AMD Athlon X2 4400+: ADV4400DAA6CD or ADA4400DAA6CD?!?

Bonalandia · Post by **Bonalandia** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:53 am

Hi,

Nowadays, there are two releases of this CPU: same ordering P/N (PIB) ADA4400CDBOX, but different ordering P/N (Tray): ADA4400DAA6CD or ADV4400DAA6CD.
And these aren't the only differences...

As you can see here:

1) ADA4400DAA6CD

http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop ... 4400DAA6CD

-Max Temp 65°C
-Thermal Power 110W

2) ADV4400DAA6CD

http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop ... 4400DAA6CD

-Max Temp 71°C
-Thermal Power 89W

The latter seems an improvement, for quieter systems' aficionados and for OC's enthusiasts, but I can't say and see what kind of variations there are inside the CPU structure...

Is there anyone here who knows if there are any diffferences in performance and in OC possibility, too?!?

Thank you!!!

Poodle · Post by **Poodle** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:02 pm

Different sized chache memory. The new one with less memory overclocks better...

stupid · Post by **stupid** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:25 pm

Poodle wrote:Different sized chache memory. The new one with less memory overclocks better...

Well, according to AMD both have the following:

L1 Cache: 128KB + 128KB
L2 Cache: 1MB x2

So I don't know what you mean.

Hellspawn · Post by **Hellspawn** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:22 pm

and mine is the first one listed and it idles at 96f.. Those numbers might mean something to someone, but at load with two instances of cpu loading software at the same time I get 128f at highest load. Exit the programs and it drops to 105f within 1 minute and within 2 minutes it's back to 96.

That's using the amd heatpipe cooler it came with and the asus board with Qfan enabled.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:25 pm

This thread includes a link to a chart of AMD CPU info, pulled straight from amdcompare.com.

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=28725

gustavs_a · Post by **gustavs_a** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:35 am

AMD has changed the CPU info. Look at this:
http://www.boot.lv/forums/viewtopic.php ... 4400daa6cd
(scroll down to the message by Installer)

Some time ago I was even thinking that ADV4400DAA6CD has 128KB less L1 cache.

Slaugh · Post by **Slaugh** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:32 pm

Here's a picture of this Athlon 64 X2...

Hmmm... © 2001 AMD?!?!?

MikeRocker · Post by **MikeRocker** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:48 am

So, for an ignorant newbie, 1)what is the difference and 2)which is better (or which is better for what particular application?)?
Thank you.

omgy · Post by **omgy** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:00 am

Bleh! Just bought a ADA 4400!

1. The differnece is ADA @ 110W vs ADV @ 89W. The ADV will run cooler.
2. The ADV would be easier to cool will low speed fans.

Any possibility of passive cooling with a ninja?

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:29 am

It's an improvement. It's mentioned on this X-bit Labs article about AM2 processors:

Although one of the recent Athlon 64 4400+ modifications with 2.2GHz clock speed boasts 89W TDP.

eoctanker · Post by **eoctanker** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:57 am

This might help out, but I don't remember where I read it... AMD takes their CPUs and during the testing process for QC, they test the wattage and max load and memory for errors. They then ID the 89w vs the 110w and list them as ADA or ADV. The end result, is that the 89w is more efficient than the 110w. That is the only real difference. (although it may work better due to lower resistance...) Marking it ADA vs ADV is a marketing tool so they can sell the ADV for a higher premium. I have seen some web companies raise the price of the ADV by almost $100!!! Luckily Zipzoomfly only raises the value by $9!! So, if you are going for a X2 4400, look and heat/silent is not an issue, it doesn't matter which you buy. But if you are going silent and want low power consumption, go with the 89w.

eoctanker · Post by **eoctanker** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:26 am

This might help out, but I don't remember where I read it... AMD takes their CPUs and during the testing process for QC, they test the wattage and max load and memory for errors. They then ID the 89w vs the 110w and list them as ADA or ADV. The end result, is that the 89w is more efficient than the 110w. That is the only real difference. (although it may work better due to lower resistance...) Marking it ADA vs ADV is a marketing tool so they can sell the ADV for a higher premium. I have seen some web companies raise the price of the ADV by almost $100!!! Luckily Zipzoomfly only raises the value by $9!! So, if you are going for a X2 4400, look and heat/silent is not an issue, it doesn't matter which you buy. But if you are going silent and want low power consumption, go with the 89w.

eoctanker · Post by **eoctanker** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:27 am

This might help out, but I don't remember where I read it... AMD takes their CPUs and during the testing process for QC, they test the wattage and max load and memory for errors. They then ID the 89w vs the 110w and list them as ADA or ADV. The end result, is that the 89w is more efficient than the 110w. That is the only real difference. (although it may work better due to lower resistance...) Marking it ADA vs ADV is a marketing tool so they can sell the ADV for a higher premium. I have seen some web companies raise the price of the ADV by almost $100!!! Luckily Zipzoomfly only raises the value by $9!! So, if you are going for a X2 4400, look and heat/silent is not an issue, it doesn't matter which you buy. But if you are going silent and want low power consumption, go with the 89w.