Well health insurance is something everybody must have since everybody lives and has a body (unlike car insurance for example), that's why it's obligatory by law in many countries. What's the purpose of an insurance? You need medical insurance because you don't know if a big disease is going to hit ...

I hate it when I walk out of the door of my school on a rainy day and get a lungfull of smoke for reasons mentioned above already (makes me cough and smells bad). But there's worse: I cycle in heavy traffic every day, and a 2-stroke scooter/motorbike is worse, or a badly adjusted diesel, or a bus, o...

But don't blame colonization, when you have argued that decolonization has caused the problems! (And "we"? What colonies has switzerland had? Or do you include us Brits in your "we"? How... friendly I suppose!) Sorry, there is no way you could know this but while I am located in Switzerland (and ne...

One quote that made me grind my teeth together was this: Manufacturers are moving in droves towards ROHS compliant "green" components, as power consumption continues to put performance computing at odds with environmental consciousness. Of course we know that ROHS has nothing to do with power consum...

Hell, I'm not even a fan of mass democracy. I'd prefer the best educated and most moral to vote So you are saying that some people's opinions are worth more than others. That's a dangerous path to walk... How do you judge who's more moral? Do you think the educated people will vote for the good of ...

*cough* NorthQ *cough*

You'll probably found that they tried, but it was too complicated and expensive to make it worth it. Especially since I think that Zalman has the kind of reputation that makes people buy their products, even if they were inferior.

the flexibility of using different discrete GPUs can also be beneficial. Yup. This has already been done in the notebook segment. What I'm saying is that if a big company wants to make a pc with low-powerconsumption graphics, they would probably just use the "MXM" module, which is much smaller anyw...

We can't know what to do to help far off strangers I myself also admit to be somewhat hostile towards liberalism, free trade and globalisation, but: If there are no trade barriers whatsoever, if there are no immigration barriers whatsoever and if we erase the debt of poor countries that have alread...

I think the reason the CPU manufacturers started pushing the "performance-per-watt" stuff because the need for more powerful processors was dying (at least for the majority of users) and had to find a new way to differenciate. The GPU market is probably also going to top out soon with even mid-range...

Well, basically most of us in the forums knew most of this already. It is a useful arcticle for "outsiders" and newcomers. The conclusion makes me think you should send a link to this arcticle to the ISO :lol: The mention of the fact that a louder but more pleasant noise can still be acceptable brin...

Well, getting back to the original topic and debate... Other than Warren Buffett, who made his money investing and turning companies around, all the richest men in the world make their money by starting a business that does something better than anyone else does it, or that provides a service no one...

I've just been running prime95 for ~1h45m on an AMD64 system that has a prehistoric PSU with 8A on the 12v rail: the bios thinks I'm at 11.6v and speedfan thinks I'm at 11v... Still no problems

Check out "Sleep States" on this page: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html Basically S3 is what you want: I can confirm from practical experience (from my spanking new AMD64 system that I'll tell you guys about in a week or so :D ) that S3 is as close to off as you can get other tha...

For the northbridge problems, maybe leaving the I/O shield out, or making a hole there will help, three possibilities of what will happen: 1. Air will be sucked in through the hole and past the NB heatsink 2. Air will be sucked in through the hole and back out the extract fan, then you will need to ...

I have a vacuum-cleaner extension with a small [hopefully antistatic] brush that works quite well, and hasn't killed anything yet. I think I got it in a general purpose computer, or do-it-your self store in the US.

I wouldn't be sure of either side, but there's definately something fishy going on, so I'll lean towards the "yes" side... We might find out the real truth in 50 years from now, IIRC that's how long the US gov keeps stuff secret. When was JFK killed again? His assasination plans must be released rel...

Err, back on topic, I know those aren't very hot components, but, does the PSU ramp up alot on load? Maybe some case fans are in order (and cutting out those grilles)... I think you're nuts to think of enclosing a laptop drive :shock: For the fan control, does the BIOS of your gigabyte board allow y...

I think with those temps, you can still afford to lower the fan speeds quite a bit. We'll see when you add the filter. For the paint job, did you use grain filler? In my project I'm still doing coats of grain filler (although I'm not working very fast, I'll admit), I'm trying to get it as smooth as ...

Looking over your post, and the pictures of the motherboards concerned, I have another, more plausible theory: The gigabyte board is the GA-M57SLI-S4. If it was the 590, the power consumption difference between it and the Asus board in your post is too much. The reason it is less good than the Abit ...

So the conclusion then is Gigabyte sucks? The load power levels seem to indicate that the gigabyte board is more efficient though. The question now is: is the gigabyte just more efficient at full load and crap at low load, or has the gigabyte board got a good VRM, but loads of "extra" chips that use...

Thanks for the information, it is definately very useful.

If it's not indiscrete to ask, where are you getting all these motherboards from? You must run a computer shop.

vitaminc wrote:What's important is the total power draw at the wall. That's going to effect your monthly electricity bill.

Granted, but that doesn't mean it's uninteresting to see power consumption of individual components, since most of us here buy the components separately.

Thanks. 10W is a pretty significant difference, now why does nobody in Switzerland have Abit boards???? I might just have to import it, but the import duties kill you here...

You posted the AMD graph instead of the Intel one. [edit: either I messed up, or you made a correction :) ] That's a pretty crazy mod of those guys, but it makes cross-platform comparisons possible. Pity they didn't have the conroes with the smaller cache, it would be interesting to see if there was...

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P3's seem to be the standard trash bin material nowadays, that's why I'm using one. Keeping a sharp eye out for when the northwoods hit the street

Wait a sec! I just looked at the Abit website , and it appears that the KN9 is based on the nForce 4 Ultra, not the 570 SLI. Or maybe you meant the KN9 SLI... Funny, I thought the 5xx series could only have been an improvement over the past generation in terms of power consumption (I thought they w...

Welcome to SPCR!!! I think you will find that after you have managed to silence those HDD's, you'll find the case fan is noisy, after that, maybe you find the PSU ramps up to much, etc... Enjoy the addiction :lol: That looks like it'll be hard to silence those HDD's though, there are 3 of them in q...

We should get some SPCR insider in a big computer store with time on his hands to do a test like this with a wider range of mobos. There seems to be no simple way of guessing which mobo is more efficient, you can guess that if it's a 590 it's going to use alot, if it's a VIA it'll use less, and if i...

I would like to see how you did it, but Yahoo! wants me to sign up or some BS. No way.

Where's the paper case? ;) I'm extremely disappointed--I was hoping for an actual paper case. I've made cases out of cardboard, and I've used (cardstock) paper extensively in some builds, but I've never actually made the entire case out of paper. Hmm... I was also disappointed :cry: . I wonder if i...