Are they reliable? I don't know. Are they less reliable than most regular reviewers who also have their economical reasons for presenting a certain result? I don't know that either You hit the nail on the head. There are always pressures/desires on people for one thing or another. But sometimes we ...

Desktop Turion compared with Desktop Pentium M... http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=turion64 Note they compared a 25 TDP Turion on a DFI 250-GB desktop board versus 27 TDP Pentium M on DFI's 855GM board. Good info in there, I only wish they had chosen to use an ASUS board with the CT-4...

thanks again, my recollection of those two programs is that they also won't overvolt.

Oh well, I have the urge to build something with a P-M but I can't find an excuse to do so.

hmsrolst, thanks for the info. I just noticed that the board you are using is the M-Atx version of Asus's 865 line. Quick question, does the new BIOS also let you overvolt if you're so inclined? Or does it only let you undervolt? I ask 'cause typically the M-ATX boards don't have many overclocking f...

I'm trying to figure out if we'll be able put any 3rd party coolers with this (with mods of course)


At some point someone will figure out a better cooling solution (Not that there's anything wrong with the stock one, I'd just to see more options)

Replying to myself, more info is here: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=71_214&products_id=2152&osCsid=11a5b56e799818ba7b137836e28d159b I got most of my guesses right but the description does say it has a 40cm fan in there: " Form factor: one 5.25-inch drive bay space & ...

Here's something I found pretty interesting. It may have some silent pc uses. It may have some nifty HTPC uses. It may even have some applicability for small form factor folks: Ladies and Gentleman, A fanless, hardware-based Raid 1, 5.25" internal enclosure that encloses 2 2.5" hard drives: http://w...

NOTEBOOKS: I have no experience with any MobileAMD-based laptops, but nowadays most Pentium M based laptops are very silent. In some models the fan doesn't come on at all for normal tasks. The Ultra Low voltage models (900mhz -1.1 ghz) generally have no fan in them at all. CONTROLLING NOISE: Finally...

This sounds like one of those things the inquirer might actually get right --> they do get things right sometimes. They just never verify anything and just print out anything. Regarding the who cares comment: This is the silentpc forum, so I imagine a lot of people here care, given that power is rel...

Almost what you are looking for: http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/mass_storage.htm It's pricey and it is currently using standard sata cables for an external 4-drive enclosure (as opposed to the upcoming external sata cable specifications which are supposed to have push prongs like ethernet ...

Quick question for the reviewers: Is it possible to stick a 2.5" drive in there (using a normal 2.5" -> 3.5" converter mount) and do you think it would help reduce acoustics for a 2.5" drive? Heat transfer is not critical in this situation. There was no picture of what the back of the cooldrive look...

ah, ok so there is a difference!!

Interesting results, Frosted, so is the default voltage 1.2? That seems to confirm alot of the analysis (ala anandtech): these chips are really the same as the Oakvilles and the Turion is really a rebranded relaunch of the current 90 nm mobile line. If you do the math (http://www.benchtest.com/calc....

That power consumption graph (including the overclocking) and the gaming benchmarks are why I'm considering the P-M if I upgrade my gaming computer. The funny thing is, as far as games go I think overclocking has a ceiling for usefulness. Games aren't like encoding where faster automatically equals ...

flo-w, what DID happen to your project?

You sounded so close...

Either anandtech or overclockers has a list of compatible boards, ASUS's KBV and K8N are both on it... albeit not tested with this exact mobile processor. BUT... Fellow spcr poster ddrueding1 has one running in his K8N, if I'm reading his sig correctly. If I'm reading all the various sites correctly...

Thanks for all the info. After turning to the trusty wattage calculator, I've now realized that this 35 watt part is already a good candidate for a fanless HTPC system. So I guess I really don't need to go any other exotic route: just a compatible Socket 754 board and a mobile 64! http://www.benchte...

ok, I was beaten to this. The original thread is this:

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewto ... ight=atech

In any case, this sounds very cool to me and I may just try it out....

I just posted about A-Tech's silent external SATA HD enclosure, now here's their Potentially Fanless HTPC Case (your choice): http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/heatsync_6000.htm The price for all these custom parts is severely high, but its another option in the fanless case arena and probabl...

Wow, I was browsing htpcnews.com and ran across a link to a custom manufacturer I've never heard of before. This company has some serious designs! First up is this fanless, hard drive external sata enclosure. SPCR, you guys should talk to this company (and vice versa!): http://www.atechfabrication.c...

Maybe you should write up your psu mod?

Sounds interesting... I know a lot of us are really tired of waiting for Zalman's NEPS external psu.

thanks for the info! Yeah, I finally found a description of the 120Watt brick on this site, where it explicitly says it has a small fan: http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.13/it.A/id.279/.f so it looks like If still wanted to use a laptop style brick, the highest I could go are the 80watt mo...

I could have sworn this had been a topic before, but can't find anything: As I'm always thinking about tinkering and thinking, does anyone have any first hand experience with power converters such as this: http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/cPath/40/products_id/254 I know these are used in ...

Mats,

No problem! I overreacted anyway.

In any case, as soon as these become available and are reviewed, we'll get a better idea of what to do with them...

Mats wrote: You didn't complain about there's no 2.26 GHz PM either (Intel fanboy?), for now. Man, I just read this!! What's up with the personal attack? The only room for "fans" when it comes to SPCR are the 5 volt modded ones. You are correct though, I didn't note the 2.26 PM was not available, bu...

wumpus, regarding storage, I'm contemplating doing this with with my media: http://www.buffalotech.com/products/product-detail.php?productid=97&categoryid=19 (pricey, yes but cool and not THAT pricey: $1 per gig for raw space, $1.33 per gig in Raid 5 mode) So you just stick this puppy away somewhere...

Good Info Issac, I was worried about that myself, but was hoping that the lower noise floor of the 2.5" drive would be enough to offset things. This one issue really makes deciding on a future HTPC case difficult, since the new ones that look uber-cool have one 5.25" mount which makes using a 5.25 e...

Hey Isaac, I wouldn't mind buying a ready-made 3.5" solution... I think 3.5" will give you a wider market, as many of the newer and slimmer HTPC cases have only one 5.25" mount and a few 3.5" internal mounts. BTW, NoVibes makes a 2.5 -> 3.5" suspended kit (I saw it at Silicon Acoustics), so you'd wa...

Well as far as P-M desktop analysis goes, I prefer to look at functional criteria according to need. I already know I have two "desktop" computers that perform 2 different functions: 1. Game Computer 2. HTPC/File Server So when I judge the P-M, I try to judge for those 2 different uses: For #1, My p...

The C7 sounds like another contender if I ever update my HTPC.

thanks for the link and heads up, I missed that one!