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Post by loimlo » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:01 pm

Yes, DanceMan is right, E1200 is 1.6G chip. That said, the power consumption is relatively high given such a basic setup. There's must be something wrong.

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Post by kater » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:49 pm

For all we know he could be running at blocked multiplier - in this case 6. He could very well just set one voltage fir this clock.

Here's some figures for Celly 420 and E3200 on my previous MSI board.

Celly 420 @ stock 1,6 @ stock 1,3V
Idle 39W
F@H 53W
Linx 58W

Celly 420 @ 2,66 @ stock 1,3V
Idle 40W
F@H 61W
Linx 69W

E3200 @ stock 2,4 @ stock 1,285V
Idle 38W
F@H 58W
Linx 69W

See any similarities? That's the 65nm vs 45nm process. Speaks for itself.

I've just gotten my brand new shiny G31M and I'm playing with it now. OC, undervolting, stability tests, special GB power saving features and of course wattage. As soon as I'm done testing and putting numers in tables, I'll post it.

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Some quick undervolt (def clock, 1,0V in bios, C1E on, EIST off), >1h Linx stable, and still going to go down 8)

Idle 35W
F@H 42W
LinX 52W

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Post by Wilhelm-Tell » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:30 am

DanceMan wrote:
Wilhelm-Tell wrote:I'm running my E1200 at stock speed and 0.9V.
No, it's running at 0.9V at idle under EIST (Speedstepping).
Setting in bios is 0,9V or 0,87 now.

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measured it with one of these, not sure how accurate they are. BTW the Maxtor drive gets pretty hot. Modern drives runs a lot cooler.

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Post by flapane » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:41 am

Yeah it could be old maxtor's and 65nm's fault, I'd swear on it.
I should use a 7200rpm 200gb Samsung (not as green as my own f2 and f3 5400rpm but... better than nothing).

Some quick undervolt (def clock, 1,0V in bios, C1E on, EIST off), >1h Linx stable, and still going to go down 8)

Idle 35W
F@H 42W
LinX 52W

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omg, can't wait to get my hands on e3400 (I'm still waiting for my local dealer to buy it).
I think you can go even lower, maybe 0.9v.

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Post by flapane » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:21 am

e3400 won't arrive soon, never mind :(

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Post by flapane » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:02 am

Just finished mounting it!
However I don't understand why does one core only is shown, while they should be two.

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cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 23
model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU        E3300  @ 2.50GHz
stepping        : 10
cpu MHz         : 1203.000
cache size      : 1024 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips        : 5003.89
clflush size    : 64

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Post by kater » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:54 am

Could be that bios is not that fresh?

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Post by flapane » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:03 am

Already upgraded to the latest one (dec2009)

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Post by flapane » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:20 am

Lowest stable vcore.
Not bad at 2.5ghz and stock low profile heatsink with arctic silver 5.
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Does anybody know if I can lower the other voltages such as NB, FSB and so on?

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Post by MtnHermit » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:42 am

flapane wrote:Lowest stable vcore.
Not bad at 2.5ghz
Both of those graphics say to me you're running at 1.2GHz, NOT 2.5GHz. What am I missing?

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Post by Trav1s » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:46 am

MtnHermit wrote:
flapane wrote:Lowest stable vcore.
Not bad at 2.5ghz
Both of those graphics say to me you're running at 1.2GHz, NOT 2.5GHz. What am I missing?
EIST enabled and it throttles back to the 6x multiplier.

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Post by flapane » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:47 am

Look at the third one.
TESTS: 5 out of 5 passed (100%).
At that point, the load dropped to 0% (as shown in coretemp), and the frequency dropped to 1200.
I didn't want to take a screen while testing, as I NEVER touch anything, under testing.

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Post by flapane » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:21 am

New test for MtnHermit happines, with a slightly lower voltage, and with every mother board voltage (VTT, NB, SB) set to the minimum available.
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Post by flapane » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:26 am

While waiting for a hd503hi in the place of an old noisy 40gb:

48,5 idle
69 intel burn test
74 intel burn test, furmark
16,5 lcd

pfc 0.85 in idle
0.9 in full load.

Any toughts?

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Post by flapane » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:11 am

A couple of watt less by installing the hd503hi:

47w idle PFC 0,86
63,5w idle+lcd

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Post by QuietOC » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:33 am

Desktop LGA775 sucks power. Why not just get a CULV laptop?

$400 gets you

5.5W TDP 1.4GHz Core 2 Solo SU3500
GMA 4500MHD
ICH10M which supports SATA multipliers
up to 8GB of DDR2-800 (using somewhat expensive 4GB SODIMMs)
Lower power use than Atom N270 netbooks.

I am about ready to sell my G31M-ES2L + E5200. They have held up quite well for their age, but the AMD "Regor" Athlon II's are cheaper and can overclock and undervolt better (and at the same time!) and 740G/785G are much better chipsets.

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Post by flapane » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:11 am

Because I paid 130eur for this, and am selling the old stuff (athlon xp) for about 100e, and a CULV is probably even less fast than athlon xp.
Assuming some 15w for your laptop vs 47w for my build, I won't save those 400$ on the electrical bill in the next decade (furthermore, we are going to die in 2012 :lol: )

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Post by flapane » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:18 pm

idle temps, one 80mm rear fan only
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Post by Zargon » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:18 am

just bumping this to say thanks for all the info in it, ordering the board to replace a wonky g31 board in my wife's pc

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Post by flapane » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:50 am

You're welcome, it's always a good thing to share my own results.

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Post by kater » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:04 am

While I'm very happy with my GB G31 board, I'm swapping it for a similar Asus with HDMI. First of all, it won't cost me ;), second - the Asus undervolts as well, third - has HDMI, fourth - I need change from time to time to keep me entertained ;)
Oh, and I'm ditching the GT220 - it only adds to the power consumption and is just to strong for playing HD content.

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