Yesterday's NOSEDIVE!!

unregistered · Post by **unregistered** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:33 pm

#638 did it to me. NADA ZIP=ZERO

We are not the only team to drop off the chart yesterday.

Anybody else have an excuse/theory?

NADA ZIP yesterday=much better today 4 me

Macaholic · Post by **Macaholic** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:13 pm

p638 got everybody. This is the third time around for this protein and FINALLY the Pande Group is taking notice. OC-AMD said that they are looking closer at this sTinker and an adjustment will be forthcoming. Of course it is not retroactive, but at least they FINALLY realized we all are not just 'whistling Dixie'. Siemper Fold!

PS - link is http://forum.folding-community.org/view ... 6&start=75

mas92264 · Post by **mas92264** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:11 pm

Got p638'd here, too. Last nite, I had 10 or more of them boogers.

Looks like they'll be done in a day of so - hopefully.

M

Michael_qrt · Post by **Michael_qrt** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:59 pm

I've had two 638s on my machine in the last week but that was a few days ago. In the time everyone was picking up 638s I got a 680!

Bout time I had some luck with work units I suppose.

shathal · Post by **shathal** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:59 pm

Fluffing hell, these critters take long.

p638 = not a friend.

What do we get for it at the moment - really not a single point?

CoolGav · Post by **CoolGav** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:26 am

Yep, picked up a few 638's, but my real performance issues are with the heat in the UK the last few days. And then that I blew up a motherboard and a boot hard drive croaked on another PC. Somehow the 15th ended okay, but today looks to have CoolGav's SPCR points as a nice round number...

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:41 am

shathal wrote:Fluffing hell, these critters take long.

p638 = not a friend.

What do we get for it at the moment - really not a single point?

They are worth 128 points, but take nearly as long as some proteins worth almost twice as much. There have been lots of people complaining that this project is not worth the appropriate number of points, but until now, the Pande Group have had their head in the sand.

Thanks for the link Macaholic.

David

trodas · Post by **trodas** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:55 am

Current Work Unit
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Name: p638_L939_K12M_ext
Download time: June 14 12:48:57
Due time: July 21 12:48:57
Progress: 89% [||||||||__]

...damn...

I wish I have already faster machine or something

I have to upgrade even the folding server to something more respectable that slow AXP2800+

And it also should run all the day, not just about 8 hours, eh...

Fold on!

haysdb · Post by **haysdb** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:32 am

I think we should get some relief from the p638's in a few days. Not that they will go away, but at least they should be worth the time it takes to do them.

The guy who said he was deleting them pissed me off, but you know, that's what it took to get The Pande folks to DO SOMETHING about it, because I do not believe they ever would have otherwise. Sad but true. They won't do the right thing for the right reasons, but they will do the right thing for the wrong reasons. Or something like that.

David

trodas · Post by **trodas** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:45 am

Let hope so...

I also noticed, with my new slow replacement mobo burn-in crash-often process, that each time it crash, the WU was aborted and send back and I get a new one.
Makes me sad and wasted many my work

...is not there are any switch like "-fold on, im sure the crash is my fault and not yours" ...

Probably not, at least not right now...

Michael_qrt · Post by **Michael_qrt** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:46 am

As unbalanced as these work units are, remember that it has always been this way. All tinkers were worth 71 points before and gave about half the ppd of the average gromac. Now, in my experience at least, the bad tinkers give about 75-80% of the ppd of the average gromac and the good tinkers give something like 150-160% of the ppd. This is with an athlon however and I know the work units are benchmarked on a P4 so there will be some discrepancies.

If they make the p638 work units worth around 170-180 points they will be about equal to normal gromacs units on my machine. If they make them worth 200+ then I'm hoping for tinkers tinkers tinkers.