E6600 - best heatsink that fits on an Antec Fusion?

[idealcrash]

Greetings everyone,

I'm helping a friend build an HTPC based on the C2D E6600. After much persuasion I convinced him that the intel stock HSF would have to go. What would be a good alternative heatsink that fits inside a Fusion? I'm considering the CNPS7000B-Cu since looks like the CNPS7700-Cu is too large to fit inside this case. Will the 7000 be able to handle a non-overclocked E6600 with the fan under 7v? It looks like all the popular vertical coolers are too big to fit inside this case, but since the case hasn't arrived yet I can't take measurements etc.

I like the fact that the zalman already comes with a fanmate and has a nice quiet fan (less stuff to order/spend money on), but if there's much better alternatives out there we will consider it.

Thanks.

[SebRad]

Hi, I would think so, as long as case airflow is reasonable. My AMD Barton 2500+ overclocked to 2.2GHz is, on paper anyway, a hotter chip than the E6600 (80w+ vs 65w) and my Zalman 7000B Cu cools it fine at 5v (~1300rpm). I have two fanmates in series and can turn the fan down to ~1050rpm at which point it's still enough if the room is below 20°C.
I would expect it to work at least OK and possible pretty well, you will need optional LGA775 fitting kit though.
Seb

[ccorayer]

Greetings everyone,

I'm helping a friend build an HTPC based on the C2D E6600. After much persuasion I convinced him that the intel stock HSF would have to go. What would be a good alternative heatsink that fits inside a Fusion? I'm considering the CNPS7000B-Cu since looks like the CNPS7700-Cu is too large to fit inside this case. Will the 7000 be able to handle a non-overclocked E6600 with the fan under 7v? It looks like all the popular vertical coolers are too big to fit inside this case, but since the case hasn't arrived yet I can't take measurements etc.

A 7700 fits just fine vertically. Depending on your board layout you might have some overlap issues if your CPU socket is too far to one side. I got one in there without issue. I swapped the fan on the 7700 with a Yate-Loon one.

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Chris

[idealcrash]

Hi, I would think so, as long as case airflow is reasonable. My AMD Barton 2500+ overclocked to 2.2GHz is, on paper anyway, a hotter chip than the E6600 (80w+ vs 65w) and my Zalman 7000B Cu cools it fine at 5v (~1300rpm). I have two fanmates in series and can turn the fan down to ~1050rpm at which point it's still enough if the room is below 20°C.
I would expect it to work at least OK and possible pretty well, you will need optional LGA775 fitting kit though.
Seb

Thanks for your input and for the heads up on the LGA775 fitting kit, I hadn't noticed that, I see it now on Zalman's site. There goes another 5€ to get that thing..

[idealcrash]

7700 fits just fine vertically. Depending on your board layout you might have some overlap issues if your CPU socket is too far to one side. I got one in there without issue. I swapped the fan on the 7700 with a Yate-Loon one.

What motherboard did you use? We already have an Asus P5B-VM being shipped our way, I think the cpu socket is too close to the edge of the board and would interfere with the 120m exhaust fans on the Fusion. This is the board:

[idealcrash]

I made this in autocad with exact measures to see how much the CNPS7700-Cu sticked out of the motherboard.

I think it's safe to say it's out of the question.




So it looks like the CNPS7000B-Cu will be. It would be nice to read from people using this HSF with a C2D though.

[niels007]

Bear in mind that the 7000 isn't very very good, and it comes with a poor fan. From what I've heard, the stock Intel cooler is probably not much 'worse'..

How about a Thermalright xp / si 120? You can fit a nice fan on that and while not the best, they are better than the zalman 7000..

Just my 2c

[idealcrash]

Bear in mind that the 7000 isn't very very good, and it comes with a poor fan. From what I've heard, the stock Intel cooler is probably not much 'worse'..

How about a Thermalright xp / si 120? You can fit a nice fan on that and while not the best, they are better than the zalman 7000..

Just my 2c

I don't think a XP120 would fit either, look at the pic I made above, if it did it would be a very tight fit. I'd prefer not taking the chance of ordering it to find out it doesn't fit.

I know the 7000B isn't the quietest of the cpu cooling solutions one can get, but you have to keep in mind this is gonna be used in a living room +6' feet away from you with music/movies playing most of the time, so absolute dead silence isn't that much necessary.

Unless you mean the fan in the 7000B isn't very reliable and breaks down after some months of use?

[ccorayer]

What motherboard did you use? We already have an Asus P5B-VM being shipped our way, I think the cpu socket is too close to the edge of the board and would interfere with the 120m exhaust fans on the Fusion. This is the board:

I'm using an older P4 shuttle board. Not really the right size for the case. However, I have seen photos of people who used an Abit NF-M2 in this case and were able to fit this cooler in. My guess is the layout for the AMD CPU on that board is a bit more inward.


If you do a search in the forums for nsk2400 and 7700 you should find these articles. Somewhere there's one that mentions a thermalright adapter you can use on the abit board to solidly mount the 7700. Jab-tech or coolerguys sells them for 2.50$.

viewtopic.php?t=34271&highlight=nsk2400+7700

viewtopic.php?t=30920&start=0&postdays= ... k2400+7700

[niels007]

The Zalman fans are reliable, to my knowledge, but just not quiet for the RPM they run at. Good chance it will do the job though, although you could have a go with the stock cooler first, if its pretty big and doesn't overheat when you slow the fan down, you've saved some $

[idealcrash]

I decided to try the stock HSF first, if it's too loud or doesn't provide enough cooling, another HSF will go in. I'm thinking a well applied layer of AS5, the bios feature of the asus that slows the fan down when not under load and the speedstep technology of the C2D will make the HSF run quiet enough in a living room environment.

[spaniard]

Although not quite the answer to your question I have an antec fusion albeit with an athlon 64 dual core and I can confirm that the Thermalright SI-128 fits fine and runs fine with no cpu cooler even running H264 BBC HD and other programs to give +75%cpu utilisation constantly for several hours and recording it
I run the 2 case fans on low
speedfan reports temps in the low 50's deg c peaking at 55deg c
You can also fit any 120mm fan as the lid closes easily with the fan.
Fiddly to fit though with the board in. I recommend fitting prior to board fitting
In the uk they are rare though. I got mine from www.awd-it.com but could find nobody else with stock

[ultrachrome]

I decided to try the stock HSF first

Assuming you are using this with an A/V setup, you might be surprised how much noise you can live with.

I just installed a 7900GS with stock cooler in my NSK2400 where the fan intake is mostly blocked by the adjacent card. I feared for the worse but I can't hear it and the card is staying cool.

With speakers ablaze and the unit a meter or more away from your seating position, there's a lot to mask fan noise.

[ArtisanPC]

I haven't personally tried it with a 6600, but since it's going to be right next to the case fans (hint: wire the closest one to the CPU fan header) the Thermaltake CL-P0172 is passive and rated up to 115w - the E6600 is 65w.

[Mike81]

I think the Thermalright Si-128 would be a good choise.
Thermalright Si-128 Heatsink.
I've heard of people running AM2 X2 CPU's passively in the Antec Fusion case using this cooler. Also a standard size 120mm fan will fit if required, but its a tight fit, perhaps a slimline fan would be a good option?

Here's a picture of an Si-128 Fitted onto an Asus M2NPV-VM board inside a Fusion case.



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[sundaze]

I also have the same problem with my Antec Fusion case & a Asus P5B-VM motherboard. The stock solution with Antec fans and intel cpu cooling is just too noisy.
I was thinking of replacing the antec fans with Noctua 12cm fans, but had a hard time finding a solution for the cramped space on the P5B-VM MB.

Is it possible to mount a small fan underneath the thermalright si-128 heatsink? There's only so few space left to mount it above it I suppose. Plus, if you mount it on top, would you be able to have enough airflow?

What makes a lot more sense is having a vertical heatsink installed, since hte venting holes are very close to the cpu on the right side, but then most vertical heatsinks + fans are just too big (i think the max height inside the case is 12 cm).
Then i found that the Scythe Mine might actually fit in see http://www.crazypc.com/products/50624.html.

Apparently the fan on the scythe could be replaced with a different one, so perhaps there is some noise reduction in that departement.

So just a few loose ideas.... I'd be interested in hearing some more informed opinions about these coolers & their installation

[karalrs]

i have too the antec fusion case
and the pp5b-vm motherboard.

i have ordered the thermaltake golden orb 2 and it fits well!!

[peerke]

i have too the antec fusion case
and the pp5b-vm motherboard.

i have ordered the thermaltake golden orb 2 and it fits well!!

But how are the noise and temps?

BTW: Welcome to SPCR!!!

[karalrs]

i have too the antec fusion case
and the pp5b-vm motherboard.

i have ordered the thermaltake golden orb 2 and it fits well!!

But how are the noise and temps?

BTW: Welcome to SPCR!!!

I havent tried it yet but the reviews are talking about 17-18db noise at 7v fan setting.


it has same performance as the 7700cu
all the reviews i found compare the two of them because of the same pattern and they find them to perform the same.

in a few days i will have you covered


its also cheap around 20euro!

Nice to find you here!!
Thodoris