The GFX card will be an MSI 1060. So, maybe I won't need a side panel fan, but the article said it was good for cooling the chipset as well.

I think I will at least try the two rear exhaust configuration. Would two 120mm be better?

So it seems, in general, it's a little more effective to pump the heat out of a case than to draw cool air in. And also that article found that having a side panel fan can be very beneficial. I will first try putting one 140mm at the front, mounting a 140mm on the side panel, and putting a 120mm rea...

Ok, what about two 140 mm fans running slower than two 120 mm fans? I guess my questions all boil down to, what is the best configuration of front intake fans for the best balance of airflow and quietness? I have a Fractal R5. I'm still not sure whether to go with one or two fans in the front, or wh...

By stronger, do you mean more RPMs or larger size, or both?

For "spreading the work load" do Intel and AMD do anything different?

Do AMD and Intel utilize their cores differently? Not really. The load distribution should be the same. But there are supposedly software that don't work as well with one as the other. The main difference between AMD's Zen and Intel's Core architectures lie in the communication between the cores, a...

Do AMD and Intel utilize their cores differently?

Not sure I follow: if the filter is so air resistive, then making the whole case out of the same resistive material would make the whole case just as resistive, no?

So it sounds like most current systems on average, would use around 80-110 watts just idling. ... Idle system use is less than half of that, typically 25-30W, unless you overclock manually. Well, this test on the 2700X showed 68W at idle at stock. https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cpus/amd-2nd-...

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The site seems smooth and fast and back to normal.

Thanks.

So when looking at specs, do I add up all the 12 V rails?

For my Seasonic 550W that would be: 540W + 3.6 W = 543.6 W. Is this correct? How do I know which 12 V rail is for the CPU, GPU, etc.?

Abula, I'm really curious, have you tried using only the vent/mesh part on top of the Fractal Define R6 case?

Do you happen to notice if it's louder without the sound damping roof part?

Awesome, thanks Abula.

Would love to also see a 140mm fan round-up from you sometime.

Interesting. But you wouldn't necessarily need to make the whole PC case out of HVAC filters. Why not just place HVAC filters where the case openings are?

Well, at least they've got the weight down to about 48 lbs now.

Thanks faustus, edh, Olle P, and Abula. So it sounds like most current systems on average, would use around 80-110 watts just idling. Then when the CPU and/or GPU are loaded, this will add whatever those components are rated at (or have been reviewed at). I'm assuming the CPU and GPU would almost ne...

The Venturi fans from Fractal Design are supposed to be even better than the GP ones. The Venturi are divided into the HP (High Pressure) and HF (High Flow) series. Both come in 120mm and 140mm sizes. The HP series are 4-pin PWM fans, whereas the HF are 3-pin. They have received generally positive r...

So the noise of two fans would not be a simple linear doubling of a single fan, then? Great, that's good to know. Thanks.

I was just wondering: is it better (i.e. quieter) to have one 140mm front intake case fan running at a higher rpm, or two 120mm fans running at lower rpm? (everything else being equal). I'm assuming two 120mm fans would create more airflow, but not sure if the acoustics would be simply double the db...

Some early specs and price points from Anandtech: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13249/nv ... -2080-2070

Hoping to see some lower TDPs in this new series.

MSI, Asus, and Zotec, would be the third parties to watch for quiet versions.

Yeah, I guess it depends on how the window panel is designed and attached. Also, whether it's a full glass panel or just a half window. And I think Be Quiet has a TG side panel on their 900 case that has foam/rubber around the edge.

So many cases have come out in the last year or two with tempered glass side panels. Even Fractal has jumped on the bandwagon. Just wondering, given the evolution of quieter individual components over the past decade, have we reached the stage yet where tempered glass panels can be used without affe...

Reviews: JonnyGuru rated the Seasonic 600W Titanium fanless higher than the 650W Prime Ultra Titanium fanned model. Dead silent. Very efficient (stayed above 92% at full load [and overload], was a bit below 90% at idle or very low load). Doesn't get too warm. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?nam...

Are those online PSU wattage calculators reliable? They keep telling me my wattage use would be around 450W. I recently bought a 550W (Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold) but I'm not sure how much headroom to give my planned system. It will be a Ryzen 2700 X with a GTX 1060 (possible upgrade to a 1080 later)...

If people are buying a PSU not for their normal usage but for their peak usage, then they are not "buying PSU's far bigger than they need for no practical reason". They still need a PSU that will deliver power for their peak usage.

Thanks. I see what you mean. However, people don't buy a PSU for normal usage, they buy a PSU to accommodate their estimated heaviest workload needs, so that they have enough headroom for those few times when they do use a lot more power. I could see how using a much higher capacity PSU might draw m...

I suppose compared to a 650W PSU, it would run a bit warmer with the fan coming on more often. Not necessarily. The efficiency dropoff at max load is small so the extra heat output (even if you were running at 500W+) would be only a Watt or two. With higher rated PSU's they will often up the fan ra...

From reviews I've read so far, the 2700 X maxes out at around 220W It's a 105W TDP processor. So, either the reviews are talking about total system power or they've got an insane overclock/overvolt going on. Bit-tech has these graphs labeled in reverse, but you're right, it's total system power. My...

From reviews I've read so far, the 2700 X maxes out at around 220W The MSI GTX 1060 maxes out at 135W RAM about 5W PCIe NVMe SSDs about 10W Fans would be 10W MoBo ? total ~ 380W - 400W I read somewhere that you should also leave about 20% wattage for headroom. So that would be 550W - 20% (=110W) = 4...

This is my proposed rig I am planning: Ryzen 7 2700 X MSI GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 16 GB RAM 4 fans (including cooler fan) optical drive possible 2 PCIe NVMe SSDs AsRock X470 mobo I put the components through a PSU calculator and it recommended a 650W PSU. However, I had already recently bought a...