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by larrymoencurly
Sat Jan 03, 2004 2:34 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Thermistors for fans
Replies: 6
Views: 8164

PC Power & Cooling said that their thermistors aren't involved in thermal shutdown and that you can't even order thermal shutdown as an option. A couple of Enlight PSUs I looked at used the thermistor only for fan control, and I'm pretty sure the same is true with my 300W Antec. I don't know about m...
by larrymoencurly
Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:12 pm
Forum: The Silent Front
Topic: What is the best material for ducting?
Replies: 6
Views: 3540

I use polypropylene because it's easy to cut, takes high heat (made for ovens), and can be "welded" together with a soldering iron. Those translucent storage boxes are made of it, and fairly large ones are sold by 99-cent stores, or sometimes for $4 you can get a big box made for sliding under the b...
by larrymoencurly
Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:41 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Disturbing discovery on Aopen PSU
Replies: 8
Views: 5022

But that could just be from the Aopen's fan running slower, as is the case with my Antec SmartPower. OTOH a PSU dissipating 69W will make the top of the computer case really warm.
by larrymoencurly
Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:32 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Disturbing discovery on Aopen PSU
Replies: 8
Views: 5022

If the measurements are accurate and the computer drew the same amount of power in each test, then assuming 70% efficiency for the Codegen, the Codegen dissipated 9W while the Aopen/Fortron dissipated 69W (23% efficiency). Did the Aopen/Fortron feel a lot hotter? Because when I loaded 300W PSUs to 3...
by larrymoencurly
Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:13 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Disturbing discovery on Aopen PSU
Replies: 8
Views: 5022

Do you mean you have an energy meter that reads out in joules or kilowatt-hours? Does it just measure current and assume that watts is simply amps X average volts, or does it also measure volts continuously to correct for power factor? The passive power factor correction coil in my 300W Fortron/Spar...
by larrymoencurly
Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:42 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Piezoelectric power supplies
Replies: 3
Views: 2662

Why can't they just boost the efficiency and frequency of regular PSUs? TI sent me a 150W module that works at over 200 KHz, is claimed to be 90% efficient, and is smaller than a 3 Musketeers bar.
by larrymoencurly
Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:59 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Athlon CPU supply from 5v rail?
Replies: 8
Views: 5689

I also measured about 8-13A on the +5V with my Athon XP1800+ and ECS K7S5A Pro, which definitely runs the CPU from the +5V because it uses only the 20-pin ATX connector, and the highest voltage applied to the big transistors and diodes for the CPU core voltage regulator is +5V. I get hardly any +5V ...
by larrymoencurly
Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:39 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: temperature controlled fans
Replies: 4
Views: 2577

Why not tweak the temperature controller? It probably has resistors to change how sharply the RPM changes and at what temperature it changes. I'd start by adding a varialble resistor across the thermistor, maybe 2,000-10,000 ohms, and tweak it until the fan ran kind of steadily.
by larrymoencurly
Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:38 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: temperature controlled fans
Replies: 4
Views: 2577

Why not tweak the temperature controller? It probably has resistors to change how sharply the RPM changes and at what temperature it changes. I'd start by adding a varialble resistor across the thermistor, maybe 2,000-10,000 ohms, and tweak it until the fan ran kind of steadily.
by larrymoencurly
Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:24 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: removing psu fan, quick question?
Replies: 5
Views: 3237

The problem with trying to discharge the capacitors is that it can be hard to reach the needed discharge points on top of the circuit board, and removing the board to gain access from the bottom could cause any charged capacitors to shock you. Fortunately, the capacitors will almost always be bled d...
by larrymoencurly
Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:38 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Braiding power wiring - any problems in doing so?
Replies: 6
Views: 2334

The only thing I've found against braiding wires was about low-inductance audio amplifier speaker wires made of several thin braided wires. The author, a professor of electrical engineering, said that this caused excess capacitance that could lead to instability. But I don't think this can possibly ...
by larrymoencurly
Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:06 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: PSU modding to watercooling problems
Replies: 10
Views: 4527

Does anyone know why the ProSilence fanless PSU is not certified by CSA, UL, or TUV, only by CE? I've been told that CE isn't as strict about having actual samples tested. I once asked an engineer friend about those insulators, and he didn't like the idea of relying on them as the only barrier again...
by larrymoencurly
Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:19 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: How to slow down the PSU fan?
Replies: 8
Views: 6478

Wire a 50 ohm thermistor in series with the fan's red lead and silicone seal the thermistor on the low voltage heatsink (the one closest to all the wires coming out of the PSU and farthest from the big cylindrical capacitor(s) )?
by larrymoencurly
Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:12 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: PSU modding to watercooling problems
Replies: 10
Views: 4527

Do you realize that with a lot of PSUs the heatsink for the high voltage transistors itself has high voltage on it? I've measured about 170VDC on these heatsinks in a 300W Delta, Antec SmartPower, and Powmax models and in a 350W Enerermax. And don't assume that the presense of rubber insulators betw...
by larrymoencurly
Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:05 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Fortron Hi-Q vs FSP 350W PS
Replies: 4
Views: 2781

All FSP-made PSUs have protection against overvoltage, overcurrent, etc., and many use a Fairchild KA3511 chip on a small vertical circuit board that has overvoltage protection built in and makes it easy to add overcurrent protection. The main difference between the brands is that Hi-Q PSUs have sle...
by larrymoencurly
Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:43 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Wierd noise from PSU at startup...
Replies: 1
Views: 1171

Power factor correction coil? Coils make noise, but this is the only one I know of in an ATX PSU that runs at a low enough frequency to make a buzzzzz.
by larrymoencurly
Sat Nov 29, 2003 12:19 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: JSP technology PSUs
Replies: 8
Views: 4217

What does it look like inside? Here are pictures of the insides of several PSUs:[/url]http://terasan.okiraku-pc.net/dengen/[url] Fortron/Sparkle based PSUs usually have lots of holes in their heatsinks, unless they've been modified with heavier ones. Another sign of Fortron/Sparkle are the 3-4 small...
by larrymoencurly
Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:57 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Quality vs "el cheapo" power supply
Replies: 8
Views: 5183

It should be easy to get a high quality 300-350W Fortron/Sparkle PSU from www.directron.com or www.newegg.com for about $27-36, and they have some of them for as little as $20-25 under the Hi-Q brand (sleeve bearing fan). PC Power & Cooling has two visual comparisons of good and bad: Their 510W vers...
by larrymoencurly
Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:18 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: amdmb review 10 psus
Replies: 3
Views: 2190

I was shocked at the high ripple measurement for the +5Vstandby of the 400W Powmax because when I measured it with my 300W Powmax @ 1.5A, the high frequency ripple was only about 50mVp-p. The review didn't mention whether the ripple high-freq. or 60 Hz, but if the latter, isn't it easy to pick up lo...
by larrymoencurly
Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:24 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Taking the cover off the PSU, recommended?
Replies: 8
Views: 4144

When I tried my 300W Antec SmartPower with the cover removed, the low voltage heatsink eventually heated to 70 Celcius, but when I put a temporary plastic cover on to take the temp., the heatsink was only about 43C. To me this shows just how important the "tunnel" effect is for the PSU. OTOH the cas...
by larrymoencurly
Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:16 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Fortron 350 Surgery / Temp Concerns
Replies: 6
Views: 2991

How hot are your transistors and diodes getting? The spec sheets I've seen allow them to reach 125-150C at the hottest part of the chip itself, and I've read that if you stay at least 30C below that, the thing will last forever. There are some Snickers-sized 150W PSU modules at www.ti.com that are r...
by larrymoencurly
Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:11 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Where could I put a thermal probe in my PSU ?
Replies: 3
Views: 2059

Be careful about putting the probe on a heatsink because some PSU heatsinks have high voltage on them!!! I measured 170 volts DC on one of the two heatsinks in Powmax, Antec Smartpower, and Delta PSUs. Those heatsinks were located right next to the big cylindrical capacitors rated for at least 200 v...
by larrymoencurly
Sat Aug 23, 2003 9:46 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Why use powersupply case?
Replies: 13
Views: 5025

One of the heatsinks in my Antec reached 70 Celcius when I ran it without the cover, but when I covered it again they stayed below 50C, even though Antec normally run the fans very slowly.
by larrymoencurly
Sat Aug 23, 2003 9:39 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Why use powersupply case?
Replies: 13
Views: 5025

One of the heatsinks in my Antec reached 70 Celcius when I ran it without the cover, but when I covered it again it stayed below 50C (temporary plastic cover, hole drilled through it for temperature probe), even though Antecs normally run their fans very slowly. OTOH I found a PSU with few openings ...
by larrymoencurly
Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:24 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Do I really need the 4-pin 12V connector from PSU to MB?
Replies: 4
Views: 1969

C'T magazine said that the current draw for an older XP2400+ system was about 9A @ +12V, 2-3A @ +5V, and 9-12A @ +3.3V.
by larrymoencurly
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:34 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: 2003 Anandtech Power Supply Roundup Part II
Replies: 28
Views: 12052

What difference would it make to have MemTest86 wait six hours before reading back them memory rather than read it back right away? How would that be a better test of RF interference causing memory errors when the bits are refreshed every few milliseconds anyway? Is that much charge lost in the bit ...
by larrymoencurly
Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: How to completely drain a power supply...
Replies: 42
Views: 133194

A 6800 uF capacitor (about ten times the size of those in ATX PSUs)that I charged to 18V several months ago is currently at 13.4V, so I wouldn't rely upon leaving the PSU unplugged for several weeks to drain off the voltage. Some of my PSUs make a noise just before the LED on the mobo goes dim, and ...
by larrymoencurly
Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:41 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: rubber gloves...
Replies: 27
Views: 10785

I've been told not to trust rubber gloves unless they're very thick and tough and have been tested just prior to use. Apparently one problem is that the hands get so sweaty that if a break does occur, the shock is sometimes worse than if the person had touched the high voltage without gloves. I'm no...
by larrymoencurly
Fri Jul 18, 2003 12:56 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Power Supply Voltage Issues
Replies: 7
Views: 3549

Maybe that particular Enermax 350W can't put out sufficient power for the +3.3V and +5.0V, but I'm guessing that its combined power rating is at least 180W, which should be enough for anything up to about XP2400+. Maybe one of the 100uF or larger, 6.3-25V capacitors on the output is bad
by larrymoencurly
Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:59 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: rubber gloves...
Replies: 27
Views: 10785

Won't the PSU's +5V standby supply drain the capacitors in about 15 seconds (the wait before I hear a chirp or buzz)?

Those approximately 200K resistors across the capacitors will drain them in about 1,000 seconds (5 x 200K x 1000uF).