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Project ZdB (Zero deciBel)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:51 am
by Throttler
Hi all, it's my first post here, but I've been reading this forum like crazy for years.

I finally completed my totally silent pc. Also, I'm displaying it on a PC show in Athens. Please take a look, and any comment welcome. :)

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Pic presentation here

http://pctechnology.gr/vbull/vb/showthread.php?t=50307


Cheers!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:01 pm
by Throttler
p.s. the forum and pics is in Greek, so if in case you need anything to ask please do so by any means.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:05 pm
by Throttler
A sample pic :)

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:07 pm
by Big Pimp Daddy
Well it certainly looks pretty!
Spec would be nice to know, and I saw some temps in the link, but wasn't sure if they were load or idle. I take it that PSU is some form of semi-passive affair? (ie the fan only comes on under load)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:43 pm
by Throttler
Specs are heavy which was a problem.

P6T, i7 920, etc

Temps are at load but underclocked. PSU fan only starts at 65 degrees Celsius, which is seldom to never.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:37 am
by RoGuE
its definately pretty, but you must be doing some serious underclocking to get this thing to behave under load. I'm not fully convined it can handle the temperature though..how long did you torture test it? The max temps are only at steady state or pretty close to steady (after several hours)...

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:49 am
by KadazanPL
There's an actively cooled PSU in there, right? If that's the case, then the setup can't be "zero decibel". It is still impressive, though - I love the hardware by Thermalright. It looks and works great! :)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:53 am
by Throttler
well, it is pretty steady at -25% but anything under that is steady as a rock. to be honest, in real work situations, it is flawless.
I tested several applications, the cpu was at very low load, and I tried some heavy load gaming as well, the temps and usage was higher, but never peaked.
I even tried to kill it. I overclocked it and burned it with Everest system stability test. It chokes the cpu at 100 degrees Celsius.

It is the wrong cpu for this job, and the question temperatures versus speed versus adding a fan remains.

My heart goes to underclocking it at -35%

This means 1733 per core, which is adequate for almost all of what I do.

any opinions welcome!

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:54 am
by Throttler
KadazanPL wrote:There's an actively cooled PSU in there, right? If that's the case, then the setup can't be "zero decibel". It is still impressive, though - I love the hardware by Thermalright. It looks and works great! :)
PSU fan only starts at 65 degrees Celsius, which is seldom to never.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:48 am
by khaakon
A beautiful sight indeed, I totally agree to the statement about Thermalright - soo tempting to go all out with it, like you did. But also there's the cabling and all that really makes it a stunning build.

I wonder, though - wouldn't you get better convection if you could rotate the motherboard 90 degrees, with the cabling coming out on top?

Too bad it's also an impractical solution regards cabling then, and so far i've only seen it on some quite ugly Silverstone Raven cases.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:31 am
by Throttler
khaakon wrote: I wonder, though - wouldn't you get better convection if you could rotate the motherboard 90 degrees, with the cabling coming out on top?
Indeed the heat sources are piling up this way, and as a result, the higher the warmer.
This has two results. One, the cpu is hotter than it should. Two the warm air speeds up to the top exhaust.

If it was rotated 90 degrees, were as you mentioned only raven supports, the heat sources would be less piled up, but the rear or the case doesn't allow as big as exhaust as the top. So, most likely, the result would be similar.

p.s.

since I can post links now... :)

Project ZdB

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:39 am
by RoGuE
Throttler wrote:
It is the wrong cpu for this job, and the question temperatures versus speed versus adding a fan remains.
Well, at least you admit it. Running this cpu so underclocked and fanless, is like pulling a trailer with a porsche. Sure it has the muscle to move it, but your holding it back so much. If you didn't need the power to begin with, you shoulda gone for a C2D or even a low powered quad

woulda had the same end result and for a lot cheaper

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:44 am
by Rebellious
What is the purpose of wrapping the PSU wires individually?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:05 pm
by Throttler
RoGuE wrote:
Throttler wrote:
It is the wrong cpu for this job, and the question temperatures versus speed versus adding a fan remains.
Well, at least you admit it. Running this cpu so underclocked and fanless, is like pulling a trailer with a porsche. Sure it has the muscle to move it, but your holding it back so much. If you didn't need the power to begin with, you shoulda gone for a C2D or even a low powered quad

woulda had the same end result and for a lot cheaper
Indeed, I had the E8200 which was perfect for this purpose, but I sold it all together, and thought it would be a chance to move to i7. I usually consume less than half the horsepower. I liked the Porsche example :)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:07 pm
by Throttler
Rebellious wrote:What is the purpose of wrapping the PSU wires individually?
Mostly looks. It's also easier to arrange them in the back of the motherboard tray, thus gaining some airflow upwards.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:52 am
by mark19891989
it does look very nice , it does seem kind of a waste to have a exensive cpu like that to run it that slow, having the e8*00 would of been better suited,

still, nice job, and it looks excellent

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:47 pm
by RoGuE
Throttler wrote:
Rebellious wrote:What is the purpose of wrapping the PSU wires individually?
Mostly looks. It's also easier to arrange them in the back of the motherboard tray, thus gaining some airflow upwards.
i really dig the individual cable sleeving. The 20+4 pin connector wires reminded me of the "sentinals" from the Matrix movies! haha

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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:29 pm
by Throttler
mark19891989 wrote:it does look very nice , it does seem kind of a waste to have a exensive cpu like that to run it that slow, having the e8*00 would of been better suited,

still, nice job, and it looks excellent
Thnx :) Indeed, the e8*00 series would be better. I don't have an issue though in real work situations :) The cpu underclocks and overclocks automatically, so all is well :D

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:30 pm
by Throttler
RoGuE wrote: i really dig the individual cable sleeving. The 20+4 pin connector wires reminded me of the "sentinals" from the Matrix movies! haha
Never thought of it this way :) nice!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:55 am
by new2spcr
Throttler wrote:A sample pic :)
It is truly beautiful... I'm drooling!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:15 am
by NeilBlanchard
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As was mentioned, with the fan in the PSU this cannot be silent / 0dBA. Is it quiet?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:38 am
by FartingBob
NeilBlanchard wrote: As was mentioned, with the fan in the PSU this cannot be silent / 0dBA. Is it quiet?
The PSU he uses doesnt start the fan until the temp of the PSU reaches a certain threshold. So under normal usage it will have no fans running.
I must say, the system looks absolutely fantastic. Im not normally one for pimping the insides of my case, but if i had the money and time to do something like this i certainly would.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:23 am
by Throttler
NeilBlanchard wrote: As was mentioned, with the fan in the PSU this cannot be silent / 0dBA. Is it quiet?
Hi Neil,

This is the link to the psu, you will find your answers :)

http://www.nesteq.net/gb/products/power ... index.html

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:49 am
by frenchie
Nice. Really nice.

Also, cool specs for the PSU.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:58 am
by frostedflakes
This is like geek porn. Nothing cooler looking than a case full of Thermalright hardware. :D

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:53 am
by Throttler
Glad you like it :D
ZDB won 4th place in a modding contest, so I'm happy :D

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:11 pm
by colm
stack effect, excellent. I utilize this too, but never called it that.

Rather comically, if the world stuck to atx standard, that is exactly the effect it uses.

I see an opening half way up, that may be a negative effect. Very nice system however. :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:34 pm
by Throttler
colm wrote:stack effect, excellent. I utilize this too, but never called it that.

Rather comically, if the world stuck to atx standard, that is exactly the effect it uses.

I see an opening half way up, that may be a negative effect. Very nice system however. :)
Hi there,

In theory, stack effect applies to larger closed spaces like multiple floor buildings etc. What I tried to do is see how it works on a small scale.

Your observation on the opening is very correct. However, since at that point the pressure is neutral and the top opening is so big, the half way up hole doesn't cause so much trouble. I intend to close it too though.

Thanx for the comment!

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:27 pm
by rhys j
What graphics card is that in it?
Does the memory need all those cooling fins or is it just for looks?
What's the heatsink on the bottom-right of the motherboard for?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:38 pm
by Throttler
rhys j wrote:What graphics card is that in it?
Does the memory need all those cooling fins or is it just for looks?
What's the heatsink on the bottom-right of the motherboard for?
1. A humble 9500
2. Both
3. Cooling the Southbridge.