My Scythe Orochi short story (install + mini-review)
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My Scythe Orochi short story (install + mini-review)
Hi.
Theres a thread somewhere asking if the new Scythe Orochi would fit in the P180. I said I had one coming and it came today.
My motherboard is a P35-DS3
Firstly lets look at my setup now so we can compare later.
Thermaltake Ultra 120 Extreme (TRUE)
Noctua NB cooler
etc...
On closer inspection we see that I use the blowhole fan.
I'm trying my best to block the rear hole.
My temps with the TRUE Idle and LOAD
OK! Now that we have that out of the way. Time for the Orochi.
Lets have a look at how big it is inside this case.
The orochi cant fit this way on my board. But if someone had the time to cut some bits out or has a motherboard with CPU slot that sits closer to the front a little then it'll fit. *(It'll be tricky to put the motherboard back in maybe.
This image shows the clearance with the caps and things around the CPU. And DAMN its tight !!
The lid will fit, but theres no way the fans going on top of it in a P180
Looks like i'll be putting my Stock NB cooler back on because this is just too close for comfort! thats less than 1mm of clearance!!
Damn!! scratched the rear of the mobo, damn NB clips.
OK! its all together! BUT!! i dont like how the rear fan is not getting any heat away from between the fins!
Theres a thread somewhere asking if the new Scythe Orochi would fit in the P180. I said I had one coming and it came today.
My motherboard is a P35-DS3
Firstly lets look at my setup now so we can compare later.
Thermaltake Ultra 120 Extreme (TRUE)
Noctua NB cooler
etc...
On closer inspection we see that I use the blowhole fan.
I'm trying my best to block the rear hole.
My temps with the TRUE Idle and LOAD
OK! Now that we have that out of the way. Time for the Orochi.
Lets have a look at how big it is inside this case.
The orochi cant fit this way on my board. But if someone had the time to cut some bits out or has a motherboard with CPU slot that sits closer to the front a little then it'll fit. *(It'll be tricky to put the motherboard back in maybe.
This image shows the clearance with the caps and things around the CPU. And DAMN its tight !!
The lid will fit, but theres no way the fans going on top of it in a P180
Looks like i'll be putting my Stock NB cooler back on because this is just too close for comfort! thats less than 1mm of clearance!!
Damn!! scratched the rear of the mobo, damn NB clips.
OK! its all together! BUT!! i dont like how the rear fan is not getting any heat away from between the fins!
Last edited by bumthology on Mon May 26, 2008 3:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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OK! so for some reason i moved the front fan to the middle (So its quieter i hope) and I moved the blowhole fan to the REAR (because i think the blowhole makes more noise). However it wasn't such a good idea and i went back to the blowhole of course.
Also note i got rid of the AC Accelero fan! hoping the orange one in the middle will take care of it
Heres the IDLE temps from the above setup. A bit hotter. Load temps were even hotter as the fan placement was crap!
OK .. so i decided to rest the 140mm fan (included with the orochi) on top of it blowing down. The air circulations all over the place.. but improvement. (i only tested load)
So next, i blocked the rear fan hole. I put the blowhole fan back on blowing up the heat, as heat naturally tends to rise anyway.
All in all, i got rid of 2 fans
The way i mounted the orochi was the only way it'd fit in my case. I wanted to mount it so that the fins were horizontal, but my video card was in the way.
Some notes & tips
1. For S775 users, the motherboard backplate is used to tighten the orochi. If you tighten the backplate first, u could never clip clips of the orochi on.
2. Its heavy, my motherboard sustained a lot of abuse (bending, scratches, crashing against my case) during the install, because i did it while it was still plugged into the power leds etc. But cmon 1kg aint going to do anything to your motherboard. I reckon these mobos can take 2kg
Anyways thats the end of my story. The orochi looks like it belongs in the P180. Doesnt look so big once u get used to it. I want bigger!
Also note i got rid of the AC Accelero fan! hoping the orange one in the middle will take care of it
Heres the IDLE temps from the above setup. A bit hotter. Load temps were even hotter as the fan placement was crap!
OK .. so i decided to rest the 140mm fan (included with the orochi) on top of it blowing down. The air circulations all over the place.. but improvement. (i only tested load)
So next, i blocked the rear fan hole. I put the blowhole fan back on blowing up the heat, as heat naturally tends to rise anyway.
All in all, i got rid of 2 fans
The way i mounted the orochi was the only way it'd fit in my case. I wanted to mount it so that the fins were horizontal, but my video card was in the way.
Some notes & tips
1. For S775 users, the motherboard backplate is used to tighten the orochi. If you tighten the backplate first, u could never clip clips of the orochi on.
2. Its heavy, my motherboard sustained a lot of abuse (bending, scratches, crashing against my case) during the install, because i did it while it was still plugged into the power leds etc. But cmon 1kg aint going to do anything to your motherboard. I reckon these mobos can take 2kg
Anyways thats the end of my story. The orochi looks like it belongs in the P180. Doesnt look so big once u get used to it. I want bigger!
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bumthology..... well thanks for the info, but I couldn't get a single picture to load, since I'm on a dial-up connection. If I wanted to wait for a long time, maybe one would load.
I think the General Gallery is the forum for large pictures, along with a warning for dial-up users. I try to keep my pictures about 50k, so I can actually see them, along with everyone else forced to use dial-up.
Well after a long delay the first picture loaded....nice and only 100k. Maybe the server there is extremely slow today. My connection is working fine this morning....
Later....a few more pictures loaded. I think this cooler would install in my current Lian Li project. With some changes to the airflow, it might do better than my current Zipang. Hard to say. Sure is big though..... But I'm not going to try one....from the looks of it, everything else on the MB would run hotter.
I think the General Gallery is the forum for large pictures, along with a warning for dial-up users. I try to keep my pictures about 50k, so I can actually see them, along with everyone else forced to use dial-up.
Well after a long delay the first picture loaded....nice and only 100k. Maybe the server there is extremely slow today. My connection is working fine this morning....
Later....a few more pictures loaded. I think this cooler would install in my current Lian Li project. With some changes to the airflow, it might do better than my current Zipang. Hard to say. Sure is big though..... But I'm not going to try one....from the looks of it, everything else on the MB would run hotter.
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Jeez, that thing is HUGE!!! It looks like they took a ninja, turned it sideways and made it 50% bigger!
I think I'll stick with my Ninja for now, I can't imagine it being much fun trying to install that thing!
I've just bought a Thermalright 775 bolt thru kit to secure my Ninja to my mobo as I dont trust those push-pin things, that thing looks like it would need some scaffolding to keep it supported
I think I'll stick with my Ninja for now, I can't imagine it being much fun trying to install that thing!
I've just bought a Thermalright 775 bolt thru kit to secure my Ninja to my mobo as I dont trust those push-pin things, that thing looks like it would need some scaffolding to keep it supported
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Ok, the caps arent touching the base of the plate.
Also those square blocks (VRMS?) dont seem to have any conductive surface on top. And i even think that Gigabyte uses heatsinks on them. As i said there is a bit of clearance, a bit of clearance is better than none at all, even though its so thin.
My computers been on almost 24/7 since the install and everything is fine. As you might be able to tell i'm very rough with the machine. I dont use braces, i use excessive force to do things (impatience i guess). I even move/do things in it while the computer is still on. (i know..)
The scratch yes.. that was pure negligence, try taking off the northbridge clips while the orochi is on the motherboard, and the cables (SATA, front panel) are still attached to the motherboard which is still attached to the case.
I guess after building hundreds of computers, you tend to get sick of doing things the slow way sometimes. But I can safely say that that scratch on the motherboard is the worst thing i've ever done.
Also those square blocks (VRMS?) dont seem to have any conductive surface on top. And i even think that Gigabyte uses heatsinks on them. As i said there is a bit of clearance, a bit of clearance is better than none at all, even though its so thin.
My computers been on almost 24/7 since the install and everything is fine. As you might be able to tell i'm very rough with the machine. I dont use braces, i use excessive force to do things (impatience i guess). I even move/do things in it while the computer is still on. (i know..)
The scratch yes.. that was pure negligence, try taking off the northbridge clips while the orochi is on the motherboard, and the cables (SATA, front panel) are still attached to the motherboard which is still attached to the case.
I guess after building hundreds of computers, you tend to get sick of doing things the slow way sometimes. But I can safely say that that scratch on the motherboard is the worst thing i've ever done.
A scratch on the motherboard is nothing. I once took a soldering iron to the pc in my sig and attacked an area on the board marked "psu fan" but had no header on it. My intention was to solder a header on. The end result was a big black hole in the board and no new fan header.
In trying to find out if there was any current doing through the psu fan marked area, I shorted the signal line of the aux_fan header.
Thankfully, the signature PC is now sold and is running quietly in the Gambia.
In trying to find out if there was any current doing through the psu fan marked area, I shorted the signal line of the aux_fan header.
Thankfully, the signature PC is now sold and is running quietly in the Gambia.
Re: My Scythe Orochi short story (install + mini-review)
Highly interesting. I need some more info to understand that picture:
Also, I see some copper bits (maybe heatpipe ends) coming out of the back of the case - is there a big hole in your case? And isn't there a rear blowing fan which would be attached approximately in that area of the case rear wall?
You say it can't fit, but the picture shows it fitted in its place - how come?bumthology wrote: The orochi cant fit this way on my board. But if someone had the time to cut some bits out or has a motherboard with CPU slot that sits closer to the front a little then it'll fit. *(It'll be tricky to put the motherboard back in maybe.
Also, I see some copper bits (maybe heatpipe ends) coming out of the back of the case - is there a big hole in your case? And isn't there a rear blowing fan which would be attached approximately in that area of the case rear wall?
Re: My Scythe Orochi short story (install + mini-review)
The measures I have are 194mm for the height of Orochi and 212mm for the width for P180. That gives a clearance of 18mm for the case walls, motherboard, and processor, which is obviously not enough.bumthology wrote:Hi.
Theres a thread somewhere asking if the new Scythe Orochi would fit in the P180.
I have tried to fit Megahalems into my current case, which had 31mm clearance but it wasn't enough. It looks like a clearance of 4cm would be the minimum required, perhaps more if the motherboard tray is elevated and you want case damping etc.
Re: My Scythe Orochi short story (install + mini-review)
Where did that come from? Here Scythe lists 155mm for the height: http://www.scythe-eu.com/forum/orochi/4 ... sions.htmlreddyuday wrote:The measures I have are 194mm for the height of Orochibumthology wrote:Hi.
Theres a thread somewhere asking if the new Scythe Orochi would fit in the P180.
Maybe you were thinking length (which is 190mm) but that is not overly problematic in a normal sized case.