Thermalright V-1 Revision

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Thermalright V-1 Revision

Post by warriorpoet » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:22 pm

I shot a quick inquiry to Thermalright about their V-1 cooler, and this is what I got (both messages quoted directly):


---- Original Message -----

Hey guys,

Long time very satisfied Thermalright customer here (from the slk days). I need to cool down a 7800GT, and I'm wondering if the V-1 will cut it, or if you have something else coming down the pike. To be honest, I took a pass on the V-1 for my 6800GT because the design is not exactly the high quality, well thought out stuff I've come to expect from you, but I am willing to give it a shot if you tell me it will cool better than a NV Silencer.

Thanks,
[poet]


Hi [poet],

Thank you for your inquiry.

If you wait for a few days, a new version of the V-1 will be out in full force. This new version of the V-1 will be able to handle the hottest GPUs and also up-coming future GPU’s, and yes we believe it will out perform any NV Silencers. Please check out our website from time to time for most current news about our line up.

Thank you for taking interest in Thermalright products.

Best regards,
Hank Peng
Customer Relations/ Sales Representative
Tel: +886-2-8663-6630
Fax: +886-2-8663-6645


Interesting, no?
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Post by GHz » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:34 pm

Awesome. I'm also a long-time fan of Thermalright products, but--like you--I skipped over the V-1 (for the same reasons) and got an NV Silencer 5. After going through 2 of those (the fans went bad) I switched to Zalman VF700-CU. The Zalman is very quiet and powerful, but I think the sector needs more competition, and Thermalright is just what it needs. Please update this thread if you find any information on this new cooler!

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Post by clarkkent333 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:28 pm

Nice job Warrior. I was going to email them next week and ask if they were coming out with a new revision. Good timing too, I was just going to buy an NV silencer to replace my Zalman.

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Post by theyangster » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:29 pm

SVC is "out of stock" of the V-1

i think heatpipes are the future! (assuming V-2 has heatpipes)

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Post by rpsgc » Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:40 am

It could be just a minor revision, or a new version. Maybe a 92mm one?

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Post by warriorpoet » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:27 am

I'm trying to get a ship date. Here's the mail:


Awesome! I can't wait. Are you aware of the release date, or is that confidential?

Thanks,
[poet]


Hi [poet],

The exact release date is a tentative one. But what is sure is that it should be announced in two weeks. Also, please calculate the time for the resellers to import products and that might take sometime from a week to a month.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Hank Peng
Customer Relations/ Sales Representative
Tel: +886-2-8663-6630
Fax: +886-2-8663-6645

*emphasis added.

So they're asking us to be patient. No problem for me, I'll not get my new card before January price cuts, but I wonder if others can stand their stock fans that long...

As far as I can speculate:

1. the V-1's major issues were RAM cooling (see nVidia 6800 series) and compatibility
2. Thermalright is well known for their effective utilization of heatpipe technology
3. Thermalright is also well known for using the largest fan available, but
4. 25mm fans take up a lot of space, reducing the space in which to use heatpipe technology, so...

I predict either a minor revision of their V-1, with a better implemented design (i.e. better placement of the heatpipes), or a no-holds-barred mega 92mm fanned four heatpipe kludge similar to the stock cooler on the GTX 512. Either way, I want one!

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Post by rpsgc » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:07 am

warriorpoet wrote:<snip>
Great. Keep us posted.

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Post by wnmnkh » Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:28 am

It comes out, named V-1 Ultra.

From their site.
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* 80mm fan cooler (optional two fans)
* Soldered fins to copper base to make effective contact
* Compatibility across multiple platforms (ATI & NVIDIA)

Technical Spec.:

Dimension:

Heat sink (base,front): L30xW24xH2 (mm)
Heat sink (body,front): L80xW80xH20 (mm)
Heat sink (body, rear/with fan): L80xW80*H28.5
Rear heat sink to VGA card: 6 mm

Weight:

310g (heat sink only)

Stock Fan

Maker: OEM
Size: 80x 80x 15 (mm)
Bearing: Two Balls
Voltage: 12V
Speed: 2500 rpm
Air Flow: 24.84CFM
Noise Level: 31.3 dBA

Compatibilities


ATI:
Radeon 9600, 9800, X700*, X800* (*: Check for details)

NVIDIA:
GeForce 6600*, 6600 GT*, 6800, 6800GT, 6800 Ultra, 7800GT, 7800 GTX (*: Check for details)

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Post by gesundheit » Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:59 am

So 10 gm heavier, but the photos and specs seem otherwise identical. Their installation pages use the exact same photo for the retention bracket for the V1 and Ultra (but labelled seperately as V1 and V1 Ultra brackets), but somehow they're now compatible with the 7800 series? Perhaps they just haven't bothered to update the photo of the bracket, or maybe they just got enough positive feedback from peeps who've gone ahead and tried the V1 on their 7800's successfully, so Thermalright feels confident claiming full compatibility now? I don't see a real "Ultra" just yet, but will patiently await details of the changes...

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Post by warriorpoet » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:29 am

There's an extra heatpipe. My reaction to that is:

"That's it?"

Sure it'll cool the GPU better, but what about the RAM? What about reducing fan noise (32Db is a little high for me)? What about exhausting heat outside the case? Also, for my annual February spending spree, will it cool the GTX512 better than stock?

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Post by acaurora » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:53 am

Seriously, if the 512 MB GTX's Quadro cooler is as quiet as the stock cooler, you won't NEED to buy anything. The stock 256 MB GTX cooler is extremely quiet, and even after playing BF2 for 6 hours straight, i have yet to hear it ramp up.

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Post by warriorpoet » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:55 am

hmmm... link's not working

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Post by Kizz » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:11 pm

Tbh I'd probably go with the VF-700 over this - the copper and ram cooling appeals to me more than a bunch of heatpipes.

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Post by rpsgc » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:23 am

All we need now is for Scythe to start making VGA coolers as well ;)

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Post by Tephras » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:03 pm

rpsgc wrote:All we need now is for Scythe to start making VGA coolers as well ;)

Well, I believe this VGA cooler is from Scythe, it's the VNCU-01NA. That cooler and the VNCU-02NA was seen at Computex 2004 in Taipei (it looks as if they only was prototypes at the time) but they never got out on the market as it seems, except that MSI used the VNCU-01NA for some of their cards sold in Asia. There's no info about them on any Scythe website, the only indication that Scythe was involved in the production somehow, apart from the fact that the coolers use Heatlane technology and the naming of the coolers, is that they are called Scythe coolers at The Silent PC website and in TrustedReviews Computex 2004 covering.

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Post by rpsgc » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:11 pm

Something like a Ninja for VGAs would be awesome :D

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Post by warriorpoet » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:07 am

I'm ordering this in a few days. Anyone want a review (something like my NV Silencer 5 Rev.3 review, located here) ?

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Post by acaurora » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:39 am

I think I speak on behalf of all of us when I say YES!

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Post by AHjota » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:23 am

Seconded, warriorpoet.

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Post by JazzJackRabbit » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:22 pm

warriorpoet wrote:I'm ordering this in a few days. Anyone want a review (something like my NV Silencer 5 Rev.3 review, located here) ?
Can you see if you can mount a standard 25 mm fan like panaflo in pull configuration, i.e. sucking the air through the fins instead of blowing down onto the videocard. Would be awesome if you could do that, then the heat could be quickly exhausted outside through the rear exhaust fans, almost as good as Arctic Silencers but without annoying click noise.

EDIT: meh, just checked, doesn't look like it's gonna fit in my rig, there just isn't enough clearance between videocard and heatsink. Looks like I'm going to be stuck with clicking Arctic Silencer for a while until something better comes along... *sigh*

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Post by koegs » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:13 am

Is this a One-Slot-Solution? I mean, is the pci-slot next to the PCIe-16x-Slot still usable?

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Post by warriorpoet » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:17 pm

koegs wrote:Is this a One-Slot-Solution? I mean, is the pci-slot next to the PCIe-16x-Slot still usable?
It's close. The heatsink may come in contact with the PCI card in some configs, but not others. Of course, it goes without saying that an empty PCI slot=cooler temps.

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Post by Wedge » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:24 am

warriorpoet, review on.

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Post by Weldingheart » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:41 am

a roundup consists of 8 coolers on 6800GS,comparing V1 vs V1-Ultra
not a low noise type review though...

Image

AeroCool PC Aircon
Arctic Cooling NV Silencer5 (rev.2)
Arctic Cooling Accelero X1
Evercool Turbo2
Thermalright V1
V1-Ultra Thermalright
Titan Eagle (TTC-CSC82TB(DIY))
Zalman Fatal1ty FS-V7

Hey TR added 1 more heatpipe and reduce temp by 10C,they might put magic into that 3rd heatpipe :o

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Post by warriorpoet » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:50 pm

Holy crap! I knew it was good, but a 10c difference? That's just crazy.

Maybe it tears a hole in the fabric of the universe, or something.

Quantum cooling, now that's something I like :lol: :lol:

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Post by mynameisyoung » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:20 pm

Does the V-1 Ultra support 25mm fans? As far as I can see from pictures is that it uses screws... so I guess you'll just need a different type of screw?

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:22 pm

Greetings,

If you used two cards (in an SLi setup) could you use a V2 on the lower card? Wouldn't the SLi jumper be obstructed by the cooler on the lower card?

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Post by Mr Evil » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:19 am

mynameisyoung wrote:Does the V-1 Ultra support 25mm fans? As far as I can see from pictures is that it uses screws... so I guess you'll just need a different type of screw?
I just got one today and yes, it is no problem to fit a thicker fan on there with longer screws.

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