How do *you* pronounce "Kaze"?

Our "pub" where you can post about things completely Off Topic or about non-silent PC issues.

Moderators: NeilBlanchard, Ralf Hutter, sthayashi, Lawrence Lee

Post Reply

"Kaze"?

Kayz
7
18%
Kah-Ze
29
76%
Other
2
5%
 
Total votes: 38

KayDat
Posts: 222
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

How do *you* pronounce "Kaze"?

Post by KayDat » Thu May 20, 2010 4:05 am

So it occured to me, that the reason why Scythe had all these Japanese names for their products is because it is a Japanese company.
Now names like "Kabuto" and "Mugen" may be pronounced somewhat differently in English to Japanese, the structure is still mostly the same. But what about "Kaze"? The "vowel-consonant-E" rule in English completely changes the way you'd pronounce the word. So, how do you pronounce "Kaze"?

MikeC
Site Admin
Posts: 12285
Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2002 3:26 pm
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Contact:

Post by MikeC » Thu May 20, 2010 7:49 am

Same as in kamikaze

dhanson865
Posts: 2198
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:20 am
Location: TN, USA

Post by dhanson865 » Thu May 20, 2010 8:13 am

indeed

ka ze

two syllables, I stress the first slightly and the second is closely spaced with a smooth transition and a softer pronunciation.

the first a little softer than if someone from New Jersey says Car since some people from around there stress beginning consonant and drop the r sound. I can't think of a good reason to get someone from jersey to make the zee sound.

But while I'm thinking about the east coast someone go to Pat's or Geno's for me and bring me a proper Philly. Cheese Whiz, Provolone, or Mozzarella, You just can't get a good one around here without hitting a full fledged sit down restaurant where you have no idea who made it or how good it'll be this time. It's totally hit or miss.

Scoop
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:28 am

Post by Scoop » Thu May 20, 2010 8:22 am

Both syllables are short. The first syllable isn't a long kah but short, just like ze in terms on length. How you explain how to pronounce Japanese 'ka' and "ze" in English is beyond me. :D

What is a good example.... well watch this, there's plenty of 'kaze' in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYD1MLRapv8

fwiffo
Posts: 54
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 12:05 pm
Location: Florida

Post by fwiffo » Thu May 20, 2010 8:43 am

I'm surprised anyone actually pronounces it with one syllable. That's like pronouncing Nike like Mike.

dhanson865
Posts: 2198
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:20 am
Location: TN, USA

Post by dhanson865 » Thu May 20, 2010 11:02 am

Scoop wrote:Both syllables are short. The first syllable isn't a long kah but short, just like ze in terms on length. How you explain how to pronounce Japanese 'ka' and "ze" in English is beyond me. :D

What is a good example.... well watch this, there's plenty of 'kaze' in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYD1MLRapv8
actually in the video he says it more like ka zay than ka zee.

Even I say it with short syllables so if you saw something in my prior post that made you think I was drawing out the pronunciation it was just me trying to show more the tone than the length. Many short words/syllables allow for multiple pronunciations. Adding extra letters makes it more obvious to some what you mean when you can't use a you tube video to get the point across.

KayDat
Posts: 222
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Post by KayDat » Thu May 20, 2010 11:15 am

Well yeah, ultimately, it's hard to spell out the word in English, because it's a Japanese word. "ã

ilovejedd
Posts: 676
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:14 pm
Location: in the depths of hell

Post by ilovejedd » Thu May 20, 2010 11:38 am

[quote="KayDat"]Well yeah, ultimately, it's hard to spell out the word in English, because it's a Japanese word. "ã

KayDat
Posts: 222
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Post by KayDat » Thu May 20, 2010 12:11 pm

Yes, I'm Chinese and like watching anime too, doesn't make my opinion or vote any less valid. =] Just means you have a little more insight into the language. And while "風" is how it's written, "ã

ame
Posts: 488
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:35 pm
Location: Israel

Post by ame » Thu May 20, 2010 1:09 pm

never had to say this word

:lol:

EDIT
Kah Zeh - means "like this" in my laguage (hebrew)


EDIT2:

Can someone plaese tell me how to pronounce scythe?

Me and a freind are constantly in disagreement on this one.
Last edited by ame on Thu May 20, 2010 1:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.

alphabetbackward
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:59 pm
Location: California

Post by alphabetbackward » Thu May 20, 2010 1:11 pm

The ze part is more like "eh" than "ee".

So I'd say something like kah-zeh.

Regardless, I still pronounce karaoke, "care-ee-o-kee" and not how Zapp Brannigan said it in Futurama.

KayDat
Posts: 222
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Post by KayDat » Thu May 20, 2010 2:23 pm

I pronounce Scythe like "ssigh-th", with a bit of a sliding "ss" sound for the "sc".

aristide1
*Lifetime Patron*
Posts: 4284
Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2003 6:21 pm
Location: Undisclosed but sober in US

Post by aristide1 » Sat May 22, 2010 7:47 am

I let other people pronounce it for me. :mrgreen:

judge56988
Friend of SPCR
Posts: 455
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:39 am
Location: England

Post by judge56988 » Sat May 22, 2010 8:52 am

Here in England, "carzy" is slang for a toilet, so if I ever need to say Scythe Kaze, which I probably won't, I think I'll stick with kaze (to rhyme with haze or maze).

Scoop
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:28 am

Post by Scoop » Sat May 22, 2010 11:21 am

dhanson865 wrote:
Scoop wrote:Both syllables are short. The first syllable isn't a long kah but short, just like ze in terms on length. How you explain how to pronounce Japanese 'ka' and "ze" in English is beyond me. :D

What is a good example.... well watch this, there's plenty of 'kaze' in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYD1MLRapv8
actually in the video he says it more like ka zay than ka zee.

Even I say it with short syllables so if you saw something in my prior post that made you think I was drawing out the pronunciation it was just me trying to show more the tone than the length. Many short words/syllables allow for multiple pronunciations. Adding extra letters makes it more obvious to some what you mean when you can't use a you tube video to get the point across.
I probably just looked at the poll options where it says 'kah-ze'. I actually voted 'other' because even though close, that's not correct either :)

thejamppa
Posts: 3142
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:20 am
Location: Missing in Finnish wilderness, howling to moon with wolf brethren and walking with brother bears
Contact:

Post by thejamppa » Sun May 23, 2010 4:43 am

Japanese and Finnish languange both construct main bi-syllabels / bi-syllabic construction and both languange tend to pronounce syllabels and words as they are written, unlike English for isntant.

So I would pronounce it: Kaze. Combining English words Scythe and japanese word Kaze intends to make my tongue bit tied up, due suddenly changing pronounciation from one to another. I'd probably pronounce it Saith Kaze... Theory easy but in practise I might bite my tongue... again :D

JamieG
Posts: 822
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by JamieG » Sun May 23, 2010 3:11 pm

kah-zeh is how I would pronounce it - the influence of some high school Japanese.

Fayd
Posts: 379
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 2:19 pm
Location: San Diego

Re: How do *you* pronounce "Kaze"?

Post by Fayd » Sun May 23, 2010 4:15 pm

KayDat wrote:So it occured to me, that the reason why Scythe had all these Japanese names for their products is because it is a Japanese company.
Now names like "Kabuto" and "Mugen" may be pronounced somewhat differently in English to Japanese, the structure is still mostly the same. But what about "Kaze"? The "vowel-consonant-E" rule in English completely changes the way you'd pronounce the word. So, how do you pronounce "Kaze"?
kah zay

Fayd
Posts: 379
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 2:19 pm
Location: San Diego

Post by Fayd » Sun May 23, 2010 4:16 pm

JamieG wrote:kah-zeh is how I would pronounce it - the influence of some high school Japanese.
for me, it's the influence of an unhealthy obsession with anime and manga.

Fayd
Posts: 379
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 2:19 pm
Location: San Diego

Post by Fayd » Sun May 23, 2010 4:20 pm

ame wrote:never had to say this word

:lol:

EDIT
Kah Zeh - means "like this" in my laguage (hebrew)


EDIT2:

Can someone plaese tell me how to pronounce scythe?

Me and a freind are constantly in disagreement on this one.
easier solution would be to google it in a dictionary or wiktionary, and listen to the sound clip.

alleycat
Posts: 740
Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 10:32 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by alleycat » Tue May 25, 2010 7:31 pm

fwiffo wrote:I'm surprised anyone actually pronounces it with one syllable. That's like pronouncing Nike like Mike.
I know it's OT, but since someone has mentioned it, I find it annoying how people pronounce "Nike" as nigh-key. Where does this come from? Just as in the name "Mike", in English the function of the "e" at the end is to modify the "i" into a long vowel, and is itself not pronounced (the "vowel-consonant-E" rule referred to by the OP). To pronounce the "e" separately, it can no longer function as a vowel modifier. It's either one or the other, not both simultaneously.

I believe the name "Nike" is in reference to Greek mythology, however the Greek pronunciation would sound more like nee-kay. The nigh-key pronunciation is mangled rubbish, neither English nor Greek. Applying the same inconsistencies to "kaze", we'd end up with kay-zee (rhymes with "crazy" :wink: ).

colm
Posts: 409
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:22 am
Location: maine

Post by colm » Thu May 27, 2010 9:31 pm

judge56988 wrote:Here in England, "carzy" is slang for a toilet, so if I ever need to say Scythe Kaze, which I probably won't, I think I'll stick with kaze (to rhyme with haze or maze).
me too.
if to mention association with japanese, I change the vote to kah zee...

a dialect thing.

merlin
Friend of SPCR
Posts: 717
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:48 am
Location: San Francisco, CA

Post by merlin » Thu May 27, 2010 11:34 pm

fwiffo wrote:I'm surprised anyone actually pronounces it with one syllable. That's like pronouncing Nike like Mike.
Lol I just noticed your username. We have a spathi on board who likes silence! That totally makes sense because that means you aren't hearing scary aliens invading you...only ones sneaking up on you ;)

Post Reply