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MonsterMac: This is what I am planning to have:
MSI K8T Neo2-FIR (Socket 939) VIA K8T800 Pro S939 motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3500 (Socket 939)
Artic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Nexus AOP-6400 (AMD CPU Cooler: Noise Level: 19 dB(A)) or Ultra Vortex KCC-V91
XFX GEFORCE 6800 128 MB DDR DUAL DVI & TV OUT
Arctic Cooling NV silencer 5 (for GEFORCE 6800)
OCZ Platinum PC-3200 512mbx2 400DDR OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K
Antec SLK3700-BQE
SilenX 120mm 11 dBA Fan (or Nexus or AcoustiFan)
AcoustiPack Pre-cut for Antec BQE
9in1 Cardreader + USB+Audio+Firewire in Black
Samsung 172X LCD (12ms) (two)
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse PS2/USB 119
NEC ND-3500 16x Dual Layer Black DVD +/- R/RW oem
Asus DRW-0804P 8x +/-R/RW Black
160 Gig SATA Samsung Spinpoint Quiet Hard Drive -NIDEC version (two)
and a PSU (still to decide which one)
Sthayashi, are you sure is soo good (better than the ones mentioned?). I am asking because in the forum (this one and others) there are almost 50/50 divided opinions.
MSI K8T Neo2-FIR (Socket 939) VIA K8T800 Pro S939 motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3500 (Socket 939)
Artic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Nexus AOP-6400 (AMD CPU Cooler: Noise Level: 19 dB(A)) or Ultra Vortex KCC-V91
XFX GEFORCE 6800 128 MB DDR DUAL DVI & TV OUT
Arctic Cooling NV silencer 5 (for GEFORCE 6800)
OCZ Platinum PC-3200 512mbx2 400DDR OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K
Antec SLK3700-BQE
SilenX 120mm 11 dBA Fan (or Nexus or AcoustiFan)
AcoustiPack Pre-cut for Antec BQE
9in1 Cardreader + USB+Audio+Firewire in Black
Samsung 172X LCD (12ms) (two)
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse PS2/USB 119
NEC ND-3500 16x Dual Layer Black DVD +/- R/RW oem
Asus DRW-0804P 8x +/-R/RW Black
160 Gig SATA Samsung Spinpoint Quiet Hard Drive -NIDEC version (two)
and a PSU (still to decide which one)
Sthayashi, are you sure is soo good (better than the ones mentioned?). I am asking because in the forum (this one and others) there are almost 50/50 divided opinions.
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300 watt is *all* you'll need
Hello:
I have built three Athlon 64 machines and four Athlon XP machines, many of which are very similar to your spec's -- and I have always used a 300watt power supply. You don't need a 400watt PS, pure and simple.
My choices would be a SeaSonic Super Tornado 300watt, or if you already have excellent case air flow, then the CleverPower 300watt -- though this one will not fit in the BQE w/o a small modification to the PS opening.
I have built three Athlon 64 machines and four Athlon XP machines, many of which are very similar to your spec's -- and I have always used a 300watt power supply. You don't need a 400watt PS, pure and simple.
My choices would be a SeaSonic Super Tornado 300watt, or if you already have excellent case air flow, then the CleverPower 300watt -- though this one will not fit in the BQE w/o a small modification to the PS opening.
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Saiya-Jin, I'm using a Fortron FSP300-60PN (300watts) to power:
ABIT AN7 mainboard
Mobile Barton at 2640MHz and 2.156Volts (approx. 145Watts, MP) CPU
Two 512MB pieces of OCZ Enhanced Latency PC3200 DDR SDRAM with 11-3-2 2.5 1T timings and stock 2.65Volts
6800 GT at 440/1175 GPU (see Bit-Tech's article on GPU power, linked on the front page; my card consumes 55.39Watts at stock speed)
Samsung SpinPoint SP1614N HDD
Samsung SD-816B DVD-ROM
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
Two Antec 120mm fans
C-Systems CSP-750 12V water pump
...and my stock fan in the PSU has even be swapped for a much slower undervolted Globe 120.
My system draws more power than your machine can ever hope to (unless you start water cooling and overclocking extremely hard), as your CPU puts out under 100watts MP and your standard 6800 consumes only 38.88Watts under maximum load at stock speed. One extra Raptor would never push your total power up to the level of my machine.
Keep in mind Fortron's PSUs aren't even the most efficient; SeaSonic and Enermax's NoiseTakers are more efficient still.
Still think you need 400watts?
ABIT AN7 mainboard
Mobile Barton at 2640MHz and 2.156Volts (approx. 145Watts, MP) CPU
Two 512MB pieces of OCZ Enhanced Latency PC3200 DDR SDRAM with 11-3-2 2.5 1T timings and stock 2.65Volts
6800 GT at 440/1175 GPU (see Bit-Tech's article on GPU power, linked on the front page; my card consumes 55.39Watts at stock speed)
Samsung SpinPoint SP1614N HDD
Samsung SD-816B DVD-ROM
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
Two Antec 120mm fans
C-Systems CSP-750 12V water pump
...and my stock fan in the PSU has even be swapped for a much slower undervolted Globe 120.
My system draws more power than your machine can ever hope to (unless you start water cooling and overclocking extremely hard), as your CPU puts out under 100watts MP and your standard 6800 consumes only 38.88Watts under maximum load at stock speed. One extra Raptor would never push your total power up to the level of my machine.
Keep in mind Fortron's PSUs aren't even the most efficient; SeaSonic and Enermax's NoiseTakers are more efficient still.
Still think you need 400watts?
In my opinion, if you're looking to build a silent pc, the higher the power output of a psu, the better. This is the case if you are planning on modding the psu with a very slow spinning fan, and if you buy a psu from a good company.
I refer you to a quote from MikeC's article on PSU's:
I refer you to a quote from MikeC's article on PSU's:
It's true that you don't 'need' a higher power psu for your system, but if you don't ever want to worry about psu failure as a result of a very low spinning fan, then I suggest you get a high powered psu."The main benefit of higher power PSUs is when the airflow in the PSU is deliberately set very low in order to minimize noise. This means the PSU components will run hotter. All other things being equal, a higher rated PSU will be a better choice in such an application because its parts are generally rated for higher current and heat than a lower rated model.
on the other hand, some PSUs rated for like 500W are far less efficient than "normal" PSUs if they're only required to supply a more typical 150W or so, meaning more heat than normal.
it does seem kind of backwards and i wish i could remember the article i'm thinking of, but i distinctly remember a recent review of a noisetaker or neopower or a Fortron PSU or something you would assume to be fairly good, and while it was remarkably efficient at near max load, that fell off to like 65% at a more typical load.
it does seem kind of backwards and i wish i could remember the article i'm thinking of, but i distinctly remember a recent review of a noisetaker or neopower or a Fortron PSU or something you would assume to be fairly good, and while it was remarkably efficient at near max load, that fell off to like 65% at a more typical load.
Thank you all.
100% I agree. This is the reason why I am considering 400w PSU. In many reviews it seems that the Fan enters at full power much later (i.e. 300w) and keeps silent until then...
In my opinion, if you're looking to build a silent pc, the higher the power output of a psu, the better. This is the case if you are planning on modding the psu with a very slow spinning fan, and if you buy a psu from a good company.
100% I agree. This is the reason why I am considering 400w PSU. In many reviews it seems that the Fan enters at full power much later (i.e. 300w) and keeps silent until then...