Scythe Mini Ninja spotted

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Pierce
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Post by Pierce » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:49 am

I just ordered one at http://friese-it.de/index.php
Lets see if it can cool my E4400 passively with one or two 120mm Yates.
Case is a NSK2400.
I couldn't resist buying it, I hope it arrives till Tuesday next week.

Excuse my bad English but I'm in a hurry (got to work:()

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Post by Mikey » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:48 pm

I look forward to hearing how you go Pierce, give us a full rundown when you get it. :)

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Post by dhanson865 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:03 pm

Pierce wrote:I just ordered one at http://friese-it.de/index.php
Lets see if it can cool my E4400 passively with one or two 120mm Yates.
Case is a NSK2400.
I couldn't resist buying it, I hope it arrives till Tuesday next week.

Excuse my bad English but I'm in a hurry (got to work:()
Oh, come on now, you are in Germany and you didn't buy AMD? :twisted:

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Post by Firetech » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:51 pm

Mikey wrote:I look forward to hearing how you go Pierce, give us a full rundown when you get it. :)
and photo's :D

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Post by Pierce » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:11 am

Today my Mini Ninja finally arrived.

It looks great and the box is just as flashy as any other Scythe box.
Every required accessory is included but the 775 mounting is a bit hard to mount. Make sure you don't have your mainboard in your case.
A 80mm Fan is included aswell as mounting brackets for 80mm and
92mm fans.

The temps seem to be about 10 degrees celsius better than with the Intel stock heatsink. The cores are enormously cooler. (25 degrees :shock: )

The Minja as I call it fits absolutely fine in my NSK 2400.
There is about 1-2cm room between the Minja and the 120mm exhausts.
Clearance between Minja and the case lid is about 1cm (estimated).

I got two 120mm Yates @7V as exhausts and the temps after 1h of Prime95 and Rthdribl are as following:

Minja:

CPU: 32
Sytem:33
GPU: 72
Core1: 35
Core2: 39


Stock:

CPU: 40
System: 42
GPU: 72
Core1: 60
Core2: 60

The fan on the stock heatsinks was running at 0-800rpm in automatic mode.
The Minja is running passively like it has to. :wink:

Pics will be uploaded this evening since I got no mouse right now
because i destroyed the receiver earlier. :roll:

Any spelling and grammatical mistakes were intended. :wink:

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Post by Lensman » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:54 am

Good info Pierce, I've been waiting for the Mini Ninja for a while now.
The Minja is running passively like it has to.
What do you mean? Are you running passively because you want to or because there's no room to mount an 80mm or 92mm fan to push air through the Minja?

I have the Gigabyte GA-G33-DS2R as well, btw!

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Post by Pierce » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:58 am

Image
The "nice" box.
Image
the first impression
Image

Image
the Minja from one side
Image
The Minja in my NSK2400
Image
another pic of the Minja in the NSK2400


Just ask for more pics if you want to see more.


edit:
The Minja is running passively like it has to.
What do you mean? Are you running passively because you want to or because there's no room to mount an 80mm or 92mm fan to push air through the Minja?
I think i could mount the 80mm fan but there is just no need for one.
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Post by Bikeman » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:51 am

One little question, Pierce:

What graphics card are you using? From what I've heard, the passively cooled MSI 8600 GT doesn't fit ... It's heatpipes are slightly too high ...

Actually I'm looking for a 8600 GTS variant that's passively cooled. Any information?

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Post by klankymen » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:00 am

it's a GigaByte 8600GTS, same as mine. (as could be read from his sig :) )

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Post by dhanson865 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:12 pm

What we need is a Ninja vs Ninja Mini review to know how to compare it vs the rest of the field.

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Post by Agent_N » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:57 pm

Ninja Mini available at http://www.coolerguys.com/840556081302.html for $43.95.

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Post by Felger Carbon » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:12 am

sdotmiles wrote:also available here:
http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?act ... FANSCMNJ1K
36.75
That's eBay; shipping will cost you a fortune.

PCToys also has it. Looks like a container ship arrived in Seattle with some "Minjas". :D

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Post by Chang » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:06 am

Felger Carbon wrote:
sdotmiles wrote:also available here:
http://www.aerocooler.com/shop.cart?act ... FANSCMNJ1K
36.75
That's eBay; shipping will cost you a fortune.
I'm confused. First off, how do you figure eBay in there? Second. shipping to NYC was priced at $11.70 for UPS Ground. Perhaps higher than some but totally inline with what many vendors charge, and far from a fortune. Total price is within a couple of bucks with the rest of them.

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Minja at jab-tech

Post by daaron415 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:39 pm

Over at jab-tech, the "minja" can be found for $35.95. After S&H to a 94127 area code, the total was $43.71. Pretty good deal there, don't you think? Seems all the web dealers are having a "mini" price war :P

The pun was a little bad, but you get the point.

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Post by cyberspyder » Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:06 pm

Performance-PCs has 'em

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Post by Max Slowik » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:11 am

Can we not coin it the Minja? You guys know what a minge is, right?

I mean, if that's the way it goes I'm just going to start calling it the Scythe Vulva. Or maybe just the Cunny.

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Post by Felger Carbon » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:10 am

It appears from photos at sellers' sites that the Minja K8 mounting has holes at the four corners, and can therefore be mounted at any 90 degree angle. Can any new owner confirm this?

The Ninja RevB did not put the four holes at the corners, and since Scythe was too cheap to drill an extra four holes, the RevB K8 cannot be mounted at any 90 degree angle. And before anybody tells me it doesn't matter, would they please look at the heavy extruded HS atop the baseplate and explain how the air can go thru that extrusion at any 90 degree angle?

The remaining question is, is the Minja mounting firm and tight like the original Ninja or loose and sloppy (with poor thermal contact) like the RevB?

Pierce
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Post by Pierce » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:57 am

With the included 775 pushpin mounting it's very firm, my mb bends like hell.

The K8 mouting has holes at every corner.

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Post by Mikey » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:17 pm

Looks good pierce, your pictures were just what i was after! Handy that you've got the same mb and case as me :)

Looks like it'll fit in nicely with the rest of my setup.. now to wait until they're available down under :)

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Post by Matija » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:18 pm

Unbelievable but true - I found the Mini Ninja in this craphole of a country for only $57 (the same price as its rev.B brother). Needless to say, I am very tempted to buy it and finally replace my stock Intel heatsink (running an E4300 at 2.4 GHz). I'd run it passively, of course, as Pierce's report hints to that setup working very well.

Yay or nay?

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Post by Zap » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:18 pm

For continental USA customers, Newegg has it for $30 with $6 shipping.

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Post by Jasper » Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:22 am

How many fins does the mini have, and at what finspacing? I have modded two fullsize Ninjas to fit in NSK2400s, and IIRC from that experience, I reduced them from 23 fins to 15, ie losing just over 1/3d of the fins (and after that you still need to bend the heatpipe stalks out of the way, of course).

I won't be buying the mini to replace the modded versions, because both procs keep *damn* cool anyway, but I might buy it next time I need a smaller heatsink -- the modding process is a pain in the arse. Not hard, just tedious.

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Post by miahallen » Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:45 am

Jasper wrote:How many fins does the mini have, and at what finspacing? I have modded two fullsize Ninjas to fit in NSK2400s, and IIRC from that experience, I reduced them from 23 fins to 15, ie losing just over 1/3d of the fins (and after that you still need to bend the heatpipe stalks out of the way, of course).
17....mentioned on the first page.

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Post by Jasper » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:45 am

miahallen wrote:
Jasper wrote:How many fins does the mini have, and at what finspacing? I have modded two fullsize Ninjas to fit in NSK2400s, and IIRC from that experience, I reduced them from 23 fins to 15, ie losing just over 1/3d of the fins (and after that you still need to bend the heatpipe stalks out of the way, of course).
17....mentioned on the first page.
Right, I missed that. It would be nice if someone were to do a review of mini Ninja versus regular Ninja versus regular Ninja modded to 15 fins, but I'm not holding my breath (especially as I seem to be the only one on the SPCR forums that has done the latter mod).

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Post by dhanson865 » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:14 pm

Jasper wrote:It would be nice if someone were to do a review of mini Ninja versus regular Ninja versus regular Ninja modded to 15 fins, but I'm not holding my breath (especially as I seem to be the only one on the SPCR forums that has done the latter mod).
I'd be happy to see the Mini Ninja vs regular Ninja A vs Regular Ninja B on socket AM2 and 775 as the mounting mechanism is just as important as any other part of the design.

Ideally we'd see two platforms (one Intel plus one AMD) with tests at fanless, 5v, 7v, and 12v on the stock scythe 120mm fan, the 100mm scythe, and the 80mm scythe.

Yep I want tons of data, go figure...

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:31 am

Hello,

I have a question: does the mounting bracket on the Mini Ninja differ from the bracket on the Rev B Ninja?

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Post by Felger Carbon » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:49 am

NeilBlanchard wrote:I have a question: does the mounting bracket on the Mini Ninja differ from the bracket on the Rev B Ninja?
It does for the K8. On the Minja, there are four holes on the corners of the bracket. On the RevB, there are four holes, but not on the corners, two on opposite 2 sides, none on the other opposite 2 sides. So the RevB cannot be mounted at any 90 degree angle, and the Minja can.

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Post by beefy6969 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:29 am

For you Mini Ninja owners with Fusion/NSK2400, would it be a good idea to mount the included fan facing the video card and blowing directly behind it.

I am planning to do this to cool my 8800GTS down from 85C on load. The Mini Ninja could DEFINITELY run a Core2Duo passively with both tricool fans blowing at it. Even with a mild OC, i hope. :oops:

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