PSUs: The source of DC power for all components in the PC & often a big noise source.
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Bitter Jitter
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by Bitter Jitter » Fri May 06, 2005 1:35 pm
mb2 wrote:400w green power is available
here in the UK (or atleast in '1-3 Days').. for £65.68 inc vat.. rather more pricey than i would have hoped..
is it possible that the Zen is just a Green Power with massive heatsinks?
It's still 1-3 days and thats 5 days after your post! It's certainly more expensive than I would have imagined, i'm sure it will drop.
It seems logical to assume that the Zen and Green Power use the same electronics, although you never know.....
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by winguy » Sat May 07, 2005 2:19 am
The Green Power 400W is selling for ~SGD$110 (~USD$68) in my country, but from previous comments I guess the fan ain't the best out there. Efficiency figures do look promising though...
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by winguy » Mon May 09, 2005 6:35 am
According to
here, at 115V,
required minimum efficiency is 75% @ full load, 75% @ ~50% load and 70% @ ~20% load.
I wonder what
required minimum efficiency means...
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by Devonavar » Mon May 09, 2005 10:21 am
My guess is they've taken the table from p.18 of the
official ATX12V specs and modified it for their own purposes.
Note that the reguired minimum efficiency specified by FormFactors.org (Intel) is 5-10% lower than the spec sheet for the Green Power across the board.
I would say that
required minimum efficiency is a badly translated version of minimum specified efficiency, and that testing is done according to the load pattern specified in the document I linked to above.
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by winguy » Tue May 17, 2005 7:28 am
a FSP400-60GLN review
here (bad one)
googling returned
another review (some noise figures on page 3)
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by DyJohnnY » Tue May 17, 2005 7:59 am
poor review IMO
another review not silence oriented though
...complaining about too few molexes, as if those things don't cost 50cents at any store, and as if ppl didn't have at least 1 old psu in their closet.
http://www.pcextreme-fr.com/article.php ... -60GLN.php
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by winguy » Tue May 17, 2005 8:15 am
DyJohnnY wrote:poor review IMO
another review not silence oriented though
...complaining about too few molexes, as if those things don't cost 50cents at any store, and as if ppl didn't have at least 1 old psu in their closet.
http://www.pcextreme-fr.com/article.php ... -60GLN.php
Thanks, that cleared my doubts.
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by scaryduck » Sun May 22, 2005 3:11 am
The
FSP Zen is now available from Pixmania for £84 plus delivery. Tempted to swap my Phantom for a Zen...
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by DyJohnnY » Mon May 30, 2005 1:43 pm
i'm really into this PSU, either this or the bluestorm 400W and a fanswap, applicable for both models [yes, modding does not scare me, i will hopefully have some yate loons to spare soon]
Though i cannot understand....this PSU has so few partssss
compared to the bluestorm that has big heatsinks, tons more parts...this one has active PFC [which i think would require more parts than PFC] and it's smaller...all around.
Could the greenpower be *missing* someting? or is it just better and something so new that seasonic and Antec and all the others have not figured out yet?
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by winguy » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:54 pm
Can the FSP Zen be used on a 20-pin ATX motherboard by using any 24-to-20 pin adaptor? From reviews it doesn't seem to come with 1...
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by Slaugh » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:54 am
winguy wrote:Can the FSP Zen be used on a 20-pin ATX motherboard by using any 24-to-20 pin adaptor? From reviews it doesn't seem to come with 1...
I don't see any problem using a 24-to-20 pins adaptor on a 20 pins motherboard. I use one of these myself for my Phantom. The one shipped with the PSU was broken so I bought a new one. However, you may have troubles if you use a 20-to-24 pins adaptor on a 24 pins motherboard, but is not your case.
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by mb2 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:37 am
400w greenpower is also available at pixmania for a much nicer £39+ del
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by DyJohnnY » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:03 pm
anyone bought one of these?
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by mattthemuppet » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:05 am
nice one mb2, that's the best price yet (£45.60 delivered)
now just debating between this + nexus vs. S12-430
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by technarch » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:01 pm
In case anyone is curious, I asked Fortron if the circuit board on the Green Power was the same as on their fanless Zen PSU and they said no.
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by Tamas » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:30 pm
My friend held the FSP Green Power, but the Protechnic fan became more louder, so we made a fan swap today.
The old fan was: Protechnic MGA12012LR-A25 12V 0,3A
The new fan: Chieftec / Yate Loon D12SM-12 12V 0,3A
http://www.ichbinleise.de/product_info. ... 78094991f0
The PSU now very quiet, the new Yate Loon fan is smooth & not resonates.
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by Silencium » Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:05 pm
the acbel ps seems nice as well
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by mattthemuppet » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:05 am
sorry to be dense, but is the MB plug at 20+4 arrangement or 24? Just need to know if I have to get an adapter with it to work on my 20pin motherboard
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by mattthemuppet » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:38 am
well, just got mine from Pixmania for a sniff under £48. I agree with Tamas - the original fan does make a ticking sound. So I replaced it with a Yate Loon D12SM - much smoother sound, no ticking, but same amount of airflow noise. So, stuck a D12SL in instead and it's virtually silent! Exhaust is cool so an SL seems to be enough for my fairly low powered system (Sempron 2400, 1 HDD, FX5200) - if I get more powerful components I can always put the SM back in. Only problem is that the (very) open design of the PSU means more CPU HSF noise escapes from the case - ARGH! Or perhaps I just didn't hear it so much over my TP350S?
Impressive design though - very minimalist inside, very unobstructed airflow (the PCB leaves enough space for a 25mm fan at the exhaust, though it wouldn't fit under the 120mm fan) and the middle heatsink is also thermally bonded to the back of the PSU case - perhaps that's one reason they can get away with such tiny tiny flat heatsinks? Less weight should save me about 0.5kg on my baggage allowance to NZ too
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by mattthemuppet » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:31 am
the one in the 1st link looks identical, no idea about the others though
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Ironic
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by Ironic » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:24 am
Looks like it's a sleeve bearing protechnic.
Go to the amacrox site, they have a link to a french review (pc update).
It seems to be a good psu.
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by EricTerminator » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:41 pm
Hi all !
The Fortron Green Power FSP400-60GLN IS a good PSU.
Mike did test it, and I agree with him ; I tested it, and its noise is very low, and I measured an efficiency at full load on my rig of 83.25%, using the European AC 220V, with an error of 1.92%.
I wrote (in French) my test here :
http://www.pcsilencieux.com/forum/viewt ... c&start=60
See you
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by kjf105 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:38 pm
I got one from Newegg in early November and just put it into a system this evening. Unfortunately mine has really bad coil whine. I tested it on a Dell 4500 (P4 2.8, 20 pin mobo). I tried swapping connectors and even a different hard drive. That changed the pitch of the noise but it was still there. Hopefully before I RMA it to Newegg I can try it on another computer to see if it is any better.
Edit: just to clarify mine was the
FSP400-60GLN
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by NeilBlanchard » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:03 am
Hello,
The 300watt "Green" PS I got from NewEgg is very quiet. And has no coil whine as far as I can tell, anyway.
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by mino » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:20 am
mb2 wrote:looking at the small internal size of this (and being as i stupidly recently broke my m-ATX psu
) it makes me wonder about the potential of modding this into a M-ATX psu?
the only possible problem i can see is the 'width' of the board?.. anyone got any dimensions?
makes u wonder why no one produces more powerful m-ATX psus!.. (~280w is the most powerful IIRC.. someone correct me if u know better)
and any word on availablilty or pricing in the uk? ..i'm hoping this 'low raw materials use' idea translates to low cost too!
i'm hoping that nexus take this and mod it with monster heatsinks
Hi, I usually not stop here very often but your comment caught my sight.
Try FSP300-60GLS, AFAIK those are the most efficient mATX parts. The parameters are pretty much like FSP300-60GLN so I gues they use the same electrical design concept.
We bought 2 of these as replacement parts and they are great, low heat and the quitest mATX parts we have seen so far.
just now read the dates