Quiet Q6600 MicroATX Build with Silverstone TJ08

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megarek
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Quiet Q6600 MicroATX Build with Silverstone TJ08

Post by megarek » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:11 pm

Hello,

I very much needed to upgrade my P4 Prescott 3.2 gig machine. I wanted to move from a mid tower-ATX to a micro-ATX because I realized that I just did not need all of that space, and I did not want a big case. This build is meant to last me for a long time, so I probably went with more powerful components than I needed I tried to save money where I could, so it is not an all out build. I will be playing some games occasionally, photo editing, and movie editing possibly, so I wanted to go with a quad core. Thanks to many members of the forum whose ideas made this build possible.

Specs
  • Case - Silverstone TJ08: I was debating for a long time between this case, the Lian Li V350, and the Antec 3480. I decided against the Lian Li because I did not like the lack of exhaust. I did not like that the Antec looked so plastically, even though it is definitely the superior case in terms of quality. Finally, I found a used TJ08 on ebay that had a minor cosmetic blemish, so I picked it up. I like the traditional layout, but the quality is lacking.
    MB - Asus P5E-VM HDMI: A great MicroATX M/B with excellent ability to overclock. Got it openbox from newegg.
    CPU - OEM Q6600 off ebay
    GPU - EVGA 9800GTX+: I wanted a GTX260, but they are too expensive still, the price to power ratio was right for this one. I may "step-up" later.
    HD - Samsung Spinpoint 1TB
    CPU Cooler - NINJA Rev B reused from previous system
    Fans - Scythe Slip Stream 1200 x2
    PSU - Corsair HX520: bought used from hardforum.com
First thing I did was get rid of the crappy plastic feet and put on some aluminum case feet with soft rubber padding bought from performance-pcs.com . Note the dynamat in the second photo. There previous owner put it on, and I left it:
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This case is really flimsy, and makes and unpleasant *twang* when tapped. The previous owner made a little improvement by putting some dynamat xtreme on some of the panels. I left those on as it was too much of a hassle to remove it. I further lined the top, bottom, and left panels with eDead 45 for weight and eDead v4 Teklite for high frequency (http://www.edesignaudio.com). It looks good, and definitely makes the case feel more sturdy. I also lined the right panel m/b tray with the eDead45. I could not put the TekLite on the right panel because the clearance is too tight.
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I built 2 of these like rebellious did in his TJ08 build.
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Pencil-MOD for VDropp. Starting to come together. There is NO place to hide wiring in this place. You cannot run cables behind the mobo try because the rigth panel sits right against a bare used for the mb-tray and strucural integrity. It cannot be dremeled. You have to be creative to made the wiring neat. A modular PSU is a must! BTW, the I/O plate is missing because it was a NewEgg open box mobo, a replacement is coming thanks to ebay:
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Hard drive suspension using Stretch Magic. I had to mod the SATA cable to clear the Ninja. I have a few milimeters of clearance in front and in the rear of the drive. There is piece of the TekLite foam in front of the drive which helps protect the drive a bit when moving the case around:
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Ninja installed. You can see how the HD barely the clears the Ninja, but it does. Actually, the photo makes the clearance look a bit worse than it actually is:
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All done! Ignore the HD's on top of the case, I forgot that I was transferring files from the old drives when I took that picture.
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As for at setup. There are 3 fan headers on the board. 1 PWM for CPU, which I am not using, and 2 case fan headers. Only one header is adjustable by the mobo. The front fan is therefore slowed down to about 760rpms using a Zalman resistor (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... s_id=23976). The rear fan is adjusted by SpeedFan and connected the the CPU core temps. It idles at about 750 rpms also. The GTX9800+ is the loudest component in the case. I plan to upgrade to a S1rev2 when I can. I think I could run it fanless without issues as there is good flow in the case.

The CPU is overclocked to 3.2ghz=400x8 @ 1.27v idle and 1.25-1.26 on load (I am pencil modded). The temps and good, and the system is stable for 24hrs using Prime95.

I am happy :D :D :D

Thanks everyone,
Ross

EDIT: Pics should work now!
Last edited by megarek on Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Post by JamieG » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:01 pm

Pictures aren't working for me...

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Post by baconandeggs » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:04 pm

JamieG wrote:Pictures aren't working for me...
+1

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Post by megarek » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:32 pm

Pics should be working now

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Post by thejamppa » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:41 pm

Very nice and clean build. Silverstone can make awesome aluminium cases, but they require bit effort for killing resonance etc. But from pictures, it clearly is seen, how well worth that is. Case and system is very clean looking.

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Post by xev » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:42 pm

Very nice job making the best of used parts

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Post by ntavlas » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:36 pm

I really like your build, excellent airflow and very clean.

A question: I know I`m missing something, but I noticed that the voltage of the cpu is rather modest. What does the volt mod serve in this case? Better efficiency by not requiring a high voltage setting to compensate for the vdrop?

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Post by megarek » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:20 pm

ntavlas wrote:I really like your build, excellent airflow and very clean.

A question: I know I`m missing something, but I noticed that the voltage of the cpu is rather modest. What does the volt mod serve in this case? Better efficiency by not requiring a high voltage setting to compensate for the vdrop?
You got it exactly. In actuality, the Vcore is set to 1.30. But with CPU-Z, the idle voltage is about 1.27, with a "VDroop" on load of 1.25-1.26. Without the mod, not only would the decrease in idle voltage be greater, but the droop on load would also be much greater, at least 0.05-0.10 if not more. I've tested my CPU, and it will not run Prime95 stable at 8x400=3.2ghz for 24hrs if the voltage is any lower than what I have it set at. What this means is without the pencil mod, I would probably need to set the voltage to at least 1.35 so compensate for the drop in voltage at idle and further drop in voltage on load. With the mod, I can run the Q6600 overclocked at a lower voltage, which lets the CPU run cooler and use less power.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/23960 ... encil-pics
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=103 ... stcount=83

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Post by Fayd » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:26 pm

you know, you could have just gotten a 90 degree SATA connector...

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Post by megarek » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:03 pm

Yes, I COULD have gotten a 90 degree connector, but I would have needed to wait for it come in the mail. So this worked well for me with what I had.
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Ross

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