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by whiic
Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:29 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Need a quiet PATA drive
Replies: 14
Views: 5854

toronado455: "The drives were visible in the BIOS of the add-in card, but beyond that nothing worked. Windows actually could see the drives but couldn't do anything with them - couldn't partition, format or mount them - nothing." Where did you see them? Device Manager? Or Disk Management? If it was...
by whiic
Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:11 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Need a quiet PATA drive
Replies: 14
Views: 5854

direct adapter

"Yes, I would need the 44-pin to (40-pin + power) adapter, but those are fairly straight-forward pin to pin physical conversions with out any drivers needed to use, correct?" Indeed correct. But there's always possible 48bit LBA problems (i.e 137GB (128GiB) barrier) with any old motherboard. I have...
by whiic
Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:15 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Need a quiet PATA drive
Replies: 14
Views: 5854

- PATA 3.5" are 500GB max. No technical reason, it just seems more like a conspiracy that no manufacturer seems to offer bigger. - these 500-giggers may be of old tech... that is up to 3 platters instead of 1. PATA -> SATA transition happened when 500GB drives were among the biggest drives available...
by whiic
Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:04 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Acoustics: Terrabyte HDDs - 2.5" vs 3.5"
Replies: 8
Views: 6329

A word of caution on WD20EARS

A word of caution on WD20EARS (or moar liek OVER 9000 words, amirite?) WD20EARS... that's 64MB cache drive... 4th generation GreenPower. I was fourth, because while it probably has the same number of platters as WD20EADS, it uses completely different low-level formatting. It's the first mass-produc...
by whiic
Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:55 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Acoustics: Terrabyte HDDs - 2.5" vs 3.5"
Replies: 8
Views: 6329

I don't know if Pipeline is affected by potential issues arising from streaming feature set. Pipelines most likely have the feature set like AV-GP and Cinemastar but it might be disabled by default. And who knows AV-GP and Cinemastar might also have it disabled by default as well (which means there'...
by whiic
Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:53 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Acoustics: Terrabyte HDDs - 2.5" vs 3.5"
Replies: 8
Views: 6329

infrasonic: "I was wondering about noise comparisons between a 2.5" laptop drive (i.e. WD10TEVT) and a 3.5" standard size drive (i.e. WD10EVDS). Both are 1TB drives, but (naturally) the laptop drive costs more than a 3.5" 2TB drive (WD20EVDS) also." WD10EVDS is Western Digital's Audio-Visual GreenP...
by whiic
Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:24 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: greater than 2 Tb 3.5"?
Replies: 4
Views: 4502

4 KiB sector FTW!

God damn time to go beyond 512 byte sectors! If it was just HDD manufacturers, they would have done it ages ago, but they had to respect the customers, the OEMs, which obviously didn't want to make any architecture changes to their own products. Now, at 2 TiB barrier (current biggest HDDs 2 TB = 1,...
by whiic
Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:43 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: New 1TB or 1,5TB disks to my homeserver.
Replies: 3
Views: 2725

From personal experience, 1.0TB (2-platter) Samsung F2 Ecogreens have quite a bit quieter and smoother idle than WD10EACS-00ZJB0 (4-platter), WD10EACS-00D6B0 (3-platter), WD20EADS-00S2B0 (4-platter). Granted, it's an unfair comparison, with Samsung having less platters than any of my other high-cap ...
by whiic
Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:23 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB?
Replies: 7
Views: 9786

Holy FFFF.... I have to take that back. I was looking for "OEM specs" for 7K2000 but apparently they call the full specs documentation by name "7K2000_A7K2000_Spec_r1.0.pdf" now. No wonder I missed it since usually they make the full specs available to all public no sooner than half a year after rel...
by whiic
Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:06 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB?
Replies: 7
Views: 9786

"Why speculate when Hitachi has quite good documentation on their drives available for download? The 7K2000 is indeed a 5-platter drive." Is that stated in some document? It used to be but for some time, number of platters and heads haven't been publicized. From power consumption and noise specs, i...
by whiic
Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:42 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB?
Replies: 7
Views: 9786

It's 5-platter quite likely. It does have fast sequential transfer rates like 500GB/pl drives but this drive has very low access times as well, which would imply that it uses linear densities typical for 500GB/pl but with lower track densities, since it reduces seek settling time (speeds up seeks). ...
by whiic
Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:26 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: noise:Samsung F[2-3] vs. intel s1156 stock HFS
Replies: 8
Views: 5043

"The disk measured 82.4 F under light load, and 85.9 F under heavy load. (SMART said 26 C and 28 C, both lower by 2 C) So in my system, with very little airflow, under heavy load, a 500GB F2 runs 8.6 C above room ambient." Are you claiming 8.6 degrees C = 3 degrees C ? You just proved SMART tempetu...
by whiic
Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:59 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: noise:Samsung F[2-3] vs. intel s1156 stock HFS
Replies: 8
Views: 5043

sloeer: "Are any of the 5400rpm F2 or 7200rpm F3 going to be heard over my intel stock cpu fan? (the case is an Antec P150 with some rubber standoffs for disk drives)" Rubber standoffs are too hard to properly decouple a HDD. As fot Intel sock HSFs, I only have experience of some P4 and early C2Q. ...
by whiic
Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:26 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: batch scripts for turning off hard drives from windows
Replies: 34
Views: 103295

Nice short tutorial. "Now my only problem is that using SpeenFan it triggers SMART values, which spins up the drive even if the partition is unmounted. I need to solve that" That's the easy part. Just disable temperature monitoring of selected hard drives. Temperature monitoring of HDDs is performed...
by whiic
Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:31 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Which quiet, inexpensive SATA drive?
Replies: 42
Views: 20966

A couple of? Why do you need several? More than one computer? If you have only one computer, buy a single 1000GB instead. It's better than having two 500-giggers. Except for performance. And if performance was not an issue with Barracuda IV, it would not be an issue with F2 Ecogreen, even if there w...
by whiic
Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:49 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Which quiet, inexpensive SATA drive?
Replies: 42
Views: 20966

toronado455: "F3 vs F2... what exactly, specifically is the noise that is worse on the F3?" Idle noise is much worse on Spinpoint (F1 (333GB/platter) or F3 (500GB/pl)) than Ecogreen (F1 (333GB/pl) or F2 (500GB/pl)). F2 and F3 are SAME generation of HDD with different spin rates. Like F1 Spinpoint (...
by whiic
Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:21 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB?
Replies: 7
Views: 9786

Just curious: which store? Since usually Hitachi HDDs have cost extra here in Finland. I'm not in a hurry to expand my capacity (just swapped a dead 1TB Greenpower to 2TB Greenpower so I'll be happy with my capacity for a while) and I know for sure that 5-platter 7200rpm certainly cannot be comparab...
by whiic
Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:26 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: SSD for portable storage
Replies: 5
Views: 3131

Backing up 256 at speed of USB2.0 (usually around 25...30 MB/s practical usable bandwidth of 60 MB/s theoretical, but I've seen some reach 35 MB/s and some others less than 20 MB/s (what a waste!)) will take 2 and half hours, not "overnight". If Kingston takes overnight, it ain't bottlenecking even ...
by whiic
Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:02 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Which quiet, inexpensive SATA drive?
Replies: 42
Views: 20966

cmthomson: "The Samsung F2 500GB SATA drives (HD502HI) are ... Probably a bit slower than your old Baracudas, but not much." Nope. I don't think so. Samsung F1 Spinpoint (7200rpm, 333GB/pl) has same transfer rate as Samsung F2 Ecogreen (5400rpm, 500GB/pl). 1st generation WD Greenpower (5400rpm, 250...
by whiic
Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:56 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: EcoGreen F2 500GB not as quiet as expected
Replies: 35
Views: 19314

Potential condensation problems: - You have a HDD indoors, use it normally. The relative moisture inside is well within acceptable limits of 5-95% as HDDs are typically rated. You power it down, transport it outdoors where it's 20 deg C below zero. Air may be dry as hell, but the air is pretty much ...
by whiic
Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:25 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: What harddrive for HTPC
Replies: 8
Views: 4533

Lol at recommendations: 7200rpm desktops and 5400rpm laptops mixed. Where's the middle ground? Oh yeah, one 7200rpm laptop too. Why pay extra when you can get same performance with smaller price or higher capacity with 5400rpm desktop? If you need capacity, Greenpower or Ecogreen is the way to go. I...
by whiic
Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:14 pm
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: Is there a problem with head parks on WD Green HDDs?
Replies: 296
Views: 468479

One of my WD went south at 360000 cycles. Too many (1265) bad sectors that appeared out of nowhere suddenly. Haven't grown in number since but because it fails SMART, the HDD has probably entered some failsafe mode and write speeds have dropped to below 10MB/s. It probably verifies each write which ...
by whiic
Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:50 pm
Forum: Green Computing
Topic: cardboard computer case...
Replies: 10
Views: 9745

"Mine never burst into flames." I've never had any computer component burst into flames. This means that I could have had each of my computer (half a dozen so far, including retired ones) in a cardboard box, and NONE of them would have burst into flames. True story. Yet, when the first one does bur...
by whiic
Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:50 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Advice needed for small and slim fans
Replies: 4
Views: 2821

How about using a big fan for case intake, and remove all exhaust fans from the case AND your PSU? Duct tape all exhaust opening close too. That way you would cool the entire case with single Nexus Real Silent 120mm or Scythe S-FLEX or Noctua NF-P12 (high-pressure variant as you're pushing air throu...
by whiic
Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:33 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Dyson bladeless fan
Replies: 5
Views: 6106

I don't think the scalability is the biggest problem but it would be a problem as well. Even with full-sized Dyson "bladeless" (has blades but they are hidden) has a relatively slow sized high-rpm fan hidden inside. Scaling down would make the internal fan ridiculously small. But the bigger problem ...
by whiic
Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:01 am
Forum: Green Computing
Topic: WDTV Media Player (WDAVN00 or WDAVP00BE), USBHDD->HDMI
Replies: 15
Views: 19953

Thank you for the power consumption data, bircoe. I was aware of the fact that stand-by doesn't save electricity. I guess the idea is that it disables the HDMI interface so if you have connected WDTV to a desktop computer monitor instead of TV, the monitor goes into stand-by as there's no input to m...
by whiic
Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:30 am
Forum: Green Computing
Topic: WDTV Media Player (WDAVN00 or WDAVP00BE), USBHDD->HDMI
Replies: 15
Views: 19953

"I need something that will be able to use linux easy probably" Well, this thread was about WDTV (and to a lesser extent other devices with same purpose). "a netbook using Tegra 650 that from my knowledge is not available for now" Why bring up a product that does not exist as an alternative to WDTV...
by whiic
Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:29 am
Forum: The Silent Front
Topic: Quiet HTPC on a tight budget?
Replies: 3
Views: 6052

Extremely economic and ecologic solution

If you have a computer already, any kind of computer, why not try WDTV? It does not have all the functionality of a HTPC due to lack of CPU power, keyboard and mouse, but it does what it's designed to do pretty darn well. WDTV is basically a small computer with a remote control as only input device....
by whiic
Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:30 am
Forum: Green Computing
Topic: WDTV Media Player (WDAVN00 or WDAVP00BE), USBHDD->HDMI
Replies: 15
Views: 19953

electrodacus, but again, if you run stuff on generic OS, you need proper players. Granted, vast majority of Tegra based products will come with some player. If the OS of Tegra system doesn't prevent installing of "non-approved" software to run on top of it then it not a futile attempt to try make it...
by whiic
Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:01 pm
Forum: Green Computing
Topic: WDTV Media Player (WDAVN00 or WDAVP00BE), USBHDD->HDMI
Replies: 15
Views: 19953

WDTV is not a replacement for a computer but neither is Tegra 650. Try running XP on it, doing video-editing on Sony Vegas. Not much use for CAD, compiling programs or image editing either, not to mention occasional gaming. And as Tegra doesn't quite qualify as a normal computer but rather just a co...