This will be the last post that I quote the legitreviews forums (he's just full of fun information): I just got off the phone with ASUS-USA (yes, they are closed for good Friday, but for some reason they are talking to Legit Reviews today due to the article we posted) Next on the list is the ever po...

@#@$ overclockers. Legit reviews shows only the multipliers they can set with the EIST tool. Why don't they tell us what voltages are availlable Tibors, he answers that in this thread: http://forums.legitreviews.com/viewtopic.php?t=1570&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 ___________ Let me try to an...

Ha, I did not read the update at Legit Reviews: Cool!! UPDATE: A few hours after posting our article ASUS-USA delivered a Beta BIOS for us to us. They have filled every overclockers dreams with Voltages all the way up to 1.95V. The BIOS also improved graphics performance a ton! We will be updating t...

Regarding the anandtech article, Their benchmarks are good, I disagree with their conclusions. Namely, what I saw was a great desktop computer for the things I use a desktop for: games, general productivity, and the internet. The places that Anandtech said it was "dissappointing" are processes that ...

Here's an interesting article. Not sure if anyone's posted this from www.2cpu.com before. It's one of the first holistic attempts I've seen to sell a quieter workstation/server. So before people blanche at the quoted DBA and fan rpm's, remember the audience this is for are used to far, far worse aco...

Just an idle thought: Moderators, isn't this a duplicate thread? One of you folks was quite "on the ball" closing duplicate threads regarding the Pentium M socket 479 - 478 adapter recently. You may as well close this thread and reference the original thread in the same vein.... That way anyone new ...

The drive is a 2.5" drive to start with, but it's a rather loud Seagate Momentus. I wanted the 100gig capacity, plus the price was right (free!)

Quick question: is the Momentus "rather loud" relative to other 2.5" drives or is that compared to quiet 7200rpm drives?

I have a bias against suspension. Not for any good reason though. For instance, I do not believe suspension is a major issue during transportation. Those bungee type cords can be as secure and taut as you want them to be. If anything jarred them, you'd have bigger issues during transport. So I think...

I want to like this case. But I think it's giving a lot of "almost..." features. If you wanted an expensive fanless HTPC you could look at a Hush ATX. If you wanted a quiet gaming rig, then you have size, price, and a thermal limit to contend with. If you wanted a cool smallish form factor, then it ...

So it's either 2.1 GHz @ 21 W vs. 2.2 GHz @ 25 W, or 2.26 GHz @ 27 W vs. 2.2 GHz @ 25 W. Only one problem: There is no 2ghz or 2.2ghz 25watt Turion. The 25watt line tops out at 1.8ghz: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article224-page6.html --------- In any case, we'll see how they price the 25watt lin...

Sounds good, the only question is:

What will AMD price these at? I'm thinking they'll price them right in line with the P-M. Which isn't too bad, since the desktop board should be cheaper (for now) than a P-M desktop board.

Oops found some earlier info from a previous SPCR article: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article207-page1.html PERFORMANCE Generally, most quiet drive users report negligible — if any — real practical difference in perceived desktop system performance between a fast 7200 rpm drive and a slower, quie...

Great, if you have time, can you also compare performance to a relatively stock 3.5" 7200 8mb drive? It would be interesting to see current performance differences so people know what they lose (or do not lose) if they switch to a 2.5" 5400rpm drive on their desktop for the sake of silence. I keep h...

We, as individuals, don't have to want to silently cool a 6xx Prescott. We, as members of SPCR, should learn how to do so though.

Well said!

Ha Ha, I don't know if anyone (me included) has been able to stay 100% on topic... then again, what WAS the topic? Was it: 1) "Does anyone want to even try to silently cool the 600 series Prescotts?" or was it 2) "Is there a reason to buy a desktop Dothan setup for 2x the price of an A64 setup?" My ...

BitterJitter, Yes I know that. As I alluded, a whole host of things would have to go wrong for something bad to happen. On the flip side, I have seen cpus and psus "blow up" due to a failed temp sensor. The chances of that leading to a "series of unfortunate events" may be small but you never know. ...

With high quality fans like the Nexus 120mm I see no benifit of a fanless pc over a much cheaper AMD64 system with two 400rpm fans (psu and cpu). I can see one (or two) * Maintenance: No fans = less dust buildup. Less Maintenance = a more legitimate home theatre "appliance" = more Wife friendly. * ...

Like sthayashi said: Dothan appears to have slightly reduced performance compared to A64 alongside with much reduced heat*. This allows us to do things with Dothan that we never would have thought about doing with a PC-class processor before And that, to me is the only reason to think about an Intel...

I think the the fanless nature of this particular model is more 'cause they are using the Ultra-Low Voltage Pentium M models (1.0ghz and 1.1 ghz) that are designed to be run fanless (7 watt TDP). Carbon-fibre's main strength is reduced weight, I've never hear of it being great as a heat dissipator, ...

I'll be sticking to AMD, methinks. For me it's more: I'll stick with single core for at least another year. There's no getting around the fact that dual cores are going to put out significantly more heat than a single core. I don't forsee me doing anything cool with a dual core system anytime soon ...

Oh wonderful. DDR2 for Alviso. We get to spend another couple of hundred bucks for memory after already spending close to $500 for a board and CPU.... Ha Ha. And I don't even need a new micro ATX system. I'm eagerly awaiting to see how it performs, but probably won't be buying until much... later. ...

If I'm not mistaken, the upcoming Alviso chipset for the Pentium M is supposed to have dual-channel ddr2 support (and front-side bus support for the upcoming 533mhz Dothans). I'd expect dual channel to give a big performance boost, so I'm eagerly awaiting the new chipset, supposed to be released Q1 ...

Regarding the Zalman forums. I've been reading posts on their website for about 2 years now and you know why the site seems "weird"? * They are amazingly honest and succinct with their answers. In some ways they are too helpful 'cause they'll give you the target release date and then have to backtra...

I believe by specs you can get both the XP-M or AMD 64-M to comparable levels of power consumption/heat consumption, by fiddling with your motherboard bios. but I'd go with an XP-M for a couple of reasons (I run an HTPC with a Mobile Xp running at 1.2ghz) * Been around longer and has more variety of...

Well I for one am waiting eagerly for this. This and the phantom get serious consideration for my HTPC.

Thanks for the info

Ideally a heatsink should be the same color as the tiles of the NASA space shuttle(dark carbon-type black) to better dissipate power throught IR emissions Uh, sorry, but that doesn't sound quite right to me. Color would make a difference in absorbing/reflecting the type of radiation produced by the...

oops, I completely missed the MBM chart with the fan rpms... kinda funny though, those guys usually run their fans at acceptable silent pc RPMs.

Yeah, that probably does explain his case temps and fanless PSU... he just has a loud case fan.

oh well.

Hmm, now that you mention it, I wonder exactly what is the difference with this particular model vs a standard psu. From the images, it doesn't look to have amazingly different thermal engineering, except for that the fan cage/heatfin thingy that hopefully dumps some heat outside of the case. Hmm, m...

Here's a link from HTPCnews regarding a 0dba PSU. It is basically fanless except when the power load>250watts, at which load 80mm fan kicks in. What caught my eye was I'm a semi-regular HTPCNews reader. Their reviews are: a) pretty good from a silent perspective b) relevant to us because the compone...

great review and thanks for doing it!! The performance with the VGA card exceeded my expectations. Soon, the options for building a silent/quiet computer lend themselves to an "octopus" computer building style. What I mean is the case no longer needs to enclose anything and you can build an octopus ...