better (read: necessary) to have a 80mm Fan around it somewhere Probably. From CPUs ranked by noise (in http://www.silentpcreview.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=31&page=1) "Early P2 with less efficient core difficult to cool quietly, as power dissipation i...

Umh, first hand-on review in this MacWorld article, and ... One thing that did surprise me about the Mac mini was the noise level, both good and bad. Most of the time the machine is very quiet, basically silent; I expected more regular fan noise given the cramped quarters inside the box. On the othe...

As we're on silentpcreview, I think I'll point out that a P4 in this box will peak at 85W (around) while the G4 will be at 25W. It's also priced at 514 CHF here (no cpu/ram/...), while the mini mac is 699 CHF ...

This one is much better OTOH.

First mini mac porn : http://www.macnews.de/gallery/displayim ... =16&pos=18. ].

but no hint on the fan, CPU is MPC7447

There's also a video here, but I can't view it here (@work).

Hazelrah wrote: EDIT: I looked it up and 350 Euro is like $450 in US dollars. That's pretty insane, considering Pentium M CPUs don't come cheap either!

Nah, it's the dollar-euro rate which is insane

The zalmann is overkill for this poor little CPU. Almost any stock heatsink without the fan should be ok, given few airflow. I build such PC for my father, and it's enough for email, web, word & chess, altough a little bit slow to start programs. I tried one mpeg movie and it worked, but it was smal...

Have you ever seen a Dell, Compaq or other "big brand" computer that came standard with a Seagate Barracuda IV or Samsung Spinpoint? Yep, at least 1 HP, 1 IBM & 1 Transtec (ok, no that "big"), but I don't open "brand" PC that much. The HP had in fact one of the single platter 'cuda IV, with a ducte...

Keep in mind that apple designs are usually done with a specific user profile in mind. They're not generalists. If you do a general comparison, they'll fail. If you do a focused study, they shine. Now, if only they would focus on SPCR users ... If you get into how Apple does business,... well, ther...

spec , from what I found, max power used should be below 25.6W. Not such a challenge to silently cool. It is also nice to note that this CPU has lot of powersaving features as well. probably not a challenge to cool in a big enough case with a big enough heat sink and a big, slow fan moving air accr...

I would like to see a Shuttle MacMini killer with a PM. Why? Because they can, and the PM is so much faster. A PM Zen could have this size with a mini-ITX mobo (already exists) and laptop drives. The 1.25 GHz G4 is what? 3 years old? :lol: PM is like two years old, but have got improvements and new...

Noise > yep, but if the power supply is external, I don't think it'll be such a problem to cool a 1.25 GHz G4, which should dissipate around 30W (? can't find the spec, just found that ). Especially if they make use of the enclosure itself. Tay > They also planned a page for all the accessories that...

IMHO, it's a perfect move from a commercial point of view in general. For my personnal use, I was wondering wether to buy one or not, because I've got already plenty of computers (and my family as well). But given the current weak dollar, it may be even more affordable now (it's worth about 110 big ...

Finaly, it looks like the European version will be the EY855, for 350€ (average street price).

Tom's Hardware ".de" made a review available here.

Another thing I just noticed... do you have to open the front door to hit the power and reset buttons? Yes you have to open the door to use reset and power button. Hardly a problem imo... Wastes a fraction of a second of your life every time you have to use the buttons, oh my :lol: Don't forget tha...

For the record, BTX is around the corner since 2003.

Not everything intel wants become reality (cf. itanium)

For the PSU, it looks like it'll be an idea to just take a normal fanned PSU and remove the fan ... or make big holes into a phantom Just about any kind of PSU could be used. There is about an inch (maybe less) of space all around the PSU, so regardless of where the PSU fans are located, if they ar...

:arrow: First, many thanks to AntecRep (whoever (s)he is or they are) for sharing information, sending samples to SPCR and especially coming to the forum from time to time and listening to us. Now, if you would just pay Bluefront to work for you ;) More ontopic, I have the impression they put the 2 ...

That's a Pentium III-S 1.266, with 2x256 MB Ram, Samsung HDD, Hauppauge PVR-350, Wi-Fi PCI card, memory card reader (no graphic card, no optical drive), pic here in an Aria case. The DC-DC board is attached with plastic strips over the CPU (you can see the capacitors). I consumes up to 79W AC when r...

Prahella wrote:What kind of brick PSU kit did you got? And where did you buy that?

I took the 110W PSU Set from LinITX.com (a uk-based shop), which is in fact a 125W AC.

Other advantage of PSU with external brick is the size of what goes inside the box. That's what I have in my HTPC and am very happy with it

The brick is also the only part to heat, the DC-DC circuit doesn't (significantly).

orionlion82 wrote:a one handed electrician is a living electrician

ditto. Always keep your (left) hand in your pocket, don't forgot also to avoid having somebody going around you and wear (isolating) shoes

Well, actually, I found that via epiacenter.com and the only european reseller I know, mini-itx.de says King Young S625F, Barebone, Sockel 479 für Pentium M und Celeron M CPU bis 1.5 GHz, passiv gekühlt und damit sehr leise , 155x255x55 mm, 1 Sockel für DDR 333/266 Speciher mit 0.8' (20mm) Bauhöhe, ...

I guess you both heard of i8kfan ? The same guy also made a speed controller. Both works quite well with all Dell laptops. It seems to support graphic cards control as well, but I can't tell as mine is integrated (D400). You can easily shut down completely all the fans during desktop activities (tha...

It seems that now everybody's making its i855 product for pentium M and celeron M, this ones in particular seems interesting : SUMICOM S625 . It's a really small barebone, slightly bigger than a CD drive, heatpipe system (no fan needed), external 12V PSU, supports 2.5"HDD and slim optical drive, no ...

Ok, so we know that initial connections to this site are usually triggered when the noise made by a PC exceed some threshold. In my case, this was a awful 40mm fan on an ATI card. After begun the quest for silence and its vicious cycle. Then, for me it stopped ... my PC are quiet enough. So I'm just...

For the VA/... So does 66VA*PF (powerfactor, right?) mean that using a deacent (for a passive PFC-unit) that wattage draw is below 50? Well, normally the 'optimal' powerfactor is 1. From what I know, Active PFC PSU are around 0.95, and passive PFC between 0.8 and 0.9. It's strange that your kill-a-...

Hey, remember that SPCR is the only (?) site where there are scientific sound-oriented reviews ;) Well, I just checked, they used a Extech 407727 meter, which according to the specs has an accuracy of 2 dB @ 94 dB, with a range from 40 to 130 dB. I think, it's hard to conclude something from this te...

Slashdot feature a review of the Seagate Savvio, a really atypical hard-disk : 10k rpm, 2.5", quiet (supposedly), SCSI SCA-80 ... This isn't a silence-orirented review, but that's the first one I know about this "different" drive. Direct link to the page about noise . This HDD was already discussed ...

Street price here is about 25 CHF or 16€

If MikeC doesn't have one yet, I could even afford to buy one and send it to him for a review

Just a comment about "but warm air rises". I have difficulties remembering my lectures at school, but if I'm not that wrong, when you're using forced convection (read a fan), the natural convection effect is negligible. Of course, YMMV, especially with very low airflow setup, but this really sounds ...