Palindroman wrote: If I may ask, how come the Meroms don't go below a 0.950v (T5600) and 0.975 (T7400) respectively..

The VID is locked. The specified lower vcore is probably the acceptable range for the package. AFAIK, in order to go lower, one would need BIOS undervolting. You could also mod your VID pins

Merom T5600 Stock 1.15V
min stock (1.86 GHz) 0.95 V - lowest possible VID

Juventas wrote: I assume "Last" means some kind of heavy load?

Indeed, it's 3DMark06.

Here you are:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hard ... gsaufnahme

Whole system, (3) = GDDR3, (4) = GDDR4. Voltage/frequency reduction is defective on the GDDR4 version.

Redzo wrote: Go with E6420 as it will oveclock to 3-3.4 very easy. Dont worry about RAM, you can use dividers if you don't want to overclock RAM.

Lowest dividor on intel chipsets is afaik 1:1. This means 400 MHz FSB max if you want to keep your DDR2-800 sticks within spec.

angelkiller wrote:

woodsman wrote:1) Athlon 64 X2 3800+ rev. SFF 90nm (EE); Vcore: 1.025 - 1.075; 2 GHz; 35W; ADD3800---

Number one was never released for retail

The first is now available here in Germany (oh wonder!).

The 6420 should have a higher stepping -> lower power consumption.

jessekopelman wrote: I think it is safe to assume the 7300GT draws more than the 7300GS and the original point of a 7600GS having similar draw to 7300GT likely stands.

Indeed, I was peeking at the lowest numbers instead of model numbers. Sorry.

So what's the card used for? What do you mean by "image quality" when you use DVI?

Beyonder wrote: From that information, the 7600GS has almost the exact same power draw as the 7300GT (actually, slightly less at load), and it outperforms the 7300GT as well.

Well, this crumbles if you take this url in account

Considering this test, another vote for the Geforce 7200/7300.

You could check the C1 time in the Windows performance monitor like described in the anandtech article (page 5).

Nice. Thank you!

Well for integrated and the Intel G965, it's just up to how much you trust intel to fix the drivers. See here for the actual situtation. Integrated graphics have 3D abilities for most games in 1024x768.

Otherwise, you could go with a passive discrete card. Do you need HDMI?

Burst speed isn't the problem. There might be problems when another device wants to transfer over the PCI bus. E.g. sound card, tv-tuner. It's just not a clear, performant solution.

Max Slowik wrote: WTH is PCI Gigabit?

Most likely a Gigabit ethernet controller which is attached via PCI and not via PCI Express. This makes the PCI bus overcrowded.

smilingcrow wrote: BTW, what’s a PEG slot?

PCI Express Graphics. The acronym is not too popular, though.

smilingcrow wrote:the best performance per watt should be an Intel S479 system (mobile Core 2 Duo for desktop) in conjunction with a PicoPSU.

Boards with a PEG slot tend to draw a bit more. Smilingcrow, do you still recommend the ABIT iL-90MV?

Scythe Infinity enjoys similar performance increase when push pins are swapped for bolt through kit Am I missing something in the review? page 1: "My first attempt used a custom bolt through mounting acquired through Jabtech.com with a set of screws and bolts from a local Ace Hardware stores. After...

After many steps on the wrong direction concerning power draws, there is finally some serious power management available. The 2400/2600 series of ATI clock back quite a lot (and hopefully also scale down the voltage). Idle power draw is even lower than a 7600 GT. Except for the 2600 XT GDDR4 which s...

Computerbase.de 2600 XT GDDR4 is ~5 % faster than GDDR3 version. Idle power draw of GDDR4 version very high because it does not clock down. Defective BIOS? Speed: Note: Computerbase.de tests with nvidia "high quality" enabled. 2600 XT slightly slower than 8600 GTS without AA/AF. With this features ...

austinbike wrote:Can't use powernow because the BIOS is unstable with that enabled (Tyan 2865). That is a project for this weekend, again.

Try RMClock and ChrystalCPUID with relaxed timings. (RMClock: Advanced)

What are you measuring temps with? I suggest using Speedfan or CoreTemp Oh I forgot, the Core Duo also has the new DTS. Just check with Coretemp. But beware, it's also not as reliable in measuring absolute temperature as ony might think. http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=340264#3...

Well MPEG2 acceleration is fine, but nothing here about newer formats. MPEG2 is not a problem for today's CPUs.

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/vid ... page4.html

Is cool'n'quiet enabled?

Well you're 56 °C away from the upper limit

I'd check the heatsink temperature since the built-in (legacy) diode is not that reliable and also needs interpretation by the mobo which leaves room for error.

One more example for the high power consumption. This case is settled for me by now.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hard ... gsaufnahme

Leistungsaufnahme = power draw
Last = load
Hinweis = information
mit = with

jaganath wrote: you need a mobo that can set CPU voltage manually though, hard to find these days.

The days of the undervoltable mainboards list ...

I have evidence proving it. The Asus needs a massive amount of energy: viewtopic.php?p=349921#349921

Recent issue (14/07) of the german printed magazine c't tested the following P35 mainboards: Asus P5K Deluxe/WIFI-AP: automatic fan control down to 50 % Asus P5K3 Deluxe/WIFI-AP: like P5K Gigabyte P35-DS4: automatic fan control down to 25 %, 3/4-pin compatible Foxconn P35A: automatic fan control dow...