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No Avatars!
This was announced in the Site Feedback forum, under the hijacked header "NO Avatars Please!!"
Avatars are now officially banned from SPCR.
The few members using avatars in their sigs are requested to remove them. There are lots of other sites where such avatars are welcome, go crazy there, but we would prefer they disappear from SPCR. They do not add any value to anyone's posts. This is an issue that I have been discussing with Alistair as well as long-time members of the forums who volunteer their time and energy. There are lots of other ways to express yourself here -- and in the world at large.
We would prefer that people do this voluntarily. I don't like playing policeman, it's not a welcome job, but it seems to come occasionally with the territory.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Mike Chin
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Avatars are now officially banned from SPCR.
The few members using avatars in their sigs are requested to remove them. There are lots of other sites where such avatars are welcome, go crazy there, but we would prefer they disappear from SPCR. They do not add any value to anyone's posts. This is an issue that I have been discussing with Alistair as well as long-time members of the forums who volunteer their time and energy. There are lots of other ways to express yourself here -- and in the world at large.
We would prefer that people do this voluntarily. I don't like playing policeman, it's not a welcome job, but it seems to come occasionally with the territory.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Mike Chin
SPCR Forum Admin
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What I am opposed to are cluttering of the forums by images and information that don't have any relevance to SPCR. Seems to me that folding info is at least some what relevant & not as distracting as an arbitrary oft-repeated image.Rusty075 wrote:Just a question of clarifacation, are we talking just text now, or are the various F@H stat reporters still ok?
Obviously people will tell me if they disagree.
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Speaking of sigs, everyone sigs containing computer components kind of makes it hard to search the forums for information about those components, since any sig containing that component shows up as a hit as well.PhilgB wrote:I agree. Even some text-based 100% relevant sigs are distracting because of their large font and excessive length...
Is there any way to search forums without hitting the sig text?
I'm a little confused. If you don't want avatars, why not disable them?
http://www.phpbb.com/support/guide/#section3_2_2_5
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It is. But just because the feature is turned off in phpBB does not mean people can't have images showing up in their sigs.msde wrote:I'm a little confused. If you don't want avatars, why not disable them?
http://www.phpbb.com/support/guide/#section3_2_2_5
ok, this thread is old but I think there is need to be a reconsideration about the avatars ban.
Avatars have many benefits, one of them that is really needed for SPCR is that you will no longer need to read every user name and you will not need to memorize them. It will be just as easy as looking at a picture and that user will be registered in your brain. Next time you dont even need to look at the avatar, just read the post and your brain will scan the avatar without you knowing it.
On this forum most of the times when I'm reading a thread I quick scan for senior memeber's posts to see what they have to say about the subject, what they say is always more accurate than what the newbies say, for example I do trust MikeC when he says something is quiet as everybody has a diffrent meaning for the word Quiet.
I read people saying that this is a mature forum and avatars are not welcome. Well if its a mature forum then let its mature users to use mature avatars. and if a kid shows up with Pokiman avatar you'll know how to deal with him.
Mike, I would really appreciate if the avatars are enables again, and before saying yes or no please see what others have to say about it.
Thanks for your time.
Avatars have many benefits, one of them that is really needed for SPCR is that you will no longer need to read every user name and you will not need to memorize them. It will be just as easy as looking at a picture and that user will be registered in your brain. Next time you dont even need to look at the avatar, just read the post and your brain will scan the avatar without you knowing it.
On this forum most of the times when I'm reading a thread I quick scan for senior memeber's posts to see what they have to say about the subject, what they say is always more accurate than what the newbies say, for example I do trust MikeC when he says something is quiet as everybody has a diffrent meaning for the word Quiet.
I read people saying that this is a mature forum and avatars are not welcome. Well if its a mature forum then let its mature users to use mature avatars. and if a kid shows up with Pokiman avatar you'll know how to deal with him.
Mike, I would really appreciate if the avatars are enables again, and before saying yes or no please see what others have to say about it.
Thanks for your time.
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My opinion, no avatars. Just skim over the names on the left side of the post. It's not like it's THAT hard to see the user name, there's no clutter to confuse your eye from seeing their name. There's even a post count if you're looking for "senior" members. If you're into particular posters, again, you can see their name quite easily. More importantly, there's no guarantee people won't use the same avatar, so it makes your argument baseless since there's no guarantee a pretty picture will automatically equal user X instead of user Y, they, or several other users, may be using the same avatar. Users on slower connections will also have to download a bunch of pictures everytime they click on a thread, making use of the forums even slower and more frustrating for them, chewing up bandwidth they would rather be minimizing for the sake of time and efficiency.
I totally agrre with you spolitta.
And the avatars won't make the forum look bigger, since they can be smaller than the room that a nickname takes.
On the other hand, once you get the avatars, they're stored in your cache, so you won't download them every time you get into a thread, all you're going to download are the avatars that aren't in your cache yet.
And the avatars won't make the forum look bigger, since they can be smaller than the room that a nickname takes.
It's easier to see an avatar, even it it's just 50x50.Shadowknight wrote:It's not like it's THAT hard to see the user name, there's no clutter to confuse your eye from seeing their name.
Posts mean nothing.Shadowknight wrote:There's even a post count if you're looking for "senior" members.
I'm in several forums and this never happened.Shadowknight wrote:More importantly, there's no guarantee people won't use the same avatar, so it makes your argument baseless since there's no guarantee a pretty picture will automatically equal user X instead of user Y, they, or several other users, may be using the same avatar.
Not true, they would only have to download them the first time, and avatars can be as small as 5KB, so an entire page with 20 posts is going to be 100KB of avatars.Shadowknight wrote:Users on slower connections will also have to download a bunch of pictures everytime they click on a thread, making use of the forums even slower and more frustrating for them, chewing up bandwidth they would rather be minimizing for the sake of time and efficiency.
On the other hand, once you get the avatars, they're stored in your cache, so you won't download them every time you get into a thread, all you're going to download are the avatars that aren't in your cache yet.
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This is what spolitta said:Posts mean nothing.
So he thinks post count means something.I'm reading a thread I quick scan for senior memeber's posts to see what they have to say about the subject, what they say is always more accurate than what the newbies say
So? The names are in bold. I have an easier time seeing who a poster is by looking at their name, instead of trying to memorize who uses what avatar instead of looking at their name.It's easier to see an avatar, even it it's just 50x50.
And I've been on several forums where this did happen.I'm in several forums and this never happenedShadowknight wrote:
More importantly, there's no guarantee people won't use the same avatar, so it makes your argument baseless since there's no guarantee a pretty picture will automatically equal user X instead of user Y, they, or several other users, may be using the same avatar.
Anyway, SPCR is geared to being minimalist and efficient. A bunch of avatars would make the forums look tacky. That's why they were banned in the first place.
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I say no avatars.
If you're capable of reading the contents of the post, you're also capable of scanning/reading the posters' username to the left of it.
I read/post on dozens of forums every day and I really appreciate the clean look of the avatar/sig-less forums like SPCR. There's less crap to break your concentration and less scrolling needed to read the threads.
If you're capable of reading the contents of the post, you're also capable of scanning/reading the posters' username to the left of it.
I read/post on dozens of forums every day and I really appreciate the clean look of the avatar/sig-less forums like SPCR. There's less crap to break your concentration and less scrolling needed to read the threads.
I think SPCR should develop a complex scheme where for each post you make, you get another pixel! So first posters can only choose a colour while someone who has 9 posts can make a crude tic-tac-toe board!
To be extra tricky, you could require everyone to always use each of their available pixels, thus everyone will have to update their avatar every time they post!
I'm probably break 4 forum rules with this post and will soon be banned....
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To be extra tricky, you could require everyone to always use each of their available pixels, thus everyone will have to update their avatar every time they post!
I'm probably break 4 forum rules with this post and will soon be banned....
Well then your avatar has to be a line, I'm sure people can come up with all sorts of interesting arrangements of alternating colours that speak loads to who you are and what you believe.Emyr wrote:The problem with this is prime numbers...pipperoni wrote:To be extra tricky, you could require everyone to always use each of their available pixels, thus everyone will have to update their avatar every time they post!
I like the add a pixel per post message. I can be a little [by my scale
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I completely agree with the no avatar rule. This forum is not for a fashion show by those who post (although it might be for their computer systems, some of the "cable-gami" in some of the sytem pics opened my eyes to what is possible in cable routing), readers come here for technical information about computer system design decisions. As has been said, the names in bold at the left already stand out, and can be scanned in no time flat.
Would it make the information any more valuable if there was a message from MikeC over a cute puppy vs. a message from MikeC over some anime character?
Just as in building a system, keep the functionality and leave out the noise.
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I completely agree with the no avatar rule. This forum is not for a fashion show by those who post (although it might be for their computer systems, some of the "cable-gami" in some of the sytem pics opened my eyes to what is possible in cable routing), readers come here for technical information about computer system design decisions. As has been said, the names in bold at the left already stand out, and can be scanned in no time flat.
Would it make the information any more valuable if there was a message from MikeC over a cute puppy vs. a message from MikeC over some anime character?
Just as in building a system, keep the functionality and leave out the noise.