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upcoming AM2 build

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:23 pm
by Chris Chan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814127210
MSI GeForce 7600GS - $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813138026
Biostar Tforce550 - $83

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... 1-AM2-4000
Athlon 64 X2 4000+ - $350

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835185125
AC Freezer 64 Pro - $35

http://www.svc.com/1202512l.html
Globalwin NCB 120mm - $6 (quantity 3)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231081
G.skill 2x1GB DDR2/533 - $162

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822144701
Western Digital WD2500KS 250GB SATA - $90

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827101008
BenQ DW1655 black Lightscribe DVD burner - $60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6821152005
NEC black floppy drive - $6

http://www.overcool.com/exec/product.as ... m_id=31712
Akasa Eclipse 62 black case - $147

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817151022
Seasonic S12-380 PSU - $77

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835118217
Zalman Fanmate2 - $6 (quantity 3)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835127101
Aerocool VM-101 fanless video card HS - $22

So what do you think? Improvements I could make?

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:46 pm
by qviri
Man, I gotta say that's one expensive case, especially without a PSU.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:55 pm
by Chris Chan
Not nearly as expensive as the SST Temjin 7, and better too.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:11 pm
by jackylman
- Since you have an X2, DDR2-800 might come in handy. If you buy this OCZ kit by Sunday and get the rebate, it's only $9 more than the DDR2-533 kit you've selected.

- For the video card, is there a reason you're getting the version with a fan and then installing an aftermarket heatsink? Just get the MSI version without a fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814127211

- For the CPU heatsink, are you sure it's compatible with the new retention bracket? If you have room in your case, you might want to consider a bigger heatsink that can accomodate the 120mm fan of your choice. I'm not up on my AM2 heatsinks, so maybe someone else can help you out here.

- You're going to need to do something about that fan on the chipset (probably replace with a Zalman NB-47J)
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:25 pm
by Chris Chan
Yes, the Freezer 64 Pro is compatible to the AM2 bracket, and there are no 120mm heatsinks for AM2 yet afaik. I will get a NB47J; forgot to put that. As for the video card, the VM101 is a larger heatsink and cools better than the factory passive one. I'm not planning to buy anything by Sunday; I might just get 1GB DDR2/800.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:25 pm
by Rusty075
I agree with jackyl, for the price of the MSI card plus the VM101 you could get the Asus 7600gs, with 512mb and faster clock speeds.

Why pick one of the few AM2 mobo's with a fan? Lots of other choices with similar features that won't require a mod.

And this is a personal thing, but I would rather wait a week or two until a reputable reseller has that CPU in stock, rather than buy it from tigerdirect.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:33 pm
by Chris Chan
Ok, I'm switching the mobo to MSI K9N Neo F. I wasn't really thinking about buying the cpu from tigerdefect, I'll wait until Newegg carries it. I'm also switching to the Asus card.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:33 pm
by Howard
AFAIK standard memory speed for the AM2 CPUs will be DDR2-667, not 533, although you could probably run the memory with a divider with no loss in performance.

ZZF has the AC F64P for $26, free shipping. Way better than from Newegg.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=316435

Samsung SP2504C instead of the WD - cheaper and quieter.

Much better deal than the 7300GS: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hm ... ia=AA47370

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:39 pm
by Chris Chan
Supplier for CPU HSF switched to ZZF, why get a 7300GT instead of 7600GS? I was also told by QuietOC that the seeks on the WD are much less annoying than on the Samsung.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:40 pm
by SD-Plissken
MSI K9N Neo-F ATX AMD is passively cooled. not sure how you feel about it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813130050[/url]

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:05 pm
by jackylman
Howard wrote:AFAIK standard memory speed for the AM2 CPUs will be DDR2-667
That's for the single cores. Dual cores will be DDR2-800.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:45 pm
by Howard
Chris Chan wrote:Supplier for CPU HSF switched to ZZF, why get a 7300GT instead of 7600GS?
Sorry, I thought it said 7300GS, not 7600GS.
I was also told by QuietOC that the seeks on the WD are much less annoying than on the Samsung.
Well, if they have more sway than SPCR...

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:07 am
by Chris Chan
I'll already get the MSI motherboard; QuietOC is a member here on SPCR forums. I'm switching to this RAM because I'll not be needing 2gb and it's DDR2/800.

Other GPUs to consider

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:59 am
by Balthazar_B
You may also want to consider these GPUs for a quiet-as-possible box:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125025

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125028

Tom's Hardware just published a very positive review of the former.

- BB

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:19 pm
by Chris Chan
gfx switched tghe Gigabyte 7600GT. CPU switched to the sempron 2800+, I can just upgrade later when 65nm comes.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:07 pm
by Firetech
Why not stick with the standard AMD heatpipe HSF until a 120mm one is available? jmke tested one recently and it's not too bad at all, if you set up BIOS fan control.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:15 pm
by Felger Carbon
Firetech wrote:Why not stick with the standard AMD heatpipe HSF until a 120mm one is available? jmke tested one recently and it's not too bad at all, if you set up BIOS fan control.
The Sempron 64 2800+ doesn't come with a heat-pipe HSF. It comes with a dinky all-aluminum (no copper plug) extrusion with a thin (15mm) 70mm fan. :cry:

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:37 pm
by Firetech
Felger Carbon wrote:
Firetech wrote:Why not stick with the standard AMD heatpipe HSF until a 120mm one is available? jmke tested one recently and it's not too bad at all, if you set up BIOS fan control.
The Sempron 64 2800+ doesn't come with a heat-pipe HSF. It comes with a dinky all-aluminum (no copper plug) extrusion with a thin (15mm) 70mm fan. :cry:
My mistake, I was looking at the original post with dual core and Freezer Pro.
:oops:
Personally, I'd sit and wait for 65nm before buying anything at all but then again, we need some early adoptors to do the AM2 beta testing :lol:

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:21 am
by Chris Chan
And I'll stick with the Freezer Pro til the 120mm HSF comes out.