Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu or Thermalright XP-120???

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Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu or Thermalright XP-120???

Post by nervx » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:02 pm

Which of these two heatsinks would cool better? I hear mixed reviews about both heatsinks....
I would be using a 120mm SilenX 14dba fan with the thermalright and the zalman would be running on high.



Also for those of you with the thermalright that had to bend capacitors, how easy was it to do so?


Setup:
-antec 3700BQE
-stock antec fan in the back
-nexus 120mm in the front
-a64 3200+
-asus k8v se deluxe
-leadtek 6800GT
-2 hard drives

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Post by Ralf Hutter » Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:56 am

Based on my experience, the Thermalright would win, especially if you intend to run your fans at lower voltages.

Do you have any links to the mixed reviews of the XP-120 and Z-7000?

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Post by EvilNick » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:05 am

Hrm, I have a 7000AlCu on my [email protected] right now, but I have a XP-120 on the way here and should arrive by the end of this month.

I'll give you some performance readings if you should happen to wait till then. ;)

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Post by Pjotor » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:06 am

Does anyone know if the XP-120 can be hacked to fit a socket A processor? It seems to do really well -- much better than my current CNPS7000 cooler.

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Re: Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu or Thermalright XP-120???

Post by SilverBeard » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:14 am

nervx wrote:Which of these two heatsinks would cool better? I hear mixed reviews about both heatsinks....
I would be using a 120mm SilenX 14dba fan with the thermalright and the zalman would be running on high.

Setup:
-antec 3700BQE
-stock antec fan in the back
-nexus 120mm in the front
-a64 3200+
-asus k8v se deluxe
-leadtek 6800GT
-2 hard drives
If you are going to continue using the k8v, since it cannot overclock more than about 220, would not the Zalman on low speed be sufficient cooling and quietness? The Zalman is half the cost of the XP-120/SilenX and there is no problem fitting it.

I am planning to use the XP-120 with the SilenX, but I also plan to overclock as far as I can (240+ hopefully using the new DFI 754 MB) while remaining fairly quiet.

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Post by nova » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:43 pm

I don't know for sure but the thermalright should cool better. About the installation, the ASUS K8V SE Deluxe is used in thermalrights installation instruction on their homepage. So you won't have to bend any capacitors.

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Post by nervx » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:44 pm

I don't know for sure but the thermalright should cool better. About the installation, the ASUS K8V SE Deluxe is used in thermalrights installation instruction on their homepage. So you won't have to bend any capacitors.
No you do have to bend them, i found a post with someone else using the board i have and he had to bend a bunch of stuff. Also mentioned that it was quite hard to install.
If you are going to continue using the k8v, since it cannot overclock more than about 220, would not the Zalman on low speed be sufficient cooling and quietness? The Zalman is half the cost of the XP-120/SilenX and there is no problem fitting it.
I don't really plan to overclock but the thing is the 6800GT gives off a lot of heat when gaming so all temps go up a fair bit which means running the zalman on low isn't really an option.

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Post by lenny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:02 am

nervx wrote:I don't really plan to overclock but the thing is the 6800GT gives off a lot of heat when gaming so all temps go up a fair bit which means running the zalman on low isn't really an option.
Sounds like a prime candidate for the new Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer. If it's generate lots of heat, makes even more sense to vent the heat directly out the case instead of raising case temperature.

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Post by nervx » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:52 am

I was going to get a VGA Silencer but they turned out to be pieces of crap. I've heard arctic cooling is working on a new revision that doesn't suck but who knows when those will come out.

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Post by nova » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:08 am

nervx wrote:
No you do have to bend them, i found a post with someone else using the board i have and he had to bend a bunch of stuff. Also mentioned that it was quite hard to install.
Strange I don't see any capacitors that needs to be bended in the instruction. Look at K8 installation on www.thermalright.com can't give you direct link as they use flashmenu.

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Post by Ralf Hutter » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:38 am

nova wrote:
nervx wrote:
No you do have to bend them, i found a post with someone else using the board i have and he had to bend a bunch of stuff. Also mentioned that it was quite hard to install.
Strange I don't see any capacitors that needs to be bended in the instruction. Look at K8 installation on www.thermalright.com can't give you direct link as they use flashmenu.
Direct link to Thermalright K8 Mobo compatibility list.

What it says about the K8V SE Deluxe:
TR wrote: *caps mechanically obstruct pipe slightly, cap tilting necessary

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Post by lenny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:55 am

nervx wrote:I was going to get a VGA Silencer but they turned out to be pieces of crap. I've heard arctic cooling is working on a new revision that doesn't suck but who knows when those will come out.
Can you elaborate further? PM me if you think it's off topic. Thanks.

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Post by nova » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:00 pm

Ralf Hutter wrote:
TR wrote:says about the K8V SE Deluxe:

*caps mechanically obstruct pipe slightly, cap tilting necessary
I missed the compatibility list. It's interesting that they would use a motherboard in their installation instructions that the heatsink doesn't completely fit on. Oh well, I now see that the xp120 will fit on the motherboard I'm about to buy, so thanks for that Ralf :D

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Post by GlassMan » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:33 am

Just installed XP120 with vantec stealth fan sucking on my chaintech vnf3 250, w newcastle 3200(2200) a64, running at 2500 10x250, temps down 9C (this board has small degrees speedfan 79C down to 70C)) while folding.
For amd64 you install an intel base. Now any fan that fits intel should fit on this base. Removing memory allowed clipping pipe side with fingers on this board

Arctic Silencer is wxcellent so far, 10C lower gpu temps idle, 7C lower chipset temp (by sensor) resulting from increased airflow in this area. Very quiet, now I can hear my other fans which I couldn't before due to BFG oc 6899GT fan

Awsome results, I now can hear my sons computer in another room. Guess I'll have to get to work!!

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Post by markjia » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:40 am

nervx,

If you leave the fanmate on high, that would virutally defeat its purpose. There is practically no point in using it.

Instead, how about using your Asus MB's Q-Fan feature? It will dynamically control the fan speed depending on the temperature.

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Post by trxman » Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:09 pm

GlassMan wrote:Just installed XP120 with vantec stealth fan sucking on my chaintech vnf3 250, w newcastle 3200(2200) a64, running at 2500 10x250, temps down 9C (this board has small degrees speedfan 79C down to 70C)) while folding.
Does that Chaintec VNF3-250 support Cool'n'Quiet? I've found some new BIOS versions for that board that should supprot it.
http://www.chaintech.com.tw/tw/eng/Down ... &PISNo=276
Version : 4.0
Date: 2004/10/19
Note :
Feature :1.Support K8 mobile CPU
2.Support Cool'n'Quiet
K8 mobile CPU will be boot with minimum frequency and Voltage , please adjust the relative data 4.0x-1.100v ,9.0x-1.300v , 10.0x-1.400v , 11.0x-1.500v
Have you tried?
Please, share your expiriance because I'm looking for a new board to buy...

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Post by Edward Ng » Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:20 pm

DFI LANParty UT nF3 250Gb fits XP-90 and XP-120 and has perfectly functional CnQ.

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Post by trxman » Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:36 pm

It just can't be found here.
I'm limited at something like:

Abit NF8
MSI K8N Neo
Epox 8KDA3J
Chaintech VNF-250

:(

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Post by Edward Ng » Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:39 pm

Darn. :?

Where are you?

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Post by trxman » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:01 pm

SouthEast part of Europe... Slow develeping one :(

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Post by burcakb » Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:15 pm

I don't really plan to overclock but the thing is the 6800GT gives off a lot of heat when gaming so all temps go up a fair bit which means running the zalman on low isn't really an option.
This is absolutely wrong. If you look at my sig, Thor is a A64-3000+ Newcastle core running at 2100 MHz at the moment with a PASSIVE graphics cooler and I've yet to see CPU temps pass 50C even after heavy gaming. And be sure, my Radeon 9700 is one really hot chip. AND I run my Zalman at BELOW low-speed settings.

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