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by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:21 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

No I never said that the SSD shouldn't exist. I am saying that you shouldn't be using it as your OS drive. You should be using it as a cache drive. That is what it is really meant for. There is a history of caches everywhere. Your CPU has caches that would function in exactly the same way as an SSD...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:35 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

So you are saying that basically some SSDs do produce enough sound to be audible, but most (if they do produce this level of sound) end up in the inaudible range? But my question is: is this volume loud enough to be audible had it been in a lower frequency range? Is this typical of SSDs to have that...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:06 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: The case against SSDs
Replies: 8
Views: 6335

Re: The case against SSDs

Yes that is true. Although I don't know if it is true for all raid controllers, I hope it is. I still wonder what the actual factual benefits of RAID 10 are in speed. I know when I tested my random reads and writes went up greatly. A RAID 10 is supposed to spread reads over the 2 stripe-sets. Each s...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:58 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

If you value big space over responsiveness, get a HDD. But I don't think that HDD would be that much greater if the SSD never existed. No I never said that the SSD shouldn't exist. I am saying that you shouldn't be using it as your OS drive. You should be using it as a cache drive. That is what it ...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:27 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

But it's the same thing with HDD space. We used to have small efficient things but with almost unlimited storage came a lot of bloat. That sacrifice you mention is universal, hard to escape it. A Linux system still installs on 5GB of space if you are really strict. The only real bloat I see is 1080...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:53 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

If we forget about SSDs and HDDs for a moment and instead look at the tech behind them. Surely you can agree that solid state has some appeal over the mechanical movements of parts? No matter how much you develop the latter it could never beat the responsiveness of the former. If responsiveness is ...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:41 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

Those answers mean: they might, they might not or they might even make infrasonic sounds. Depends on the components used. No guarantees. That's the same as giving no answer at all. "Will it be warm tomorrow?" "It might, it might not. It might be shady, it might be cool. It might be cloudy, it might...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:37 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

I was using for a few years one 128GB 840 pro just for the os. I saw this 850 evo at 100 euros and i got it not becuase i was not content with 128, but mostly because of the price. And i thought i could move a few games to the non-os partition. Right. Well that's reasonable (and acceptable as an ar...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:11 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

Just laziness really. "Why don't you do it well?" "It's not needed, your SSD will handle it". I can live with that. The time someone would "waste" on optimizations for hdds could be spent on other features etc. Just because a ssd costs peanuts today. I remember late 2012, when i got a 60GB vertex3 ...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:00 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

I was actually dual booting two OS on that 16GB SSD, so I can keep it small. :) I'm also a huge fan of RAM disks. They are even faster than SSDs don't you know. Sure you can. I was saying now you have to. It is a sacrifice you make for getting something else. I would not much like that (I have done...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:52 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

[responding to the last guy still, not you]. So this is why I feel there is no excuse for using SSDs because you are ruining the ecosystem for an irrelevant speed boost that soon (as it already happened) will no longer be irrelevent due to your own choices as you have made your bank run and now the ...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:28 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

Just saying. If you ever now suggest in Linux that application load times are slow, all of them are just going to say " Just use a fucking SSD ". Meaning, all objections and criticisms of any application loading slow are now void . Some software reads the disk 20 times for no reason while clearing t...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:22 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

Almost every piece of electonics is prone to that. Switching frequencies in digital motherboard VRMs is several hundreds of kHz. Some power supplies and converters, couple of tens of kHz. Basically you shouldn't be using any electronic devices if that's an issue :) That just treats everything as eq...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:20 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

I think they are great. I was an early adopter and got a very expensive 16GB Mobi SSD early on. I never regretted that purchase. Before that I was very much hunting for the optimal OS HDD. Short stroking, the 10K RPM Raptor, trying to shave down the microseconds in seek time that made such a huge d...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:17 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

Also it gives rise to the general obnoxiousness people have in the tech internet: Why don't you just use an SSD? Why don't you just use an SSHD instead of getting a separate SSD? If anyone starts doing that they feel bad about their choice and now want you to do the same so they won't feel bad about...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:36 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

It's just one of these many things that I think in general makes things worse instead of better ;-). I have never met a single person who did not become extremely defensive when I mentioned anything bad about SSDs. They all start attacking you. That should clarify how downtrodden stupid the attitude...
by xen
Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:19 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Re: Ultrasonic SSD?

Well the question was more whether that would be systemic as that has always been my impression that that would be the case and ..... actually it has been one of the reasons I have stayed away from the 2.5" and 1.8" SSDs (I have less issues with smaller sizes). A fellow weird person once told me tha...
by xen
Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:51 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: The case against SSDs
Replies: 8
Views: 6335

Re: The case against SSDs

In short unless someone can better inform me about the current status quo, I will conclude that: Using SSDs as a System Only DISK is a flawed model Using it as a cache is easy but limited with ReadyBoost (on Windows) and Intel supports it (using motherboard Raid) but AMD is apparently lacking any su...
by xen
Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:13 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: The case against SSDs
Replies: 8
Views: 6335

The case against SSDs

I just want to give a quick rundown of all the various reasons you can have not to want to use SSDs as separate "OS" disks. Whatever you say, the price per GB is still much higher, mandating any serious system to now have a mandatory minimum of two disks: one SSD for the OS, and one HDD for the data...
by xen
Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:49 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Ultrasonic SSD?
Replies: 56
Views: 14638

Ultrasonic SSD?

Can anyone comment on whether there could potentially ever be any issues with ultrasound coming from SSDs? Has anyone ever measured ultrasound (particularly perhaps in the range of 20.000 Hz +, or even 30K+.?. The sort of sound that would perhaps not travel further than a meter or 2 before dying out.
by xen
Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:07 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Samsung ST1000LM024 noisy
Replies: 0
Views: 8000

Samsung ST1000LM024 noisy

So I wrote this topic here but since no one responded for like 2 weeks I am just going to delete it. I will just say that the ST1000LM024 are just very noisy with reading and writing (I think both, but definitely with writing) and they are louder by far than the ST500LM012, at least to my perception...
by xen
Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:49 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: i still use windows xp on the desktop
Replies: 30
Views: 18075

Re: i still use windows xp on the desktop

I can't disagree. Windows 7 networking is horrible to begin with. Windows 8 and 10 split it into their new interface but really, you still need the old stuff from Windows 7. Windows 8 is an experiment and not a very useful one from my perspective. The tile interface is horrid to begin with. I'm not ...
by xen
Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:14 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: i still use windows xp on the desktop
Replies: 30
Views: 18075

Re: i still use windows xp on the desktop

I never even had a single virus during all of the years of 95, 98, XP and beyond, except recently when I really wanted to sandbox something but I couldn't, and it installed a bunch of crap, but not really any virus. Having a virus or not is mostly a result of what applications you run, this is a cho...
by xen
Thu May 05, 2016 4:08 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: i still use windows xp on the desktop
Replies: 30
Views: 18075

Re: i still use windows xp on the desktop

I still need to find out if my older soundcard will work. It was even hard to find Windows 8 drivers, as it is a product without a website these days.

It is possible though that the Windows 8 driver will just work.
by xen
Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:00 pm
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: I purchased a R9 380
Replies: 8
Views: 3838

Re: I purchased a R9 380

im not sure why you are offended. that was never my intent. just trying to help people build silent pc's. for some, understanding how heatpipes and heatsinks operate, helps them along the path to silence. sorry bud. I never mentioned that I thought the heatpipe should be cold. It was just an observ...
by xen
Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:18 am
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: I purchased a R9 380
Replies: 8
Views: 3838

Re: I purchased a R9 380

You have nothing better to do right? Going across the internet, nipping misconceptions in the bud, saving the world.

Mod: Please post when you have something to contribute, but not when you don't.
by xen
Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:19 am
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: I purchased a R9 380
Replies: 8
Views: 3838

Re: I purchased a R9 380

I was wondering if someone was going to post a negative response. I guess I was right.
by xen
Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:13 pm
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: I purchased a R9 380
Replies: 8
Views: 3838

I purchased a R9 380

It's been a little bit weird, due to an affliction I have I cannot always consistently keep up doing what I like, in the sense of sticking to a thing and bringing it to completion. As a result of this I made a choice that I later regretted in ordering a PSU + GPU, after which I changed the order, af...
by xen
Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:49 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Corsair RMx series PSUs: quiet operation but without Link
Replies: 14
Views: 8644

Re: Corsair RMx series PSUs: quiet operation but without Lin

Just FYI (and for those who'll come): I asked, and if I didn't misunderstood, the "fixed percentage" setting in the Corsair Link only sets a minimum RPM (so, whether the fan controller feels the need to run the fan faster, then it will do). The minimum allowed duty cycle for the end user should be ...
by xen
Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:37 pm
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: Can you recommend me a 950
Replies: 13
Views: 6298

Re: Can you recommend me a 950

:). I sent back my 950, but still can't decide on a 960 because I prefer one with 2x DVI and my wishes etc....

;-). Trying to get a MSI or Gainward at this point. I know they are both more noisy, but I like to get something special as well.