What Motherboard?

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steevie_b
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What Motherboard?

Post by steevie_b » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:41 am

Ok, I'm not really clued-up on PCs nowadays (not built one for over 2 years) and am stuck on which motherboard to get for my new system.
I'll be using it for watching videos and TV, rendering video files to DVD, playing games, music, CAD and some MatLab as well as the basics, word processing, internet etc.

I'm thinking about a Core2Quad, maybe a Q9400S, for my processor but when it comes to my motherboard, I'm a bit stuck on choosing the right one...

Ideally it will have: 2x PCI-E for my GPUs, at least 2x PCI for my network and TV cards.

Also, I'm not sure what RAM to go for. Is it worth getting one with DDR3 (making it "future-proof") or stick with DDR2?

Cheers.
Steve

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Post by jobu » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:51 am

/bump

I'm interested in this as well. There are so many options out there, and I have no idea where to start. I'm planning to get an Antec P182 case, and use a Q9400 or possibly a Q9550 processor. No idea for the video card yet.

What motherboards are laid out well to fit in the 182?

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Re: What Motherboard?

Post by jessekopelman » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:49 pm

steevie_b wrote: Also, I'm not sure what RAM to go for. Is it worth getting one with DDR3 (making it "future-proof") or stick with DDR2?
Stick with DDR2. DDR3 still has a long way to go before the price is right -- by then you may be ready to upgrade the MB. Really, to make the MB future-proof it would have to support one of the new Intel sockets like 1366 (i7) or 1156 (i5). Unfortunately, socket 775 is in the last year or two of its mainstream-useful life, so I'd be wary of spending too much on such a MB.

For the same reason, I wouldn't bother with the Q9550. The i5 should be out before the end of this year, so why spend a lot on what will soon be a previous generation processor? I think unless you really need cutting edge power, it is always better to buy something just powerful enough to get by for a couple of years (which will be in the pricing sweet spot) and just keep upgrading as it makes sense to do so. Since we are still at least a year from the i5 stuff being a good deal, stick with your socket 775 based plans, just stay more to the midrange and accept you will likely want to replace CPU, MB, and RAM all together. Q9400 will serve you fine for many years on the entertainment front, so the real driver for when you next need to upgrade is going to be the CAD and Matlab. You may even want to consider if you wouldn't be better served with an E8400 -- faster for some usage cases than a Q9400 and much less expensive.

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Post by Riffer » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:36 am

jessekopelman has a lot of good points, I'll add and reinforce some.

Don't bother with a quad-core unless you have an application that can actually use it.

DDR3 isn't really future proof, since, without doubt, the speeds will go up by the time you upgrade.

DDR3 isn't really faster than DDR2 for Socket 775:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory ... undup.html

Right now I think the choices are DDR2/dual core if on a budget; DDR3/ i-7 if you need better performance and have more to spend.

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Post by Koomoo » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:28 am

I sugguest a EVGA 780i SLi motherboard

It has 3 PCIe Slots (just incase you wanna upgrade =])
also 2 Regular PCI slots
Nvidia chipset
Supports INtel Core2Duo or Quad
DDR2 supported
2x 1GB Ethernet Ports

I have this motherboard the bios are very easy to setup.

Give us an update =]

-KooMooX

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Post by Monkeh16 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:40 am

I suggest a Abit IP35 Pro if you can find one still. Superb boards.
I also highly suggest not getting anything with an nVidia chipset.

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Post by Koomoo » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:49 am

Whats wrong with an nVidia chipset?
I had mine for years and its still fine

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Post by Monkeh16 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:51 am

Koomoo wrote:Whats wrong with an nVidia chipset?
I had mine for years and its still fine
Crippled USB (all since NF4 at least), broken PCI bus (NF4 at least), hot running..

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Post by Koomoo » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:58 am

I see.
I've had nVidia chipset motherboards in the past and i also have one currently at the moment.
and none has given me any of the problems you described.
I would still take nVidia chipsets into consideration.

=]

-KooMooX

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Post by Monkeh16 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:26 am

Koomoo wrote:I see.
I've had nVidia chipset motherboards in the past and i also have one currently at the moment.
and none has given me any of the problems you described.
I would still take nVidia chipsets into consideration.

=]

-KooMooX
Plug into your nVidia board: One USB keyboard. One USB mouse. One USB joystick. One USB steering wheel. One USB microphone. Watch as it flaps about and fails to recognise them all.

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Post by Koomoo » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:10 pm

I have
1 usb keyboard
1 usb mouse
1 usb headset
1 usb external hard drive
1 usb printer
1 usb webcam

connected all at once

I usually plug in and out my Thumb drives and also a MicroSD Reader for my R4 for my Nintendo DS.

No problems so far.

I'll let you know when a problem does occur.

nVidia chipsets are nice.

I would still recommend them to anyone =]

-KooMooX

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Post by ~El~Jefe~ » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:10 pm

Eh, I believe the nvidia chipsets draw more wattage.

shrugs.

I would go with an Asus board. p45 chipset. p35 is lower wattage but over a year older. p45 is now a year old. p35 is great though.

I use a p5q se2. its a slim atx board. I have 2x2gb of ocz ram at 1066 with 5 5 5 15 timings. e8400 chip. plays games like a rocket ship.

ddr3 can ONLY be bought in sets of 3 to use in the new i7 systems. buying 4x2 ddr3 would mean you need to be a 3rd chip for i7.

ddr2 1066mhz ram. go look for a great brand and maybe a lower voltage rating on the 1066 speed. I use mine at 2.2volts. I could go lower, but its rated at that and I dont want to see errors for .1 or .2 voltage difference on a minor wattage part.

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Post by Monkeh16 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:45 am

Koomoo wrote:I have
1 usb keyboard
1 usb mouse
1 usb headset
1 usb external hard drive
1 usb printer
1 usb webcam
HDD, printer, and possibly webcam are all likely high speed devices. As for the rest.. any USB hubs in the mix?

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Post by Koomoo » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:31 pm

Nah no USB Hubs

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