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What happened to cpemma & http://www.cpemma.co.uk ??

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:46 pm
by MikeC
What happened to cpemma & http://www.cpemma.co.uk ??

He was a regular forum contributor from 2003 onward, and his site was an oft-linked valuable resource. Not only has he not posted since 17 Jan 2009 but now his site is offline.

If anyone knows, please share.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:49 pm
by AuraAllan
I have no idea what is going on.

I wanted to use the site earlier today but unfortunately it's not available anymore.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:30 pm
by psiu
My cyber-stalking hasn't turned much up:

http://forums.bit-tech.net/member.php?u=601 <--last activity April 11, he's a moderator with over 12K posts as well
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/member.php?u=5372 <-- last activity dec 21, and he had lots of posts there

Last activity on hardforums was last September.

http://whois.domaintools.com/cpemma.co.uk <--it's registered into next year...trying a name search doesn't do much

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:43 am
by high5
Sorry to bump the thread, but has anyone gained some info on the subject?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:58 pm
by andyb
I have never even heard of this website, and I have no idea of whats even about. The fact that people have 12,000 + posts on its forums suggest that it was around for a long time, and unless the website was doing something illegal or has been hacked they rarely disapear with no advance warning.


Andy

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:19 pm
by MikeC
http://www.cpemma.co.uk/ provided very clear directions and info on all kinds of practical ways to control the speed of fans -- with resistors, diodes, VR circuits, etc. Dovetailed nicely with earlier SPCR content when a lot of the silencing tools & gear we take for granted nowadays had to be done yourself. Cpemma was an active member from way back. Complete disappearance after all these years... :?: Foul play? Natural demise? Off to paradise w/ a windfall? Or just a retirement from fan concerns?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:38 pm
by andyb
R.I.P.


Andy

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:34 pm
by rpsgc
Oh... I'm afraid I might have bad news...

"The late Lion Howard Lloyd of Mexbrough Lions put together some excellent advice for newcomers. Read the articles below."

http://www.lions105c.org.uk/joomla/index.php/itmenu


cpemma's name is Howard Lloyd and he is from Mexborough, South Yorkshire.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:52 pm
by MikeC
rpsgc wrote:cpemma's name is Howard Lloyd and he is from Mexborough, South Yorkshire.
How did you learn this?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:54 pm
by andyb
R.I.P.


Andy

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:55 pm
by rpsgc
MikeC wrote:How did you learn this?
His location was on his profile, on all forums he frequented. The name I got from the registrant field in the Whois of both his websites (http://www.mexbro.co.uk and http://www.cpemma.co.uk)

Plus, he had a "Lions" section in his website (http://www.cpemma.co.uk/lions/).

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:11 pm
by MikeC
Thanks for the insights, rpsgc.

Howard Lloyd / Cpemma, RIP.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:09 am
by dukla2000
R.I.P.

His explanations and guides were perfectly at a level that I could understand, and implement. His experience and gentle insights in his postings here were always particularly apt.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:45 am
by AuraAllan
R.I.P. Howard Lloyd / Cpemma

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:41 am
by reddyuday
AuraAllan wrote:R.I.P. Howard Lloyd / Cpemma

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:42 am
by reddyuday
R.I.P.

Would it be possible to acquire his web site content and put it up on SPCR? I would think his family might the like the tribute.

Uday

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:43 am
by MikeC
reddyuday wrote:R.I.P.

Would it be possible to acquire his web site content and put it up on SPCR? I would think his family might the like the tribute.

Uday
Nice Idea, but I wouldn't know where to begin. Any ideas? Any volunteers to chase it? I'm always swamped for time...

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:32 am
by dhanson865
MikeC wrote:
reddyuday wrote:R.I.P.

Would it be possible to acquire his web site content and put it up on SPCR? I would think his family might the like the tribute.

Uday
Nice Idea, but I wouldn't know where to begin. Any ideas? Any volunteers to chase it? I'm always swamped for time...
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cpemma.co.uk/ has content from 2002 to 2007.

Dec 13 2007 looks to be the most recent copy.

Someone could rip the Dec 2007 copy manually in less than an hours work. Even faster with automated tools. I could do it but I don't have hosting.

If no one else volunteers I might do it sometime in 2010 and save the files in a zip or 7z file to send someone else that wants to host them.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:05 pm
by MikeC
dhanson865 wrote:http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cpemma.co.uk/ has content from 2002 to 2007 has content from 2002 to 2007

Dec 13 2007 looks to be the most recent copy.

Someone could rip the Dec 2007 copy manually in less than an hours work. Even faster with automated tools. I could do it but I don't have hosting.

If no one else volunteers I might do it sometime in 2010 and save the files in a zip or 7z file to send someone else that wants to host them.
Excellent! I don't have time to work on this right this minute, but will work with Richard (my web IT man) to get FBS up and running on the SPCR server over the next couple weeks. Perhaps as a subdomain of SPCR, with clear attribution to Howard Lloyd / Cpemma.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:17 pm
by Monkeh16
MikeC wrote:
dhanson865 wrote:http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cpemma.co.uk/ has content from 2002 to 2007 has content from 2002 to 2007

Dec 13 2007 looks to be the most recent copy.

Someone could rip the Dec 2007 copy manually in less than an hours work. Even faster with automated tools. I could do it but I don't have hosting.

If no one else volunteers I might do it sometime in 2010 and save the files in a zip or 7z file to send someone else that wants to host them.
Excellent! I don't have time to work on this right this minute, but will work with Richard (my web IT man) to get FBS up and running on the SPCR server over the next couple weeks. Perhaps as a subdomain of SPCR, with clear attribution to Howard Lloyd / Cpemma.
I'm in the (slow, web.archive.org feels like it's running on a 486 right now) process of (trying to) download it all now.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:41 pm
by MikeC
Monkeh16 wrote:I'm in the (slow, web.archive.org feels like it's running on a 486 right now) process of (trying to) download it all now.
I won't stress that server any further -- just fire me an email and let me know when you've successfully pulled the whole site down. Together, we'll get it up and running again soon. :)

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:50 pm
by Monkeh16
MikeC wrote:
Monkeh16 wrote:I'm in the (slow, web.archive.org feels like it's running on a 486 right now) process of (trying to) download it all now.
I won't stress that server any further -- just fire me an email and let me know when you've successfully pulled the whole site down. Together, we'll get it up and running again soon. :)
So far, not so good. I'm either getting uselessly incomplete copies or the program just gives up for one silly little 404..

E: Ok, so doing it automatically isn't working, everything either bails at the first 404 or follows a link incorrectly thanks to the web archive doing silly things.

I don't really have time to be mucking about trying to do it by hand with the state their servers seem to be in, so I'll leave it for someone else.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:03 pm
by robokopp
I am willing to harvest & clean-up the material.

So far, tried a web whack and got some, but not all files so far.

I have examined the content with Coffee Cup 2008 HTML editor. The samples appears to be straight-forward HTML code. Easy enough to re-work by hand. There is some javascript.

Having time right now, I am willing to go further, but do not want to duplicate efforts if *anyone* is already working on this project.

Unless told otherwise, I will continue with this work unless notified that my efforts are redundant.

First objective:
Harvest all of the archived content

Second objective:
Extract only CPEMMA's work

Third objective:
Restore CPEMMA's work to original, as faithfully as is possible

Fourth objective:
Deliver up the restoration to an authorized 3rd party.

Regards,

RK

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:32 pm
by MikeC
robokopp --

I bow to your initiative. I started downloading a few pages, and they came down fine, but I really don't have the time to pursue it right now, so your efforst would be great. We could take your work and reproduce cpemma's Fan Noise Solution site as faithfully as possible.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:06 pm
by dhanson865
I gave it a shot in Firefox saving as "complete web pages" which gets all the content but kills the original html. Just my half baked first pass at manually ripping it got 18 pages of html and the gifs/jpg/css/jss all totaling just over 2MB.

I didn't want to take the chance that it'd go down before someone got it but I'm sure not in the mood to scrape the original HTML or reconstruct the original file structure.

It's all yours robokopp if you want to do it. I've got to be at work in 7 hours so I'm off to bed.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:14 am
by Monkeh16
I've got it all downloaded and ready to go, I'll email a copy off to MikeC in a little while.

E: And a tar archive is flying through the void.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:52 am
by robokopp
Monkeh16 wrote:I've got it all downloaded and ready to go, I'll email a copy off to MikeC in a little while.

E: And a tar archive is flying through the void.
PM sent. There is a GIF I need for the re-construction.

RK

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:06 am
by robokopp
MikeC wrote:robokopp --

I bow to your initiative. I started downloading a few pages, and they came down fine, but I really don't have the time to pursue it right now, so your efforts would be great. We could take your work and reproduce cpemma's Fan Noise Solution site as faithfully as possible.
Mike,

Progress so far = into 3rd objective. DLed /html and /graphics files today. The re-constructed code is tested in a web development environment with Apache server. So far, so good.

It is not as simple as "download and mount elsewhere, as is". The archiving site scripted in as many references to itself as it possibly could and these have to be removed, plus other coding artifacts from "way-back".

Cleaning & re-testing is done, continuously, as the code is worked through. Objective is to send you a 100% finished site that you can use with minimal final prep. Midnight here, logging out.

Regards,

Robert Kopp

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:30 am
by Monkeh16
robokopp wrote:It is not as simple as "download and mount elsewhere, as is".
Actually, it is the way I've downloaded it, and emailed it to MikeC. It's ready to go, however missing several files:

2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/case_p.gif MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/pcfan1.jpg MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/pcfan2.jpg MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/map555pwm_vb1.gif MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/blinker2_vb.gif MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/555_throb.jpg MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/555_throbber_vb.gif MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/555_throb_sawcurve.gif MISSING
2009-12-21 03:01:46 http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/555_throb_sch.gif MISSING

They unfortunately are not archived.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:22 pm
by robokopp
Monkeh16 wrote:
robokopp wrote:It is not as simple as "download and mount elsewhere, as is".
Actually, it is the way I've downloaded it,
Glad there is one good version available. Don't know what it was, but something over there was fighting me. OK, I can put this aside and return to *normal*...