Socket 939 dual-core CPUs, why so expensive?

RaptorZX3 · Post by **RaptorZX3** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:34 pm

i checked on Ebay recently cos i wanted to get a faster CPU for my now discontinued socket (Socket 939), i wanted to get the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (Toledo core) and i've found that they are very expensive...

apart of the somewhat "rarity" of the part...why so many peoples still want to pay more for a discontinued socket? i mean...it still run on DDR400, not DDR2...

Strid · Post by **Strid** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:56 pm

Wow, didn't know they were so expensive! I just sold my old FX-60 + motherboard + 2 GB RAM for approx $90. I guess I should have eBay'ed that.

Only reason I can really see is some business who just want to replace a broken CPU or something. I can't see any consumer paying that much for outdated technology. Must be the old supply&demand conundrum .. and since they're not manufactured anymore price goes up.

So yeah! Really weird!

RaptorZX3 · Post by **RaptorZX3** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:25 pm

so should i sell my old Asus Geforce 7600GT Silent 256mb PCIe at a higher price?

well, in time, i might change the usual stuff (board+cpu+RAM) in my computer when needed, hoping my Scythe Ninja and Thermalright HR-05 will also fit on the newer board too...

Trav1s · Post by **Trav1s** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:49 pm

I would guess their demand is tied to the mess of good OC nForce mobos that were produced during the 939 era. Why change a good thing?

AZBrandon · Post by **AZBrandon** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:51 pm

Funny you should mention it, since I own an S939 Opteron 185. I upgraded to the 185 about 18 months ago for maybe $280? I sold the 2.2 Ghz 3700+ (single core) for $10 or something on ebay and was astonished to see that my 185 is still fetching $200+ on ebay if you include the mobo and 2gb of RAM, like I was planning to do. I could basically upgrade to an Intel E8400, mobo, and 4gb of ram for $100 after rebate and selling my old setup. It's crazy how much people are still willing to pay for what should be obsolete junk, by all accounts.

m0002a · Post by **m0002a** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:51 pm

The new ones are expensive, but if you get a used one they are very cheap.

RaptorZX3 · Post by **RaptorZX3** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:17 pm

well not THAT obsolete, maybe the "2-3 years old" obsolete stuff.

you know i found some old crap in the junk 2 weeks ago, old AT computers with old EDO ram sticks, old 4mb video cards, an old Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA!

that's the kind of junk no one want to buy even if it's 5$ a piece

QuietOC · Post by **QuietOC** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:55 pm

RaptorZX3 wrote:apart of the somewhat "rarity" of the part...why so many peoples still want to pay more for a discontinued socket? i mean...it still run on DDR400, not DDR2...

You can make money buying the last/highest released CPUs for dead end sockets. Someone a few years ago was really glad to buy a 1.2GHz Tualatin Celeron and a 440BX motherboard from me--maybe it was the ISA slots.

RaptorZX3 · Post by **RaptorZX3** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:32 pm

what i really want to find is the 3DO Blaster, it's a big ISA card that enables you to play 3DO games on your PC, it originally come with a cdrom drive, softwares and a controller

AZBrandon · Post by **AZBrandon** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:50 am

RaptorZX3 wrote:well not THAT obsolete, maybe the "2-3 years old" obsolete stuff.

you know i found some old crap in the junk 2 weeks ago, old AT computers with old EDO ram sticks, old 4mb video cards, an old Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA!

that's the kind of junk no one want to buy even if it's 5$ a piece

I know, if it was obsolete junk, then it wouldn't be going for $200 on ebay. After all, the main reason I haven't upgraded is that my system isn't really that much slower than a dual core Intel system would be anyway. I did try to sell my old USR Courier V.Anything (USR's marketing term) modem for $0.99 on ebay in the spring and it never got even a single bid. Nobody wants ISA modems anymore, even if they were top of the line 10 years ago. Top of the line 2 years ago still fetches a lot more money than top of the line 10 years ago I suppose.

tehcrazybob · Post by **tehcrazybob** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:11 am

The old parts for any recently-abandoned socket get expensive. It's because many people already have a motherboard and don't want to change it, but still want to upgrade their processor. Buying an overpriced 939 processor is still cheaper than replacing your motherboard, processor, and RAM, and considerably easier than reinstalling your OS because you've switched motherboards.

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:26 pm

1x De-lidded Socket 939 3800+ X2 $40 shipped

Pfff... ebay, who needs it?

Too bad you're in Canada, I don't know if people generally are willing to ship outside the States.

RaptorZX3 · Post by **RaptorZX3** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:14 pm

well most do, but some won't because they simply hate Canada

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:42 am

Look around FS/FT forums, I'm sure you'll find something cheaper.

Strid · Post by **Strid** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:56 am

RaptorZX3 wrote:well not THAT obsolete, maybe the "2-3 years old" obsolete stuff.

you know i found some old crap in the junk 2 weeks ago, old AT computers with old EDO ram sticks, old 4mb video cards, an old Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA!

that's the kind of junk no one want to buy even if it's 5$ a piece

Nice sound card, man. I remember my friend having and AWE32 many years ago. We were like

that is soo cool. Still remember my first PCI sound card. I'm glad I'm not the only one keeping old hardware like memories of good old times. Sort of photo-album style, just with less WAF.

AZBrandon · Post by **AZBrandon** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:25 am

RaptorZX3 wrote:well most do, but some won't because they simply hate Canada

In one of my ebay auctions, it cost me 2x as much to ship to Canada as it did to ship across the USA. There's some kind of import tax to ship even very inexpensive goods to Canada. After that auction I marked all of my ebay auctions as USA only. I had to fill out a bunch of extra paperwork for the Canadian shipping too. Totally not worth it for anything under $250 imho.

Olle P · Post by **Olle P** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:28 am

Yeah, I did get on this band wagon at just the wrong time.

Wanted to upgrade my computer, opting for an AMD CPU. I realised I'd have to replace CPU, motherboard and RAM as well as getting a new graphics card (switching from AGP to PCIe). That would cost some money, and to cut the initial expenses I wanted to first get a low-mid CPU, with the intention of replacing it with a faster one 12-18 months later.

What socket should I pick?
At the time the very first AM2 motherboards were just hitting the market and AMD had warned that one of the older sockets (754 and 939) was going to be discontinued, which one to be announced later on.
Since AM2 was new and unproven, I didn't feel like jumping on that train just yet. Socket 754 seemed very old, and so I thought that one would be discontinued. Therefore I bought a socket 939 motherboard with an Athlon64 3800+ CPU.

Within a few weeks AMD announced that 939 was to be discontinued while 754 would be retained for a while, supporting Sempron CPUs.

Roughly half a year after my purchase I noticed that 939 CPUs were being phased out from the stores, so I had to decide quickly whether to upgrade with a new CPU on the spot, or not upgrade at all. I decided to go for a new CPU, and managed after some trouble to get my hands on one of the few remaining new Athlon64X2 4600+ at a decent price.

That one still serves me well, and I've only upgraded the computer since by adding more RAM (2GB extra to the 1GB installed).

Cheers
Olle

m0002a · Post by **m0002a** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:44 am

RaptorZX3 wrote:well most do, but some won't because they simply hate Canada

I had two experiences with Canadian buyers on ebay. The first was that I went to the FedEx Ground and UPS websites and found that it would cost $20 extra to ship to Canada. The Canadian potential buyer did not win the auction, so I didn't have to deal with that, although I spend a couple of hours researching it.

The other was an $80 item I sold and was able to ship via Priority Mail. Shipping costs were a little more, and the buyer paid the extra charge. But when I deposited the Canadian Postal Money Order in my bank, I got charged a $5 fee even though the check was drawn in US dollars, because they did not have that bank registered in their computers (one of the 5 largest banks in the US).

RaptorZX3 · Post by **RaptorZX3** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:18 pm

i had no problem buying stuff from USA though, i always ask them if they can send to Canada and most of the time they say yes.

I wonder why post offices hate Canada so much.

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