New RBE 1.18 is out! With this version, changed Saphire and Gigabyte Bios can be saved!
Now maybe Sapphire/Gigabyte users can equal HIS idle Power consumption?
Or maybe beat, if HIS can't physicaly do 0.9V and other cards can?
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- Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:49 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
- Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:22 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
- Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:34 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
- Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:17 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
- Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:05 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
Aris: We are not talking about the same issue. It's true what you're saying, but if VGA generates less heat in the first place, than you have less heat to worry about. If VGA needs about 20W in idle, the temp on HS in 100% passive system will be about 60 degC. If VGA needs about 30W in idle, the tem...
- Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:06 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
Aris: Can we stop now with this in this thread, please? Yes, it's true that VGA can handle up to 100c, but the problem is that you must take this heat out of the PC... and by having so hot VGA, then also MB will heat up, HDD will feel the heat, etc... No good for my setup. So runninig passive is ver...
- Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:46 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: To replace or not to replace (a 7600GT), this is the matter!
- Replies: 25
- Views: 7086
Very weird power consumptions in that review. No logic at all! 4670 needs 44W more than 4650 at load? @quest_for_silence: To the heat topic. So if you add VGA card to the pary you get over 100W fast, right? The Sapphire cards are not yet supported by RBE, they have bit diferent BIOS. Most 4670 have ...
- Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:10 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: To replace or not to replace (a 7600GT), this is the matter!
- Replies: 25
- Views: 7086
I'd say no to Sapphire cards, as they don't have proper Bios values. They tend to consume some extra W in idle, compared to HIS, MSI,... Look in the 4670 thread for more details. At xbitlabs measured 15W in idle and 36 W load for 7600 GT, really good balance at that time. For 4670 they measured 9W i...
- Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:26 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: To replace or not to replace (a 7600GT), this is the matter!
- Replies: 25
- Views: 7086
- Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:07 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
@Aris: I guess you did some research, but your source is not reliable. Why? Even in theory 4670 can't have 70W consumption. Remember, the card has no external power and max. it can get from MB is 75W (on paper). No company would go so close to the limit, so about 50W is more realistic. I didn't test...
- Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:33 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
@Aris: You know that's not true! Do a little research before you post. Your 8800GT sucks with the power consumtion. It has idle at 35W DC and 3D load at 80W DC. We are talking here about a 4670 card that has idle at 9W DC and 3D load 47W DC. (from xbitlabs) So buy two 4670 cards and you'll have lowe...
- Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:23 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
- Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:38 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Which silent video card?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 7590
@ds-ds: Just consider how much heat 9800GT makes. To talk about passive cards make sense only if they don't make a lot of heat in the first place. Look here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4830_4.html and you'll see that at the moment only 4670 is suitable for passive use! O...
- Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:46 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
- Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:19 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
@QuietOC: So, to make better idea how much a real system uses, SPCR should modify method 1b. Modern IGP can use 5W or more and that should be taken into account. SPCR should find an old discrete 2D only card and measure the actual power use. Then they could estimate IGP consumption and then correct ...
- Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:41 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: looking for a good 24" monitor
- Replies: 40
- Views: 12783
- Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:46 am
- Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
- Topic: MOUSE whine?!
- Replies: 40
- Views: 38081
- Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:14 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
@Vicotnik: I wish you'll have sucess with RBE tweaking. Btw, you have excellent power consumption. Is that measured from the wall? Sure PSU is helping a lot. :) But how do you handle 3D load? Did you measure how much you have without 4670, or how much HIS cards adds to the power consumption? @Matija...
- Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:44 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
@Ksanderash: Now I'm bit confused ... ??? @fanerman91: We can assume onboard GPU's consume few wats (2, 3 maybe 4?). So with 4670 you could come close to that, at least below 10W, as SPCR test showed. I don't have onboard GPU, but I did measure consumption with old Matrox PCI card. That card is so o...
- Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:07 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
- Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:27 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Sub $100 VGA card
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3197
As we discovered in last few days keep away from Sapphire 4670, as it has higher power consumtion in normal windows work! Try to get one, where Power Play is implemented right. We confirmed that for HIS card, SPCR review had stock ATI card - that was also ok. MSI could also be ok, but we need to con...
- Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:30 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
There was much discussion about that at forums on: http://www.mvktech.net/ Basicaly it's so: if you have voltage 1,25V, you must put that to decimal nummer 1250 - convert to hex value 4E2 and now tricky part - change the order of hex value E2 04! Now if you search Bios for this values you can quickl...
- Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:48 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
No problem, it's up to you. Btw, I made the same changes as RBE would do, only diference is, that I do this 'manual'. If I open new Bios in RBE I see the changes and correct checksum there. Also RBE has small text - do this on your own bla, bla ... But if you can buy a HIS card, this is a safe way -...
- Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:45 am
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
No problem, it's up to you. Btw, I made the same changes RBE would do, only diference that I do this 'manual'. If I open Bios in RBE I see the changes there and correct checksum. Also RBE has small text - do this on your own bla, bla ... But if you can buy a HIS card, this is a safe way - if you can...
- Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
@Vicotnik: Thanks for providing Bioses. I saw 3 diferent 4670 Bioses and here is how are they implemented: - HIS: PowerPlay is ok, in idle 165/250 MHz @ 0,9V - Gigabyte: PowerPlay is there, but not optimal - in idle 300/1000 MHz @ 1,1V - Sapphire: PowerPlay is there, but is shitty- in idle 300/1000 ...
- Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:20 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640
@Vicotnik: If PowerPlay is enabled, what is the 'Clock info 01' setting for your bios? Maybe you post this on RBE forum and somebody can look at this issue? I see Sapphire is really lousy with taking care for Bios releases. I bought passive 2600XT and with stock Bios there was no 2D mode - leading t...
- Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:07 am
- Forum: Power Supplies
- Topic: Some middle-high power passive PSUs
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4048
Here are Etasis PSUs, there is 500W model: http://www.etasis.com.tw/en/product_list.aspx?cid=C_00000032&cname=300W+%7e+500W I have EFN-300 model. I like the heatpipes on this model. You can't fool physics. Even on low loads with no airflow PSU gets quite hot - finger test. That's also because PSU is...
- Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:59 pm
- Forum: Power Supplies
- Topic: Some middle-high power passive PSUs
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4048
I think so powerfull passive PSUs are useless. Why? If you need so much power, you'll have plenty of heat in PC, so you'll need many fans to take the heat out. I use passive PSU - an 300W Etasis model. My PC can run 100% passive only at idle where it uses about 70W (from wall). While gaming I need 1...
- Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:41 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Quiet / Noisy Monitor Survey
- Replies: 272
- Views: 536268
Eizo S2431W - not 100% silent for silent maniac, for general public I suppose it is. Auto brightnes regulation, no change in noise! From close distance electronic noise can be heard. In normal working distance and in quiet room is panaflo@5V louder (fan motor noise). So, good monitor from silent vie...
- Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:30 pm
- Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
- Topic: Radeon HD 4670: A perfect balance?
- Replies: 498
- Views: 413640