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It's time again, what folds for you?

Post by Michael_qrt » Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:54 am

I feel that enough time has passed since the last thread of this type for me to start another one. So what sort of firepower do you have folding for you?

My main machine is an athlon xp2500+ (stock speeds at the moment) but it is usually on 24/7.
I also have an intermittently on xp1700+ , which is a paly and hence far slower than my main folder.


I just feel with the recent increase in production by both ourselves and our rivals, and the arrival of some new high production members to our team that it's the right time for this thread.

If you don't, then consider it the indulgence of a folder just reaching his 1 year anniversary for team SPCR and the F@H project :).
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Post by Tibors » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:47 am

  • Hush: C3 Nehemia 1GHz; 512MB DDR266; Windows 2000 Prof => Approx. 17 PPD(avg)
  • Green: P4 Northwood 2.8GHz; 512MB DDR333 (single channel); Windows XP Prof => Approx. 103 PPD(avg)
  • Red: P4 Prescott 3.0GHz; 2x256MB DDR400 (dual channel); Windows 2000 Prof => Approx. 102 PPD(avg)
The average PPD is excluding the bonus for big WU's. All three machines run 24/7. The P4's run only one instance of F@H, as that is prefered by Stanford.

What I don't understand is why Red produces less than Green does. Looking at the hardware it should produce more. The suspect is the operating system. WinXP is said to handle hyperthreading better than Win2k.

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P.S. If your contribution to F@H is only as low as that of my Hush, then you are still important for the project. Remember a lot of small ones, make one big one. The people in this thread listing 5+ machines are just more nuts than you are ;)
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Post by WoodsBoy » Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:11 am

My little troop consists of the following:

BWU = Big Work Units ie. 600ptrs
RWU = Regular Work Unit

Main Rig: A64-3000+ (24x7 BWU)
CeleronD 2.5Ghz (24x7 BWU)
P4-2.8 Ghz (2 instances 24x7 1-BWU 1-RWU) < wont handle 2 BWU
AXP-1900 Pally (24x7 BWU)
P4-1.4 (24x7 RWU)
P4-1.4 (24x7 RWU)
P4-1.8 (24x7 RWU)
Celeron 2.0 (not 24x7 runs timeless)
AXP-2500 Notebook (24x7 RWU)

Hoping to add another P4-2.8 sometime. I've turned in close to 2000pts in a single day with this little troop if I get several of the 600ptrs turned in at the same time.
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5 machines...

Post by NeilBlanchard » Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:18 am

Hello:

I have five machines. Here they are in descending order of speed:

Athlon 64 3200+ 1GB [It is quieter, now!] 24/7, though it is used ~40 hours a week. Good for 200-300 PPD

Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) 2100+ @ 2gHz, 512MB 24/7 used while I am at home. About 100-200 PPD

Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) 2100+ @ 1.92gHz 1GB -- Folding about 50% of the time 50-100 PPD

Athlon Classic 700 384MB, running 24/7, used while my wife is at home 40-80 PPD?

AMD K6/3-400 with 256MB, running 24/7, used by my kids playing cool games in Linspire -- this one is good for *maybe* 20- 30 PPD...

Current PPD is ~440, and PPW is ~2100
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Post by Box » Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:35 am

I have just one machine running:
athlon XP 2600+ (Barton): only 5 days a week, usually all day. No idea how many PPD...
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Post by nici » Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:22 am

Athlon XP 2600+(Thoroughbred) at 2300mHz
(200x11.5), 512+256+256Mb DDR soon to be 2x512 400mHz. Its running 24/7 unless i do some modifying on it when its restarted very often and i lose WUs.. Thats why i only overclock/ try to silence it when i have jsut finished a WU. I seem to get only 600 pointers, well one 340pt, for the last few weeks. But it usually takes two to three days for one WU i think.. Cant really remember :lol:

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Post by wooglin » Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:01 am

Pentium 3.06GHz Northwood, 1gig of ram, running 1 instance of Big WU's at 100% (50% actual) and 1 instance of Small WU's at 90% (40% actual), running 24/7, shared a few hours per day with PVR duties. I know Stanford recommends against running 2 instances, but one will only use max 50% of CPU.

Pentium Mobile 1.9GHz Laptop, 512meg ram, running 1 instance of Big WU's 24/7, rarely used for anything else unless I need to go out of town.

Athlon 1GHz, 384meg ram, running 1 instance of Small WU's, runs 24/7, only used for web/email/occasional gaming.

3 Pentium 3's running Small WU's. 800MHz running 24/7, 450MHz running 24/7 and 400MHz running 10/5.

Last week I managed 3300 points, which I think might have been a fluke. We'll see what happens this week.
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Post by peteamer » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:12 am

XP2400+ 512meg 24/7

XP1600+ 256meg ~120Hours a week.

Both on big WU's

Any where between 900-1600 PPW for the pair.

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Post by x1m » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:49 am

One 2500+ @ 2.2ghz (3200+), Only seems to turn out 1200ppw :(
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Post by teknerd » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:32 am

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Post by JanW » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:51 am

Only two systems here (both are on 24/7 - unless I'm trying to silence them further :D ):

Box 1: XP2500+@185MHzx11, 1GB (24/7)
Box 2: XP3200+@200MHzx11, 1.5GB (24/7)

Average PPD is about the same for both, since the 2500+ is idle most of the time, the XP3200 is not.

EDIT: added memory
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Post by Michael_qrt » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:09 am

THat's quite a collection of folders some of you guys have working for you. Machines spanning several generations and upgrade cycles.

Anyway one thing I have noticed is that although I thought my xp1700 palomino supported SSE it is around 4 times slower than my xp2500 on gromacs units. For example the p1141 600 pointer that it's working at the moment is reportin consistently around 270 hours while not in use for the almost 3 hours it takes to complete a frame.

On Tinkers on the other hand it is about 2/3 to 1/2 of the speed of the 2500+. Can someone confirm for me that all palomino cpus perform this way. I mean it's like SSE is off but the client claims that "SSE boost OK".

Anyway, I should take this machine off of the big units. Though it never seems to get any tinkers anyway. My guess is because it has a low performance fraction or something like that. It's only ever gotten a few of the tinkers over the last year.

Anywy, this game is all about sticking too it. I may be able to add another new athlon64 in the next few months that my brother will be getting. THat should finally boost me a bit up the rankings again :)
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Post by tomcat » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:37 pm

Here are my troops:

Hobbes: AMD64 3200+ at 2.4Ghz (Main Work Machine,on during the day)
Zeus: AMD XP-M 2500+ at 2.4Ghz (24/7) Water Cooled
Matador: AMD XP 2600+ at 2.3Ghz (24/7) Water Cooled
Hammer: AMD XP 2500+ at 2.2Ghz (on during the day)
Poseidon: Intel P4 2.4 at 3.1Ghz (24/7) Water Cooled
Zen: Intel P4 2.4Ghz (24/7)
Thor: Dual Intel Xeon 2.4Ghz (24/7) Water Cooled
Thaddeus: Intel P4 2.8Ghz (24/7)

under construction: another AMD64 3200+

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Post by Michael_qrt » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:41 pm

No wonder you're turning so many points tomcat. That is a lot of folding power!

I know that the p4s used to be faster at folding gromacs work units than the athlon xps. I wonder how that balance has changed since the introduction of the big work units? Since you have several of each type of machine and some A64s I wonder if you could tell us how things might have changed tomcat.
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Post by burcakb » Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:45 am

Thor: Athlon64 3000+ + 1 Gb doing 260 PPD on big WUs
Loki: AthlonXP 2500+ (@ 1925 MHz) + 1Gb doing 100 PPD on small WUs
Odin: AthlonXP 2000+ (Palomino) + 512Mb doing 140 PPD on big WUs

All machines on 24/7, Thor gets used a lot so it's more like 200 PPD for most of the waking hours.
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Post by kma » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:20 am

I'm just new to folding..
I have a XP1700+ palomino, 2x256MB
Recently finished my first unit (600p gromacs, p1140), 34% on my second p1140..
It needs 1 hour per frame. Say SSE boost OK.

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Post by burcakb » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:38 am

kma,

WELCOME TO SPCR!!! and TO THE FOLD !!!
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Post by kma » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:08 am

Thankx!!

Found a lot of valuable silencing info here... and the link to Folding@Home :D

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Post by tay » Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:22 pm

Just started folding on this :
p3 coppermine @ 735. Lets hope it doesnt heat up and explode, as the machine is sitting in a closet with the PSU and 80mm exhaust fan at 5v. *crosses fingers*. I have a P3 866 dual cpu board just sitting around looking for a home. Once I get another case I should be able to put that to work provided this one works out ok.
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Post by Viper » Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:51 pm

Only one pc, and it only folds when i'm on it so nearly all day, but not 24/7 I couldnt afford so have it on 24/7 plus it's next to my bed and even though it's quietish it still disturbs me, anyway i'm helping atleast. :wink:
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Post by peteamer » Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:05 pm

Viper wrote:i'm helping
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Post by unregistered » Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:50 pm

XP 2800 24/7 1G PC 3200

XP 2600 M (45w) 24/7 1G PC2700


2800 is smooth sailing on the 600 poiters, the mobile will overclock and put out as much and more tha the 2800(super quiet*) but it is having problems with the 600 pointers. I am underclocking it right now to narrow down the "culprit". Does Prime 95/Memtest, but not the 600 Point tinkers. :(

PPW :?: I just go by EOC, you can too, scroll down to #51.



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Post by Michael_qrt » Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:14 pm

kma wrote:I'm just new to folding..
I have a XP1700+ palomino, 2x256MB
Recently finished my first unit (600p gromacs, p1140), 34% on my second p1140..
It needs 1 hour per frame. Say SSE boost OK.
So then, what's wrong with my palomino xp1700+? it has 2x256MB and is on a gigabyte KT266A chipset board. It takes about 2.5 hours to finish a frame of the 600 point work units in the best case scenario where it isn't used at all. I've checked in the task manager and folding is getting 99% of the cpu time, what could possibly be leading to this poor level of performance?

BTW it's running winXP pro.


Unregistered, from what I've read prime and memtest are not good enough to gaurentee folding stability with the big work units. I think there is a tool which is better suited which tests SSE stability. Do a search on the forums, I htink it was mentioned recently.
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Post by unregistered » Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:10 pm

Michael_qrt do you have SSE enabled?

Right now I am leaning towards PC 2700 can't handle what the rest of the system is putting out. My latest underclock may tell :?: :?: . It takes much time to "test" theory because I am completing over 100/250 sometimes. That takes a day or so and then I get a 300 pointer and that takes a day or so.........I will be posting my "findings" in that 600 pt gromac thread I started a while back.


I forgot to mention my "borg" a compaq 1.1 gig, ME, part time timeless tinker folding very part time, in between restore disk routines, about 15 PPW. :lol: every bit helps!!!!!!!

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Post by unregistered » Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:16 pm

AND peteamer I hope you have permission from your teachers and parents to fold on those computers. :roll: :idea: Why don't you talk some of the other children in your class into folding? :twisted: :twisted: :D

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Post by kma » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:24 pm

For what it is worth..

I'm using win2k sp4, my palomino sits in a Abit KD7 (VIA KT400) with Core@1.65V

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Post by Michael_qrt » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:48 pm

I won't have access to the machine in question untill at least the weekend but the logs say that the SSE boost is ok, so I assume SSE is enabled.I'll do some more testing with it on the weekend if I can.

Can anyone recomend some good diagnostic utilities for folding performance? I might also chase up that SSE tester for myself.
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Post by tomcat » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:24 am

>I know that the p4s used to be faster at folding gromacs work units than the athlon xps. I wonder how that balance has changed since the introduction of he big work units? Since you have several of each type of machine and some A64s I wonder if you could tell us how things might have changed tomcat.

Michael,

most of my troops fold the big units. The AMD XPs do around 250PPD. The P4 at 3.1Ghz does 310PPD with 2 fah instances. The new AMD64 3200+ at 2.5Ghz does 311PPD. I think the A64 are good folders :)

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Post by Michael_qrt » Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:39 am

Good to hear that the A64s are matching the p4s now, since I may be able to add one in the next few months. I wonder if it's the addition of SSE2 to the A64 that's changed things, since memory performance dosn't seem to affect folding much and that is the main advantage of the A64 over the AXP.

On another note I tried running 3D mark2k1 on the slow 1700+ and it scored less than I remember when the comp was last updated. And 3D mark is reporting that the cpu has no L2 cache, which is weird. Anyone have any thoughts?
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Post by DryFire » Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:26 pm

I have an A64 3000@ 2.4ghz folding. However it's not 24/7 yet due to my very noisy wd hd.

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