Freelancer77, how fast does your seasonic S12-500W PSU fan spin? Mines locked in at 1780... :( I don't have mine connected to anything to tach it with, but it definitely isn't spinning that fast. I'd have to guess under 1200RPM. Then again, I have the 38mm TriCool in there (running on low) because ...

Sure thing. Just to let you know, I ordered before 3pm two days in a row and with priority mail (2-3 days shipping) I got the cheapest shipping, and the fastest. It was here in 2 days from my order date, and it was sent out on the date I ordered. Very fast service if you ask me. I echo that. Perfor...

Amazing review, took me a very long time to read it in depth, and I applaud all you guys for your efforts, thanks so much for producing the "P180 Handbook" as somebody put it earlier. The case looks awesome (I must get my hands on the black SPCR version), but I am only concerned by one thing... and...

MikeC, I want to thank you for your thorough replies to my questions from the 3rd of July. You guys do great work. For the discussion about fans, I should just say that I'm using the three TriCool's as they came, running them all on low, plus a Zalman 80x15mm fan in the VGA duct running at 5v, and a...

Aluminmum shards and dust floating around in an electronics box, while not as risky as steel (much less conductive than steel if they drop on a pair of contacts), is still a bad idea. :wink: Aluminum? The frame of the P180 is steel, so you do want to be careful. Sheesh, there I go, posting while ex...

SPCR's Recommended PSUs may help you here. The S12-380 will be more than enough, it's acoustically identical to the S12-430. And the cables are long enough. You don't need a 500+ Watt PSU for one single core, 90nm AMD CPU, one graphics card (and not even the hottest model), and the rest of a normal...

I would never modify a psu. Too risky and you'll loose your guarantee. Sell it instead, and get a 600w enermax noisetaker SLI. I agree that with your rig, and the power it is demanding, you'll be better off getting a PSU that is quieter to start with. But I'd recommend the Seasonic S12-500 or 600. ...

In my current employment, there is a crew of graphic artists using quite powerful workstations, and they are working with Adobe CS2, 3dsMAX7, FlashPRO, and GLStudio. The graphics card of choice here is the ATi FireGL X1. It's about $100 more than the PNY Quadro FX700, but it's easily worth the diffe...

Could you tell me what kind of file would I need to buy to perform that modification near the lower bay fan? And will the edges in that area be very sharp afterwards? Well, personally I have my hands on some files that are used to blend nicks and edge deformations on jet engine blades. But you can ...

nick705, I owe you an apology. I didn't notice your location at first. I know the term "wanker" carries a stronger sense to it in GB than it does in the States. Trust me, it wasn't aimed at you or anyone else who wants to make things better intelligently. Don't worry about it...I was in a bad mood ...

I think it would be a real pain to take the computer apart and ship the case back... Perhaps yo ucn just take the front door off and send that back? You may even be able to pick up some automotive touch up paint and use that to color in the scratch. I hope you get it sorted out. The front door pane...

Bubbalobill -- I recall asking about the cable lengths at some point. They are actually a bit shorter (IIRC) in the 500 and 600 compared to the lower power S12s. The answer was that for Seasonic to assure proper power delivery up to max power, the cable lengths had to be carefully watched to ensure...

SPCR, Thanks once again. Insane amounts of time and effort went into the combined reviews, and I for one appreciate it immensely. Feel free to take a day off tomorrow. :lol: I have a couple of questions about the performance review. First, was the 74GB Raptor a first edition model, or one of the mor...

The manual should be much clearer about the "VGA Ventilation Duct." The poorly-done manual (what a piece of crap for a $150 item) says nothing about installing the fan. This duct, of course, is made from two halves that can be taken apart. There is and 80x80 indentation in the side of the duct faci...

Yep, I did say they pull good prices, it gets them visible on places like PriceGrabber and PriceWatch. My complain with them isn't price or speed of shipping. Just pray your order from them comes exactly as you wanted it.

If you weren't aware of it, Antec has an employee monitoring these forums. The nick is AntecRep, if you can believe that. Perhaps he'd have half a clue how to deal with your marred case.

DG wrote:Why the hell don't they make some sort of universal clip for all platforms? I'm sure it's not rocket science...

Especially since Thermalright themselves packages some of their HSFs with multiple retention module kits.

While im a huge antec fan, if you really want quiet i'd just go for a seasonic s12. While the 430 watts version doesnt have a pci express power connector, you can always just use an adapter that converts a pair of molexes into one. I was not aware that there was such a converter, that's cool. I had...

www.techonweb.com P180 - $107 FWIW, while Techonweb does manage excellent prices now and then, I've had poor experiences with getting parts from them. First, getting the actual part I ordered, and RMA's are a bear with them. If it's not out of line by the SPCR staff, my two cent's recommendation fo...

I lived a military career in fighter avionics. I always inspect gear as soon as it's in my hands. There were no damaged wires on the fans, nor any other things to complain about with the quality of the parts of the P180 I received. I'm very glad to hear that Antec is replacing your fan with no quest...

Lenny, dude, you snuck in just ahead of me.

Conformance standards for the type of wiring and insulation that power supplies use demands a melting point of greater than 175F degrees. Long before you melt the insulation on your ATX12V line you'll have a much more painful problem, a toasted CPU. Actually, a good PSU would never let it happen, be...

Well, nothing but more good news. This box barely whispers! Noone would call it silent, I suppose, but with four 120mm fans and an 80mm Zalman all running on low speed, I'm extremely impressed. The top TriCool 120 made a bit of noise one time, but one tap ended that. I'll change out the TriCools if ...

I think there was a review somewhere that showed the Sonic Tower, at idle, had a temp of around 67C fanless. In my setup (non-P180) I get about 40C idle, so the Ninja should do better anyway. Despite the many slams on Thermaltake on this forum, and the lake of an SPCR review, I think the design COU...

Mike, On the picture, B is neutral (that doesn't mean ground), A is 120VAC compared to B, C is 120VAC compared to B (but in the opposing phase). Therefore, A to C is 240VAC. You needn't fear taking meter readings from a normal outlet. Don't be barefoot, standing in water, or on leather soles. If you...

Hmmm, it seems the 'wind tunnel' of the TJ06 hasn't become as popular as they hoped, if they dropped the idea so soon. That case looks like a marriage between a CM Stacker and a P180. But look at all those vents! It's a dust magnet waiting to happen. So the two HDD cages are down below, and position...

It is not my intent to disagree with MikeC, but for my case the gap under discussion did NOT allow for even a single 20 gage wire to pass through. I'm a retired avionics technician, so believe me when I say I can feed wires through most anywhere there's a hole. I'm sure there's some variation among ...

If you haven't seen it, the Thermaltake Sonic Tower, CL-P0071, is a passive tower that should end up close to either a top or back mounted exhaust fan. Also, a 120mm fan can be mounted between the fin stacks. It's heavy, but it has an adapter for K7 (Socket A) mounting.

Freelancer77, Do you honestly believe someone who has never built a computer before and wishes to do no modding should not buy this case? My experience has been limited to replacing video cards and powersupplies, but I figured I could try building one this summer, and the P180 looks the best. =\ If...

For all the wankers who have bashed this box, you can't get more gear, better accessories, and tighter construction for ANY price. So it isn't everyone's idea of perfect. Deal. That's uncalled for and rather offensive. The P180 is not without its flaws, as has been documented elsewhere. It wouldn't...