NF-F12. But there seems to be no significant difference between the two at 800 rpm or le...
by lodestar
Thu May 31, 2018 6:20 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: ask for a recommendation to a MOBO
Replies: 5
Views: 4115

Re: ask for a recommendation to a MOBO

Based on this review of the audio quality of 17 Z370 motherboards the Asus ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming might fill the bill. It features 802.11ac Wi-Fi and all the usual features you would expect from a board of this specification. The main issue with an alternative such as the Asus TUF H370-Pro Gaming ...