Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:40 am
Nice price too. A Yate Loon for not much more than a Glacialtech......joe123 wrote:Yate Loons fans can now be bought in Australia from Gammods :
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.p ... cPath=7_12
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Nice price too. A Yate Loon for not much more than a Glacialtech......joe123 wrote:Yate Loons fans can now be bought in Australia from Gammods :
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.p ... cPath=7_12
PCCaseGear wrote:Unfortunately we don't do the Nexus power supplies at the moment. However we're well aware how good the Nexus Value 430 is, and hope to be including a small quantity of these (<50) in our next Nexus shipment.
The price difference you see is because they are two different products! Don't worry, it's an easy mistake. The first is the Rev.B of the BIG Ninja. Nexus has always had the best price in Oz for that particular product. It's long been discontinued but Nexus still lists it. The second is the Rev.B of the MINI Ninja - which appears to be quite new.Firetech wrote:Interesting to see the price difference between the Scythe Ninja costs of PCCG and Nexus. Someone is making a tidy profit but that tends to happen if there is a monopoly in supply....
Hey, you could have snuck a few things in hand carrying only luggage. If they did a bag search on you, they might be wondering what that Ninja or Mugen was in your backpack. "We got some kind of an ancient artifact here?" Might have been spending a bit of time in customs. J/KFiretech wrote:I noticed how cheap these coolers were when I was over in the UK recently but unfortunately didn't have any spare baggage allowance to take advantage
I already had various items stuffed in hand luggage including camera gear, a netbook, PicoPSU and a hefty Dell DA-2 powerbrick I'd just bought. A 500+g cooler would have been pushing it!Shamgar wrote:Hey, you could have snuck a few things in hand carrying only luggage. If they did a bag search on you, they might be wondering what that Ninja or Mugen was in your backpack. "We got some kind of an ancient artifact here?" Might have been spending a bit of time in customs. J/K
Hey, that's some good gear you got there. Pity there was no more room.Firetech wrote:I already had various items stuffed in hand luggage including camera gear, a netbook, PicoPSU and a hefty Dell DA-2 powerbrick I'd just bought. A 500+g cooler would have been pushing it!Shamgar wrote:Hey, you could have snuck a few things in hand carrying only luggage. If they did a bag search on you, they might be wondering what that Ninja or Mugen was in your backpack. "We got some kind of an ancient artifact here?" Might have been spending a bit of time in customs. J/K
You're right there. PCCG do have somewhat of a monopoly here. But it would be worst if they didn't exist, since they force other stores to at least get in similar products to compete. I emailed PCCG some time ago and got on their case a bit about how much higher their prices were than the competition. Their reply was that they do not have a pricematching policy at present. I sort of took this as a "Buy from someone else then, you cheapskate" . I have noticed recently however their prices are among the best and their overall pricing strategy has greatly improved. Hopefully, this means better competition and better prices for us all.Firetech wrote:As regards PCCG and the Ninjas. I bought my original one from them and I appreciate that they keep a lot of stock of specialist items, it's just that where they have a monopoly on an item they tend price it up.
I remember when they were the only ones to do Thermalright the prices were high but as soon as other vendors started selling them the prices plummeted to match.
Just my observation and maybe it's all related to grey market imports vs official distributor channels etc etc?
Thanks for the encouragment.HueyCobra wrote:Great work Shamgar.
Shamgar, you may be interested in this discussion on warranties & consumer rights as per the ACCC.Shamgar wrote:But some of these online stores only give a 3-6 months warranty; after that, you have to RMA direct with the manufacturer.
Unfortunately that is often quite true. However, I would suggest that it is still very worthwhile for consumers to know and understand their statutory rights, added to their own level of personal caution in choosing which businesses to deal with.Shamgar wrote:And to also respond to HueyCobra (thanks for your input BTW), even though ACCC and Consumer Protection in each of our states is available, they can't seem to do much, unless you really want to take the fight up to the dodgy business in question.
Well, mini-itx.com is UK based, hence the woeful shipping charges. My point still standsShamgar wrote: Good to hear you got your money back in any case. Oh well, judging from your experiences (and others) I guess these mini PC dealers in Oz aren't that great when it comes to order time.
That explains the shipping cost then. Isn't mini-box.com.au a more sensible place to go to now, seeing as it's based in Australia and their prices aren't that bad?damien wrote:Well, mini-itx.com is UK based, hence the woeful shipping charges. My point still stands
I think one of the worst things I've had to deal with when shopping is businesses who flat out deny giving a refund under any circumstances when the law says otherwise. They will talk themselves out of it and give you an option for exchange or a credit note/gift card to equal value. According to Consumer Protection, it is illegal to deny a refund if a product is found to be faulty, it doesn't do as advertised or you purchased something that doesn't match what you asked for in the store. There are probably other situations as well like recalls where you should get a refund if you don't want a replacement. You don't know how many times I've had to explain this to stores and so many of them are not interested in cooperating. In the end, I just accept the credit note or gift voucher because I don't have the time nor energy to keep fighting with them.HueyCobra wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing it developed into a hard-cover edition so customers could really throw the book at unscrupulous businesses
See my post in this thread on them.... my experience (for the same part!) wasn't exactly positive either.Shamgar wrote:That explains the shipping cost then. Isn't mini-box.com.au a more sensible place to go to now, seeing as it's based in Australia and their prices aren't that bad?damien wrote:Well, mini-itx.com is UK based, hence the woeful shipping charges. My point still stands
Thanks. It could be better, but it will have to do for now.theycallmebruce wrote:Nice list Shamgar!
Waiting months for something is pretty pathetic. Especially when you get two thirds of the parts you ordered and you can't build the rest of the system without the other parts. Seems to be a common problem though. That reminds me of a situation I had several years ago with a vendor in Perth, but I don't want to go into that as it stirs up too many painful memories. Getting burnt by these vultures is not something I want to experience or remember again.theycallmebruce wrote:These days, I never buy anything unless the retailer has it in stock. If it needs to be ordered in, you never know when (or even if!) it will arrive. I have only made one order with MiniBox, a couple of years ago. It took months (and several emails - couldn't get through on the phone) to arrive. Never again.
Welcome to the dullest capital city in the entire world! A good thing too, honestly. I mean, do you really want to live in a crowded, 24 hour city with a 5 million plus population and air pollution thick enough you can't see through it? I like Perth the way it is, actually, the way it was a few years ago. If it's boring, so be it.theycallmebruce wrote:I'm in Perth too.
Sound advice. Something I have to always remember. However, only Netplus is upfront with their stock levels. The rest either don't indicate, are vague or make shallow promises. I'm sure you know which ones are which as there's only a handful of stores here.theycallmebruce wrote:For what it's worth, I tend to use one of two computer stores these days. Golden rule with these stores is only order if it is in stock:
Some of their prices are unbelievably low. The other stores must be so jealous and wonder, "How?" They are not for the inexperienced. If you don't know what you're after, don't bother, I'd say. Their stores have nothing on display; it's all behind the counter. You ask, they look, they find, you nod, you buy, you get, you leave. Welcome to the world of MSY! For the enthusiast, this system works well, but for the average joe who normally shops at HN's, it might be a bit of a shock to the system. BTW, I've heard some conspiracy theories about MSY, some pretty far fetched it seems.theycallmebruce wrote:MSY: Stock Antec cases and various quiet PSUs. Usually have the best prices in W.A. (or even in Australia).
Thanks for the tip. I'll have a look at it some time.theycallmebruce wrote:Terrible website, but google for "MSY but readable" -
I've emailed the Balcatta store a number of times just to "test them out". It's a good strategy to employ, to see how interested a vendor is in your business. They always replied promptly (same day!), to the point and told me what I needed to know. However, it's best to call up beforehand on the day that you want to drop in and pick up an item. I've only been there once so far to pick up a set of speakers.theycallmebruce wrote:However, there are times when they don't answer the phone (presumably too busy) and that's the only way to check whether they have something in stock.
NP aren't known for friendly customer service. They are efficient and no nonsense. But they are quite reliable and usually will not lead you up the garden path. NP is probably the one still to beat (although MSY are going to give them a run for their money in coming years, assuming they keep a presence in Perth).theycallmebruce wrote:NetPlus: Good prices, great website (shows stock levels). Stock some quiet gear. System builder tool on website. I use them for PCs I buy for my office. Customer service is good, but they try to get you off the phone or out of the store quickly (not that they are rude, just always very busy). Best if you know exactly what you want before you call or go there.
Familiar story. You are not alone. I haven't actually been "burnt" yet by them; they were actually quite helpful with getting me some parts when no one else had them in stock, or if they did, the price was too high. The problem I do have though is that some of those parts I bought from them aren't working as they should. I have already contacted them and the manufacturer about that. So we'll see how it goes. In future however, I will avoid buying from them for the sake of saving myself some potential grief.theycallmebruce wrote:I used to buy from Austin, but got burnt once, and have heard a lot of horror stories.
The MSY scraper is at http://msy.arpatubes.net/ and was created by sbobz on Whirlpool.theycallmebruce wrote:Terrible website, but google for "MSY but readable" - somebody created a script to scrape their price list and present it in a much more useable format!
They then sent me an e-mail the next day telling me they had one fan left... but I don't want to buy one as it would mean that I'd be paying for postage again when purchasing the other three.Unfortunately the Nexus products that we sell on our site we directly import from Nexus themselves. And at the present time we aren’t looking at ordering anymore. This may change in the future, but no plans at the moment to import Nexus products unfortunately.
<cut... to save repetitive space... responding to previous post, obviously>adikt wrote:Hey another aussie here, first post.
Basically I'm trying to silence my PC that I use for gaming and as a DAW. I've looked everywhere for Nexus 92mm fans (I need four) and the only place that seems to stock Nexus products is PCCG.
Hi. Welcome to the SPCR forums. I myself have been away for a while.adikt wrote:Any help is much appreciated.