Which SILENT psu to get in Europe?

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:41 am

Hi to you all this is my first post here!

First of all I would like to thank you guys for the advice you've given to others from which I’ve learnt a lot.

Now to my problem, my current psu is very loud and sounds almost as much as my TV with a reasonable volume... It hurts my ears while sitting to long in front of my PC which happens often.

So which very silent psu is there to get in Europe? My criterias are silence, stability and airflow. And a reasonable price isn't bad either

So which psus do you recommend? I remind you that the Forton psu is not silent in Europe because of the EU standards.

On a German site I spotted these psus: What do you think?

http://www.blacknoise.de/shop/en_EN/pro ... _Watt.html
ca. 14-19 dB/A

http://www.blacknoise.de/shop/en_EN/pro ... ition.html
Low= 10 dB/A, High = 22 dB/A = Auto = 10 - 22 dB/A

http://www.blacknoise.de/shop/en_EN/pro ... elais.html
ca. 11-20 dB/A

Thanks in advance!

jojo4u · Post by **jojo4u** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:36 am

There is a new star on the european sky. The Ultra Silent line from TSP. They are the successor of the former line which where regarded as good working horses for the buy and forget customer. In a review it is rated very good. Unfortunately in german only.

Here the test.
http://hartware.de/review.html?id=362&page=18
The 350W version should be enough for you. Blackline are nearly carbon copies but with a black case.

The sound is measured with quite professional equipment. For a reference, look here. Both sites are cooperating, but this one has not been updated yet. So you have to look at the former tested 420W version.
http://dirkvader.de/page/top-420p4.html

Here one shop in germany. Does not ship internationally. Only to give you a clue.
https://www.pc-cooling.de/catalog/artik ... th=159_162

sorenbro · Post by **sorenbro** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:56 am

If you want both high airflow and low noise then you should look into getting a PSU with a 120mm fan.
Seeing as I live in Denmark I had the same problem when I was selecting a PSU, and decided that I would order from the USA. At this time PSUs with 120mm fans where nowhere to be found, and I ordered a silenX, and it has not disappointed.
But today there are loads of PSUs available with 120mm fans, even here in the EU. I know that in Denmark you can buy some Seasonic models with 120mm fans, and they are reasonably cheap too (399kr)

the_bfg · Post by **the_bfg** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:58 am

Tjena TobiWan,

Här har du några svenska siter med silent prylar:

www.whynoi.se
www.gtek.se
www.overclockers.se
www.pyrotech.se
kylning.com

de verkar dock nästan alla ha samma sortiment...

men vilka som är bäst får du fråga experterna om - jag försöker själv hitta välja en!

/bfg

the_bfg · Post by **the_bfg** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:08 pm

sorenbro : do you know any danish webshops that sell the seasonic range? they're tricky to find in Sweden and the UK...

/bfg

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:12 pm

Thank you for the answer jojo4u but my impression (do not know german well) is that there not to silent. Or are they?

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:18 pm

the_bfg jag har varit inne på de hemsidorna och jag tänker göra en VÄLDIGT tyst dator så de duger inte åt mig... Undantaget är whynois nätagg men de är dyra.

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:20 pm

The best alternative yet seems to be http://www.blacknoise.de/shop/en_EN/pro ... elais.html it is a bit expensive but maybee they are worth the money. It is silent if the specs are correct and the 120mm fan should give it a good airflow.

jojo4u · Post by **jojo4u** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 1:07 pm

Tobi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Thank you for the answer jojo4u but my impression (do not know german well) is that there not to silent. Or are they?

There are some other silent psu in comparism. For example the Zalman 300 AFP wich has been reviewed here as SPCR.

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:56 pm

There is only 0.7dB difference between the TSP ultra silent and the zalman 400W in idle mode. I do not consider the zalman to be a silent psu so I do not think the TSP is silent enough

But please come with other suggestions...

Tigr · Post by **Tigr** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:20 am

The choice is quite limited in Europe. After going through a few PSUs I finally stoppped at Zalman. It is not totally silent but keeps very, very quiet. You know, the sound of air flowing ...

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:59 am

Tigr wrote:The choice is quite limited in Europe. After going through a few PSUs I finally stoppped at Zalman. It is not totally silent but keeps very, very quiet. You know, the sound of air flowing ...

I have certinly noticed the limited choise

At this time I think I will go for a psu from www.backnoise.de...

But I hope there are some other suggestions

the_bfg · Post by **the_bfg** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:07 am

Breaking news - got a fast reply from Kool'n'Quiet here in the UK when I asked them about the Seasonic Super Silencer 400 (the highest SPCR ranked PSU):

Hello Martin

Thank you for your e mail.

Yes. These are due in the UK around 8 Dec. The SS-400AGX is the Super Silencer 400. This will come in a retail box with 3 year's warranty. I don't have any firm prices but it will be around £75 retail. Seasonic are fixing the European retail prices.

I'll e mail you when I have firm delivery dates/ prices.

Thanks again.

best regards, Paul Haussauer - Kool 'n Quiet

I for one will be ordering it the minute he has stock!

/bfg

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:52 am

do you have an url to that dealer?

moving shadow · Post by **moving shadow** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:19 am

Tobi-Wan Kenobi wrote:do you have an url to that dealer?

http://www.koolnquiet.co.uk

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 12:20 pm

thanks

the_bfg · Post by **the_bfg** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 1:04 pm

soz about not including contact info, thought it was mentioned earlier in the post...

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 1:58 pm

I must say it is a ****ing jungle out there

!

I´m now seriously considering watercooling but it is so expensive..
What do you think? I saw a watercooled psu today it seemed cool

.

Is there a possibility to have a radiator without a fan in watercooling? It must be able to cool down the water for a cpu, gpu, northbridge, harddrive and the psu. Maybee if its big enough? Like a truck radiator

.

This I think would be the ultimate solution if a damp the pump...

Bat · Post by **Bat** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:16 am

I feel exactly the same way!

You can have a radiator without a fan.

http://overclockers.com/tips857/

Someone here uses a 17 gallon plastic tank (just for CPU, I think).

HerosFormula uses a pair of oil coolers for PSU & video card, with no flow through them at all so far as I can tell: they seem to be fixed to the side of his case so air can flow over them but not through them.

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=8344
http://herosformula.org/watercool.htm

JoesGarage has made a fanless radiator.

Use the search function here: there are several examples.
It's also worth looking at the forums at places like overclockers.com etc.

GenghiS_KhaN · Post by **GenghiS_KhaN** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:49 am

did you take a look at the one mentioned in this post??
http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=8563

sorenbro · Post by **sorenbro** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:46 am

It's unfortunatly only one seasonic model featuring the 120mm fan that I can find here in DK, however there is also a company that sells Fortron/Source PSU's modded with a 120mm papst fan.
http://www.shg.dk/htmlfiles/infobox.asp ... 20054&kat=
http://asp.webconsult.dk/privat/ShowProds.asp?c=55

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:43 am

thanx for the tips about the Wc. I'm starting a new thread about the Wc

davidstone28 · Post by **davidstone28** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:23 am

the_bfg wrote:sorenbro : do you know any danish webshops that sell the seasonic range? they're tricky to find in Sweden and the UK...

/bfg

Apparently, Kool 'n Quiet (UK) are planning to start stocking the Seasonic Super Silence 400W from mid December onwards.

See here: http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=4644

the_bfg · Post by **the_bfg** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:50 am

hehe... thanks for the response davidstone28, that's my post about the seasonic... and the info is repeated in this thread too...

sorenbro · Post by **sorenbro** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:02 pm

I just discovered that a danish shop (the one that has a single Seasonic PSU with a 120mm fan) is also getting the Super Tornado and Super Silencer Series. They are not in stock yet, but I think they are comming this December, since you can win them in their Christmas give-away. So far I can see they will be getting the Super Tornado 350W (595kr), the Super Tornado 400W (695kr) and the Super Silencer 460W (1145kr)
http://www.shg.dk/htmlfiles/infobox.asp ... 20062&kat=
http://www.shg.dk/htmlfiles/infobox.asp ... 20063&kat=
http://www.shg.dk/htmlfiles/infobox.asp ... 20064&kat=

Btw they ship worldwide as far is I am informed.

Tobi-Wan Kenobi · Post by **Tobi-Wan Kenobi** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:08 pm

thanx for all the answers its been a great help! I've desided to get WC so I will not read this thread any more since I'm getting a watercooled psu

. but please use this thread to tip eachother off with good psus.

Mauler · Post by **Mauler** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:12 pm

FSP350-60PN(PF) modified with Papst fan:

http://www.gtek.se/index.php?mode=item& ... 935c48b3e9

Anyone tried this?

snutten · Post by **snutten** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:12 am

I bought two SS-400 from a German distributor, for EUR 2 x 119 + 19.90 freight to Stockholm.
How about that huh?

CharlieChan · Post by **CharlieChan** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:26 pm

Another PSU to consider is a Qtechnology QT-02400G. I just brought one from these guys to replace my seasonic SS300FT - which was driving me insane.

JVM · Post by **JVM** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:35 pm

CharlieChan wrote:Another PSU to consider is a Qtechnology QT-02400G. I just brought one from these guys to replace my seasonic SS300FT - which was driving me insane.

Is the fan in that PSU an 80mm fan?

How do you like it -- noisewise?

Which SILENT psu to get in Europe?

Which SILENT psu to get in Europe?

Anyone tried this one?