Anyone with a Corsair VX450 for over a year, can you measure

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Anyone with a Corsair VX450 for over a year, can you measure

Post by nstarz » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:59 pm

Hi,

I have a Corsair VX450 and it seems to be loud. I found this program (which I realize was suggested deep inside this forum too) called TrueRTA.

Site: http://www.trueaudio.com/rta_abt1.htm
Download: http://www.trueaudio.com/downloads/TrueRTA_se.exe

Anyways, I remember this use to be quiet and wonder if it just got too dusty or was it age. I got an RMA on it, but before sending it wanted to know what others may experienced.

Accordin to http://www.silentpcreview.com/article751-page5.html it should be 22 dBA@1m up to 250W. I will get a Kill-a-Watt to check how much watt it uses later too.

I have a E8400 @ 10% CPU, Antec Solo case and turned off other fans momentarily.

So I was wondering if you have a Corsair VX450, can you run TrueRTA and see what db SPL you get?

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Post by MikeC » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:43 pm

Unless the other vx450 users have an accurate mic and a way to calibrate the program to the sensitivity/output level of the mic (so that 22 dBA measured is really 22 dBA), TrueRTA is useless. Do you have a mic & calibrator?

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Post by nstarz » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:22 am

A mic + Room EQ Wizard, good enough?

Calibration Steps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21wUsNfF2Lw

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Post by MikeC » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:02 am

nstarz wrote:A mic + Room EQ Wizard, good enough?

Calibration Steps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21wUsNfF2Lw
Nope.

That's a process to calibrate a sound card before looking at room equalization for a HT receiver. It's using a signal played through speakers -- and there's no indication of mic sensitivity. Mics/SLMs are not calibrated this way.

Here's the way mic calibration works:

1) a mic level calibrator is needed. this is a device engineered to produce a tone at 1000hz that is 94 dB at the mic when it is fitted directly over the mic head. it has to fit very tightly; otherwise other sounds can change that 94 dB level. One reason the level is set so high is so that the calibration can be done even in pretty loud conditions (say up to 85 dB). There is usually an alternate level of 104 dB. The most precise mic calibrators are guaranteed accurate at wide atmospheric pressure (altitude) humidity and temp -- and cost $3~4000.

2) The calibration tone produces a certain output level from the mic; this level is = to 94 dB. So the RTA sound software (or sound meter) you are using should read 94 dB. If it does not, then the input sensitivity is adjusted in the program to give 94 dB reading.

3) once the above is done, then the mic is calibrated to give accurate SPL (dB) readings with the software. If you change the mic, the calibration has to be re-done, as the sensitivity (output level for given volume "seen" by a mic) differs from mic to mic.

In our lab, we check the mic calibration around once a week or whenever we suspect something is off. But because the mic and its preamp is left on 24/7 (electronics always warm, mic always charged) and rarely leaves the well-insulated environment of the anechoic chamber, it rarely is out even 0.5 dBA.

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Post by zsl1010 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:51 am

MikeC wrote: In our lab, we check the mic calibration around once a week or whenever we suspect something is off. But because the mic and its preamp is left on 24/7 (electronics always warm, mic always charged) and rarely leaves the well-insulated environment of the anechoic chamber, it rarely is out even 0.5 dBA.
0.5 dB or 0.5 dBA?

A limit of ± 0.5 dB with respect to 94 dBA SPL would mean the range 0.944 Pa to 1.059 Pa SPL.

0.5 dBA SPL is only slightly larger than 20 µPa and the range concerned is from 0.99998 Pa to 1.00002 Pa SPL.

Therefore if a sound level meter, for example, reads 94.3 dBA upon applying a 94.0 dB SPL reference source, the deviation I think is 0.3 dB rather than 0.3 dBA.

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Post by yuu » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:03 am

Is is spinning up or is it its normal fan speed.

Mine is spinning up at 150W wall at >30C room, and >300W at 18C room, the review would be accurate at 18C if i had to compare it to my experience.

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Post by MikeC » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:19 pm

zsl1010 wrote:0.5 dB or 0.5 dBA?
0.5 dB. Actually rarely above 0.3 dB

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Post by nstarz » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:28 am

Thanks for the info.

Corsair has allowed me to RMA the PSU. I just learn their location is in Fremont, so I can just drive up there and trade it in, in one trip.

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