E6300, Scythe Ninja Rev B, GigaByte GA-965P-DS3 TOO HOT!!!

curls · Post by **curls** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:30 am

Hi all,

Hoping someone here can help me with my issue. Just built a new system (see specs below). Been a longtime AMD user and just switched over to the "dark side".

The huge overclock potential won me over.

My issue is related to the temps I'm seeing whenever I overclock. At idle, I'm seeing temps in the 42-45 range. I'm using Intel's TAT to monitor temps. From researching around, the consensus is that this is the most 1 accurate tool for core temps. When I full throttle the cores using TAT, the temps climb into the upper 60's, usually topping off at 70. I've also been monitoring the temps on my GPU and they seem on the high side as well. The idle temp is usually 70c and goes into the mid 80's when playing a game.

Doesnt seems like I'm pushing the CPU too hard. My friend has a similar machine and he only hits high 50's at full load. He's at 3ghz with those temps. It's very puzzling as to why his temps are so low. There are three main differences with our configs - videocard (x1950xt 256), psu (silverstone Element ST50EF) and case (antec solo).

Anyone have any clues to why I'm having these high temps? I've already lapped my stuff and redid the mounting. Could my PSU be the problem and causing my components to run hot?

E6300 @ 2.8ghz
vcore - 1.35
Mem + 0.2v

System Specs:
Intel E6300 (lapped with 600 and 800 sandpaper)
Scythe Ninja Rev B with 120mm fan (lapped with 600 and 800 sandpaper)
Mounting system modded with springs and machines screws
Arctic Silver 5
GigaByte GA-965P-DS3 Rev 2 F10 BIOS
OCZ OCZ2P800R22GK 2GB
evga 8800gts 320mb "superclocked"
Creative Audigy 2
1 74GB Raptor
3 300GB Maxtor 7200rpm
1 400GB Seagate Barracuda
Liteon SATA DVD Burner
OCZ Modstream 520W PSU
Antec P160 with Tricool 120mm

angelkiller · Post by **angelkiller** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:06 am

I think the Ninja is not optimally mounted to your mobo. It looks like your lapping made the surfaces less/not flat (unlikely) or your mounting system does not provide enough CPU/Heatsink contact. How much pressure (from the ninja) is being applied to the CPU? In my experiences, there is a good amount of pressure. (Not too much though!)

Not exactly sure about your problem, but that's what I would check first.

curls · Post by **curls** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:34 am

used this mod:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... ght=scythe

I dont think i can make it any tighter without damaging something.

angelkiller · Post by **angelkiller** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:11 pm

Ooooo.

Nice mod. So you can confirm this works with the ninja? (A pic would be great for future references)

Anyways it's plenty tight, so thats not the problem. I can't think of anything else that could be the problem.

curls · Post by **curls** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:25 pm

I do have pics... i'll see if i can get around to posting them

yosh2000 · Post by **yosh2000** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:43 pm

curls wrote:used this mod:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... ght=scythe

I dont think i can make it any tighter without damaging something.

am will be doing this mod over spring break.

anyone know of a good place to get a backplate for a 775, C2D?? i have a simple intel G965RY board.

curls · Post by **curls** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:35 am

a black plate is not needed for 775 sockets... if you follow the link provided, it is very secure.

butters · Post by **butters** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:17 am

I read a post on that infinity mod thread where someone was experiencing high temps with the ninja mounted this way in a P180. Kicking the speed on both exhaust fans from low to medium was the solution. It seems that with the ninja, having good exhaust from the CPU area is possibly more important than getting tons of airflow through the fins.

curls · Post by **curls** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:59 pm

thanks for the suggestions... i have somewhat a working solution now...

found my northbridge was getting insanely hot (too hot to touch). mounted a 50mm fan on top using a zalman throttle control for noise and the machine is rock solid @ 2.8ghz. going to continue testing.

as of today, my temps are 39-44 range at idle and mid 50's using orthos and prime. if i use intel tat, the temp jumps to low 60's.

ronrem · Post by **ronrem** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:57 am

sounds like you found a lot of the problem-though I'd make a bracket to aim an 80 or 120 mm fan at the chipset. Sometimes folks put too much Artic Silver on,it should just fill micro-grooves.

You can get a car that gets 40mpg and is smooth + quiet for commuting,cruising. You can get a car that does 180 mph at the dragstrip....but you can get both.

Maxing the overclock on everything is fine if that's your need,but in that case an Infinity with a bit faster fasn would work better. On the other hand-if you tire of the fans you can always back off the OC and make that rig pretty quiet. I guess the Core 2's do heat up a lot OC'd.

Bluefront · Post by **Bluefront** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:16 am

Regarding that link to the mounting mod.....not impressed. There are a number of things he did wrong...IMHO.

Brass screws......use steel instead, much stronger.

Length....use the correct length. Stacking washers is not the way to make a stable mount.

Lock-nuts....use them whenever possible. You can get a small wrench to turn the things.

Springs are un-necessary. The ends can bind up when tightening the nuts, making even pressure all the way around, much more difficult.

TIM and cleaning.....Humm. Use AS5 or similar....the stuff he used is toxic, bad, expensive, not necessary. A solvent such as Acrosol cleans much better...and Q-Tips can leave small bits on the surface. Use a soft cotton rag and air to finish it off.

Lapping.....if really needed 600 and 800 grit is too rough. Use 1000 or 1500 for a final finish. 600 grit just leaves scratches you will have to remove. Be sure and wet the surface of the sandpaper frequently as you lap. WD40 works well for this.

I could go on......

vincentfox · Post by **vincentfox** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:44 am

Frequent topic.

Read this thread, page 2, 4th post from top, author cmthomson:

viewtopic.php?t=38072&start=30