AX-7 good enough for barton 3000+?

root · Post by **root** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:29 pm

I just got a barton 3000+ w/ 400 fsb. I was wondering if my AX-7 with a 32cfm fan would be enough to cool it. And if that is enough.. could i even put my vantec fan 28 cfms to cool it..

TIA

*Sorry if you heard this a millian of times

Post by **MikeC** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:38 pm

Probably... just try it. If you see the temp still climbing past 70C or so when you're stressing the CPU, bail and consider a HS swap, improving the case airflow around the PCU area and/or lowering the Vcore.

aston · Post by **aston** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:39 pm

I used to use one with a Panaflo L1A on my XP1700+ @ 2GHz (1.75v). It was fine under load as long as the case was open (I had poor ventilation).

I'm sure with a faster fan, it can cool a 3000+ Barton no problem.

root · Post by **root** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:49 pm

Thanks for your replies.. I'll give it a shot.. if this doenst work what HSF would you suggest? I was thinking the Zalman 7000A AlCu but I wasnt sure if it was rated for the 3000+

*what the heck is a "millian" =X **million** doh!

geordie · Post by **geordie** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:41 am

Well I use an SK-7 (identical to the AX-7 I think) with a 80mm Panaflo L1A (around 26cfm IIRC) and it keeps my Barton cool enough. At 3200+ speed and 100% load, temps are around 64C diode, 50C socket, 25C case. Diode drops to around 40C when I'm just web browsing etc.

aston · Post by **aston** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:27 pm

Geordie, how did you read temps from both the CPU diode and the socket? My motherboard's (Abit NF7-S) BIOS and MBM only show one temp for the CPU... do you know if it's the motherboard socket temp or the CPU diode temp?

I just replaced my TbredB XP1700+ with a Barton XP-M 2500+ and the temps are surprising. At 1.75v, the TbredB runs at the same temp as the Barton at 1.6v (52C under load). I'm wondering if the Bartons just run hotter, or if there's a CPU diode on the Barton that's not on the Tbred, or if I just put on too much thermal goop....

Gxcad · Post by **Gxcad** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:40 pm

The Zalman 7000A AlCu could probably do it with the fan at 5v, just IMO not tested.

-Ken

hmsrolst · Post by **hmsrolst** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:26 am

geordie wrote:Well I use an SK-7 (identical to the AX-7 I think) with a 80mm Panaflo L1A (around 26cfm IIRC) and it keeps my Barton cool enough. At 3200+ speed and 100% load, temps are around 64C diode, 50C socket, 25C case. Diode drops to around 40C when I'm just web browsing etc.

SK-7 and AX-7 are very different designs, although both are excellent. Given their different designs, I'm sure that there are mobos on which one would fit, but not the other.

Prince of Persia · Post by **Prince of Persia** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:58 pm

I have an Athlon XP 2100+ @ 2.1GHz/400MHz FSB using an AX-7/L1A combo, and its always kept it below 60C which is good, IMHO. the Barton will run slightly hotter, but I am sure it can keep it within an acceptable range. RWV depending on fan, of course.

root · Post by **root** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:55 am

installed my AX-7 here are my results:
~47C idle
~53C load
case temp
~30C

using asus probe (think its the socket temp?), cant seem to get MBM working

I might get the zalman heatsink for the heck of it, just to see how silent i can make my computer

Thanks for the help everyone

geordie · Post by **geordie** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:38 am

aston wrote:Geordie, how did you read temps from both the CPU diode and the socket? My motherboard's (Abit NF7-S) BIOS and MBM only show one temp for the CPU... do you know if it's the motherboard socket temp or the CPU diode temp?

By default I just got the socket temp out of MBM5 and the bios on A7N8X Dlx rev2. The motherboard listing on the MBM 5 website shows that I needed to check the W83L785TS S Diode sensor to get the actual diode temp.

Unfortunately for you, there is no alternative sensor listed for your mobo. In fact, not many seem to have this available.

Easy to test whether you have the socket or diode temperature sensor. From running at idle, run at 100% load for 5 mins say, then idle again. The diode temperature will go up rapidly at full load (for me it's something like 40C to 55C almost instantly) and will drop again almost as quickly when you idle again. The socket temperature changes much more slowly, only 3 or 4C a second for me.

root wrote:using asus probe (think its the socket temp?)

ASUS probe is socket temp on my board. I can't comment specifically on any other ASUS board but I would assume that goes for the others too.