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by fwki
Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:21 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Q9450 initial setup and VID
Replies: 16
Views: 8683

I'm thinking the 6x VID from SpeedStep is 1.15, so you are also better off with manual undervolting across all multipliers. Tonight I plan to install RMClock v2.35 which has Wolfdale/Yorkfield support. I couldn't set a P-state pair below 6x / 1.15v with version 2.30.
by fwki
Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:00 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Any troubles with this one? (micro-ATX for video editing)
Replies: 9
Views: 2412

Cistron wrote:The Phenom would fry it in less than a second, though. Not advisable using any 90W+ TDP processors on the 780G.
Good catch, see this: viewtopic.php?t=47470&highlight=anandtech
by fwki
Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:41 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Steam account - many problems normal ?
Replies: 7
Views: 1965

I personally prefer Steam over discs primarily due to portability and protection. In my houshold with 3 gamers, discs get torn up. With Steam we now install a game on all computers and play on any one (at a time, of course) and there's no disc to protect. Also the kids can login to the Steam account...
by fwki
Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:19 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Any troubles with this one? (micro-ATX for video editing)
Replies: 9
Views: 2412

Your MB kicked butt in low power consumption in this review http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... i=3288&p=1.
by fwki
Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:19 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: 45nm Intel Wolfdale-Yorkfield and real power consumption
Replies: 16
Views: 6161

Does this mean that if I take a 65W processor like an E8400 and clock it at half its rated speed and also undervolt it I can expect mobile-like power usage? Right now I am kicking myself for spending way too much on my home server mobile-on-desktop setup (see sig). I think these new 45nm will kill ...
by fwki
Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:00 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: 45nm Intel Wolfdale-Yorkfield and real power consumption
Replies: 16
Views: 6161

What clock speed are you running it at? Stock speed for the Q9450 is 2.66GHz (8x333) and under Prime95 it's pegged at 8x and 115 watts. At idle it drops to 6x333 and the idle system power drops to 77 watts with 0.99375 VID. When manually set, voltage stays at 0.99375 VID under all multipliers. The ...
by fwki
Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:39 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: 45nm Intel Wolfdale-Yorkfield and real power consumption
Replies: 16
Views: 6161

Voltage is the key, not only for OC'd power use but at stock speeds as well. I found the Q9450 to be a tremendous undervolter. At Prime95 4-core load with 1.225 VID, my system pulls 153 watts and with 0.99375 VID, it pulls 115 watts, both stable. That's a 38 watt drop from the cpu alone.
by fwki
Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:49 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Is Gigabyte EP35-ds3 the way to go?
Replies: 7
Views: 5960

How many fans/fan headers/fan sensors on that board can be read by a utility like Hmonitor or Speedfan? Funny you should ask because right now I am trying to figure how to get Speedfan to make sense. It's monitoring two fans but giving me crazy speeds in the hundreds of thousands rpm. The MB has 2 ...
by fwki
Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:48 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: X3350 (Q9450) first impressions
Replies: 15
Views: 9584

With the Q9450 Coretemp uses 105 as Tjunction while Realtemp uses 95, so Coretemp reports 10C higher temps. There seems to be a consensus forming that Realtemp and 95C are correct and that's what I think based on waking up the system from C3 (edit: S3) and quickly checking idle temp. If Tj is 95C th...
by fwki
Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:55 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: What's the ideal mobo and CPU for WHS
Replies: 41
Views: 12701

The OP's questions on cpu and MB are dependent on WHS usage, especially wrt the handling of media files by both server and client. From what I understand, if you are serving media files to a PC, you dont need much WHS horsepower because the client PC can handle the on-the-fly-transcoding. If you are...
by fwki
Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:29 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: What's the ideal mobo and CPU for WHS
Replies: 41
Views: 12701

Undervolting an E2000 for WHS is a good idea, and I just found out how good the Gigabyte P35 boards are at undervolting with a DS3L and a Q9450 at less than 1.0v VID. At $90 for the DS3L (rev2) and an inexpensive cpu, you can build a WHS machine on the cheap and put cash into hdd capacity. A couple ...
by fwki
Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:41 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: What's the ideal mobo and CPU for WHS
Replies: 41
Views: 12701

If the kontron supports EIST speed step, then you really don't need to undervolt. The T5500 in my WHS machine spends most of it life at 6x and 0.95v (the lowest "stock" speed step setting). For WHS you'll want a 64-bit capable cpu for compatibility with WHS upgrade plans. I believe the cheapest mobi...
by fwki
Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:43 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Pleasantly suprised by Q9300
Replies: 7
Views: 2641

jerryk,
Can you post the cpu voltage in BIOS or with cpu-z? I'm curious about the Q9300 stock settings.
by fwki
Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:53 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Q9450 initial setup and VID
Replies: 16
Views: 8683

I confirmed that both SpeedStep and RMClock can only change the multiplier once voltage is set manually in BIOS on the DS3L. And since my lowest stable voltage is lower than the SpeedStep voltage at all multipliers (6x 7x and 8x), that's a good thing.
by fwki
Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:35 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Undervolting: how low can you go?
Replies: 234
Views: 217452

I was surprised myself, especially since the Q9450 defaulted to 1.2375v or thereabouts out of the box. Here's my setup experience: viewtopic.php?t=47335&highlight=
by fwki
Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:28 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: X3350 (Q9450) first impressions
Replies: 15
Views: 9584

According to the bios settings the default Vcore voltage is 1.225 Volt which seems rather high, maybe I got a bad sample? My Q9450 defaulted to a high VID, and I thought the same. However it undervolts big time: Prime95 stable at 0.99375 VID (0.960 Vcore idle, 0.944 Vcore load). So don't worry too ...
by fwki
Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:57 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: What's the ideal mobo and CPU for WHS
Replies: 41
Views: 12701

Re: What's the ideal mobo and CPU for WHS

what is the lowest power CPU to put in such a system? Should I underclock? Does an E2160 or E4500 make sense - what is the power consumption for these CPUs? If not that then what? Does an E8200 make more sense - the processor speed is overkill but will the lower power consumption help? I am running...
by fwki
Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:52 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: What's the ideal mobo and CPU for WHS
Replies: 41
Views: 12701

A single multi-drive RAID array which contains both the WHS system and client data files is not affected because it looks like a single drive to WHS. Data on multiple individual drives are only affected by client applications that attempt to write to a file on the server that is concurrently being w...
by fwki
Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:57 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Undervolting: how low can you go?
Replies: 234
Views: 217452

Q9450 Yorkfield 2.66GHz (333x8)

Prime95 stable for 11-1/2 hours at 0.99375 VID (0.960 Vcore idle, 0.944 Vcore load)
by fwki
Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:55 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Thermal Throttling as a way to control CPU speed
Replies: 4
Views: 2033

Try RMClock for software throttling. It achieves both multiplier and VID adjustments based on demand amongst several other controls.
by fwki
Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:04 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Components for a quiet DAW
Replies: 7
Views: 1962

The Q9450 undervolting thread: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47335&highlight= . jaganath wrote "I would say the reduction in power consumption would be more than 20%, as power consumed scales quadratically with supply voltage. also, power in = heat out, so 20% less power = 20%...
by fwki
Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:24 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Q9450 initial setup and VID
Replies: 16
Views: 8683

The system was Prime95 stable for 11 1/2 hours today at 0.99375 VID (0.960 Vcore idle, 0.944 Vcore load), so I'll call that the basement. I didn't have time tonight to run a full suite of VID's with the killawatt, but I did take the end points: 1.225 VID pulls 87 watts idle and 153 watts load and 0....
by fwki
Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:30 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Q9450 initial setup and VID
Replies: 16
Views: 8683

I have not calibrated Realtemp...but that doesnt effect load temps..and I'm looking at delta from Tjunction anyway. I have a killawatt meter...will check power draw across a range of VID tonight and post results.
by fwki
Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:18 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Q9450 initial setup and VID
Replies: 16
Views: 8683

It ran Prime95 stable for 2 hours at VID 1.000 and I ended the test to approach the limit from the other direction. With VID set to 0.975 Core3 generated a P95 error after 2 minutes. Reset VID to 0.98125 (0.928 Vcore load) and Core1 generated a P95 error after 20 minutes. Reset VID to 0.9875 (0.944 ...
by fwki
Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:56 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Q9450 initial setup and VID
Replies: 16
Views: 8683

Today 12 3/4 hours at 1.05 VID no errors. On my third step down from there I am currently Prime95 testing at 1.000 VID 0.960 Vcore idle (6x) and 0.944 load (8x). Prior 2 steps tested 30min Prime95. Load temps now settling at 53C to Tj.

edit 0.994 to 0.944
by fwki
Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:55 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Q9450 initial setup and VID
Replies: 16
Views: 8683

Q9450 initial setup and VID

Q9450, GA-P35-DS3L (BIOS 8b), 2x2GB DDR2-800, 2P7K500, XFX 8600GT, S12 550 Energy+, Accelero S1 passive, Ninja RevB TR bolt-thru passive, 2x120mm D12SM-12 case fans, Lian Li A05B, WinXP MCE. After update to the latest BIOS, it auto-detected the Q9450 "normal" VID to be 1.2375v, which seemed high. Th...
by fwki
Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:47 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Is Gigabyte EP35-ds3 the way to go?
Replies: 7
Views: 5960

I concur with Das about Asus' slippage and now I am on to Gigabyte. Asus burned me with the N4L-VM and customer support is so bad that flame artists use their forums for practice. This weekend I completed a Q9450 build with the Gigabyte DS3L Rev2...successful POST first try, flashed BIOS from USB no...
by fwki
Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:23 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Looking for PSU: High Efficiency at Low Power with EPS12V
Replies: 5
Views: 1796

As a follow-up to using 4-pin power connector on the Tyan S3095, I have had full stability using the FSP ZEN 300 fanless psu. Tyan online tech support's response to the issue was as follows: "We do not recommend it. It usually works though. If it posts it will be as stable as an 8-pin, if it doesnt ...
by fwki
Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:13 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: OEM Q9450 In Stock at Tankguys
Replies: 3
Views: 2039

Can you provide a link? Here's one oos.......... http://www.lagoom.com/Intel_BX80569X335 ... 80363.html