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Post by wussboy » Fri May 16, 2003 6:51 am

aristide1 wrote:I feel the Dark Side tempting me as we speak.
What to do?
:?
I say give in and let's go get us some Ewok burgers!

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Post by Zhentar » Fri May 16, 2003 9:15 am

give in to the dark side! all your money are belong to us!

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Post by Jefferelli » Fri May 16, 2003 9:43 am

Looks like everyone has already put alot of time into it. I will try to recruit a few more people. -Jeff

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Post by aristide1 » Sat May 17, 2003 5:56 am

Rusty is about to become #2 in the team, and the team is about to take position 73. Whooohooo :!:

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Post by Athlon Powers » Sat May 17, 2003 10:43 am

wussboy wrote::shudder:

So what's with these Knights who so recently said "Ni"? Now they're gonna pass us in July! I'm not encouraging any hackers here to crash their computers, but I do have a $50 bill in an envelope waiting to be addressed to someone...
Monty Python and the Holy Grail! Great movie, you should watch it...

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Post by Rusty075 » Sat May 17, 2003 9:07 pm

One of the classics.


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Post by aristide1 » Tue May 20, 2003 4:54 am

We're 68 now, burning up the ranks.

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Post by MikeC » Tue May 20, 2003 7:35 am

aristide1 wrote:We're 68 now, burning up the ranks.
And yet The Knights Who Say Ni! are gaining on us. They're set to pass us on June 10 now, according to folding.extremeoverclocking.com and that date keeps moving up -- it was Sept at one point. I guess without increasing our production another 25-30% to match theirs, their passing us is inevitable. :? To stave off the inevtable, I added a couple more machines to the farm. :roll:

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Post by aristide1 » Tue May 20, 2003 7:47 am

Have you noticed the points for the groups who's rank are in the top 50? We'll have our work cut out for us to get there. After that going up the ranks is really going to slow down. But I never expected to be in the top 10 anyway.

Finishing up a beast today.

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Post by aristide1 » Tue May 20, 2003 11:15 am

Wow, I got 69 points for my latest work unit, I got like 21 for the 1st.

The team recorded 7 WUs in the last hour.

Ugh, they sent me another beast again. :x
To stave off the inevtable, I added a couple more machines to the farm.
As long as people are running machines farms that OK.
Not like The Matrix. Just keep an eye on them.
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Post by aristide1 » Tue May 20, 2003 11:33 am

You mean I should drop my FSB from 133 to 66MHz just during the benchmark, that's pretty funny. You still do work so your "dirty" aspect is just in the numbers, so I think it's still ethical, in a bad boy sort of way.

OK, that explains why I started getting this beasts. It started right after my cpu upgrade from a 800 to a 1.2GHz processor.

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Post by wussboy » Tue May 20, 2003 12:47 pm

So that's how they choose, eh? They must be wildly optimistic about my computer. The WUs they send me generally take most of the 3 days allowed to complete, with the computer only being off 8 hours a night (for sleep. The thing makes a hellish racket).

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Post by aristide1 » Tue May 20, 2003 1:05 pm

Almost 3 days? I need 80 hours straight, without interruption. We're talking 3.5 days, and that's if I don't play Diamond Mine.

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Post by dukla2000 » Tue May 20, 2003 3:52 pm

aristide1 wrote:Almost 3 days? I need 80 hours straight, without interruption. We're talking 3.5 days, and that's if I don't play Diamond Mine.
Have you set -advmethods -forceasm? My laptop - mobile P3 1.2 - is running over 40 points/day as long as I can keep it on the Gromacs. -advmethods makes you a 'volunteer' for Gromacs, and -forceasm ensures the SSE is used when you get one. With these settings and on Gromacs this P3 is a bit better than my Thunderbird 1.4: when it gets a Tinker the P3 can't pull the skin off a milk pudding.

ps -just checked your stats: that 70 pointer is Tinker. Last Tinker I had on my P3 was circa 20 points in 36 hours: it really is worth getting on to Gromacs if you have a Pentium with SSE.

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Post by ez2remember » Tue May 20, 2003 4:12 pm

This is whats wierd, it use to fold a lot quicker. A very common 400 WU would take approximately about 1.5 days before. Now it takes about 2.5 days.

This is for a p4 1.8A.

It does not seem to be working as hard as before, where the CPU temps peaks and stays constant at 55oC. Now it's about 52-3oC and yes ambient temperture is pretty consistent.

My comp has become a lazy folder..

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Post by aristide1 » Tue May 20, 2003 4:24 pm

ps -just checked your stats: that 70 pointer is Tinker. Last Tinker I had on my P3 was circa 20 points in 36 hours: it really is worth getting on to Gromacs if you have a Pentium with SSE.
I think I just got another Tinker, I can tell because it's the same number as before, just a different clone number.

How do I change the settings when I am running the CLI version?

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Post by dukla2000 » Tue May 20, 2003 4:49 pm

aristide1 wrote:How do I change the settings when I am running the CLI version?
Is the CLI the 'recommended for all Windows versions' thing? Anyway, I think IIRC you can just add them to the command line as parameters. Then next time when you start, you should see them in the log (FAHlog.txt). They only influence things on your next work unit though.

I went to the 'no-nonsense text console' a while back with Electron Microscope: somebody said the text console may be a tad quicker, and EM gives you plenty of bells & whistles. You can change to the console version in mid-WU if you want.

And you can see what your work units are here.

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Post by Wrah » Wed May 21, 2003 12:50 am

Just create a shortcut to winfah.exe, and add the parameters to the command line. Simple as that.

And I still doubt the text console being faster, the core is the same for both. Just don't keep the graphical client full screen with a fast drawing rate set, that's a waste of cpu cycles. And so is any fancy screensaver btw, just set it to put your monitor on standby.

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Post by aristide1 » Wed May 21, 2003 7:22 am

This is for a p4 1.8A.
I hope you set your BIOS to a 133MHz FSB, so that your 1.8A looks like a 2.4GHz. That's going to be my next upgrade.

I was wrong, Rusty has his work cut out for him if he wants to be #2 on out team. Glad I don't have his electric bill. PS efficiency is a big deal at his place.

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Post by ez2remember » Wed May 21, 2003 9:26 am

aristide1 wrote:
This is for a p4 1.8A.
I hope you set your BIOS to a 133MHz FSB, so that your 1.8A looks like a 2.4GHz. That's going to be my next upgrade.

I was wrong, Rusty has his work cut out for him if he wants to be #2 on out team. Glad I don't have his electric bill. PS efficiency is a big deal at his place.
Overclock?

Nah, I am looking to undervolt as much as possible. I have overclocked it to 2.4 and it was stable but temps rose a couple of degrees.

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Post by MikeC » Wed May 21, 2003 12:47 pm

You realize we're at 63-64 depending on which dataset you look at? And judging from extremeoverclocking.com, we'll reach ~50 some time in early June, mybe the 10th. By which time the Ni Knights will have sailed past. :roll:

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Post by dukla2000 » Wed May 21, 2003 1:18 pm

Yeah - we are fair flying through the 60s - didn't even have time to post while we were on 69 :D

Our current weekly output (27233) and daily (4081) has us 26th, I think the pain wil start when we get to 40th though. (Play with the java versions here.

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Post by Wrah » Wed May 21, 2003 2:00 pm

And our rate still keeps increasing, even in the safest prediction. Some big folders have joined (judging by my also increasing list of threats :roll:).

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Post by DaShiv » Wed May 21, 2003 4:18 pm

Yeah, I remember the good old days when I actually had some personal conquests to look forward to... hehe. Of course we weren't ranked so highly back then!

Nowadays I check to make sure I haven't dropped down to 40 or so on our team rankings while I wasn't looking. :)

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Post by aristide1 » Wed May 21, 2003 4:45 pm

I have overclocked it to 2.4 and it was stable but temps rose a couple of degrees.
Eh, what's a couple of degrees amoungst friends?

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Post by rpc180 » Wed May 21, 2003 4:56 pm

it looks like 30th or so. It's a pity to have peaked at 22 or so and now just keep getting passed without any real conquests to look forward to. Dammit.
Courage Radeonman! On the single processor people we're actually in the top 10 :)

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Post by DaShiv » Thu May 22, 2003 8:06 pm

Radeonman: I peaked at #10 on the team list and am now am falling steadily (will drop out of the top 20 before the month's end). Just my single-processor silent gaming rig folding, too, when I'm not playing. There's no way people like us can compete with either the folding farm people or the people with admin access to networks. C'est la vie. :)

As long as research is getting done, our team rank is going up, and my computer stays silent, it's all good. :)

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