Xigmatek HDT-S1283

canthearyou · Post by **canthearyou** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:03 am

Will the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 be enough to cool a E8400 and fit in a Solo case on a P5Q?

Post by **NeilBlanchard** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:51 am

Hi,

Without a doubt, it could cool it. If you use the Xigmatek bolt-through kit (or the Thermalright kit), you could probably do it without the fan on the heatsink.

I've used it on a P5K in a Solo and it does fit, though snugly.

canthearyou · Post by **canthearyou** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:02 am

Sounds good.

I saw the bolt-through accessory, but is it necessary? I wasn't sure what advantage it is.

Post by **NeilBlanchard** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:00 pm

Hi,

It greatly improves the contact between the base of the HS and the CPU. It matters a great deal.

It is also much easier to install.

JaYp146 · Post by **JaYp146** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:13 am

NeilBlanchard wrote:Hi,

It greatly improves the contact between the base of the HS and the CPU. It matters a great deal.

It is also much easier to install.

Regarding the ease, it requires quite a bit of pressure to screw the bolts in.

I've actually found the clip method to be easier. Didn't need a screwdriver. Pressure and temperature wise, though, the bolt-thru kit is superior.

Wibla · Post by **Wibla** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:08 pm

Im using a 1283 with the stock clips, must say I'm happy with the thermal performance, although I havent tested the Q6600 @ 3GHz in-case yet.

davidh44 · Post by **davidh44** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:16 am

JaYp146 wrote:
NeilBlanchard wrote:Hi,

It greatly improves the contact between the base of the HS and the CPU. It matters a great deal.

It is also much easier to install.
Regarding the ease, it requires quite a bit of pressure to screw the bolts in.

I've actually found the clip method to be easier. Didn't need a screwdriver. Pressure and temperature wise, though, the bolt-thru kit is superior.

Are you talking about the Xigmatek bolt-thru kit? Because I found the Xigmatek bolt-thru kit easier to install and requiring much less force on my part than the clips.

Post by **NeilBlanchard** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:54 am

Hi David,

I used the Thermalright bolt-through kit, but I'm pretty sure that the Xigamtek would be very similar. The screws are long enough to get started w/o too much pressure -- and then they pull it down tight until they bottom out. It was by far the easiest heatsink mounting I have ever done.

mexell · Post by **mexell** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:14 am

I have no problems whatsoever with the 1283 cooling my Q9300 using the push-pins. Temps are absolutely ok in the 40s, so as long as you don't intend to overclock, I wouldn't bother with the bolt-through kit.

Wibla · Post by **Wibla** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:24 am

I'm getting about 53-50C on a Q6600 @ 3.13GHz running rosetta@home with the 1283 cooler, cpu vcore being 1.29V, stock xigmatek fan at 1000rpm, thats satisfactory for me. When I'm mounting it in my workstation I'll run a Nexus 120mm fan instead tho...

Tzupy · Post by **Tzupy** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:43 am

Would the Xigmatek bolt-through kit be usable on other Skt775 coolers (not Xigmatek)?
The Thermalright kit was briefly available, but I was lazy and now it's out of stock everywhere, again.
Here is where I could buy it: http://www.emag.ro/coolere_procesor/kit ... wACK-I7751

Monkeh16 · Post by **Monkeh16** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:14 am

Tzupy wrote:Would the Xigmatek bolt-through kit be usable on other Skt775 coolers (not Xigmatek)?

No. The bolts come attached to mounting arms, and I didn't see an easy way to get them off.

Tzupy · Post by **Tzupy** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:49 am

I see. Well, tough luck...
Thank you for sparing me the dissapointment.

JaYp146 · Post by **JaYp146** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:56 am

davidh44 wrote:
JaYp146 wrote:
NeilBlanchard wrote:Hi,

It greatly improves the contact between the base of the HS and the CPU. It matters a great deal.

It is also much easier to install.
Regarding the ease, it requires quite a bit of pressure to screw the bolts in.

I've actually found the clip method to be easier. Didn't need a screwdriver. Pressure and temperature wise, though, the bolt-thru kit is superior.
Are you talking about the Xigmatek bolt-thru kit? Because I found the Xigmatek bolt-thru kit easier to install and requiring much less force on my part than the clips.

Nope, used the Thermalright bolt-thru kit. Got it at Sidewinder Computers.

m0002a · Post by **m0002a** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:54 pm

The bolt-thru kits are recommended instead of push-pins for Intel CPU's. The supplied clips work fine for AMD CPU's.

I just built a system with the 45 watt AMD 64 4050e dual core 2.1 GHz and the Xigmatek HDT-S1283. I did not install the fan on the CPU heatsink. The CPU temps as measured by the Asus MB are an astounding 25 C at idle (ambient room temp 23 C). The motherboard temps are 33 C at idle (the chipset heatsinks are quite small and includes built-in video).

I do have this running in a Antec Mini P180 with the 200 mm Antec Tri-cool 3-speed fan on the top of the case running at low speed. The exhaust coming from the top case fan is not even slightly warm. The case also has an Antec Tri-cool 120 mm fan in the back of case, but I am thinking of shutting it off (it is on low speed and makes very little noise).

With an AMD CPU, the fins of the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 are correctly positioned for a fan on the top of the case. That partly explains the ability to run the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 without a fan directly attached, but nevertheless, it is one amazing CPU heatsink, especially for the price (I even got a $10 mail-in rebate).

BTW, I used Artic Silver Ceramique paste for the CPU. I deviated just a bit from the normal instructions for applying the thermal paste, due to the groves in the heatsink in-between the heatpipes. Normally a bit of thermal paste placed in the middle of the CPU would spread out evenly, but I was concerned about it reaching the outer heatpipes (which are in direct contact with the CPU on this product), so I put a little bit of paste (very little) on all the heatpipes where they touch the CPU.

m0002a · Post by **m0002a** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:03 pm

Wibla wrote:I'm getting about 53-50C on a Q6600 @ 3.13GHz running rosetta@home with the 1283 cooler, cpu vcore being 1.29V, stock xigmatek fan at 1000rpm, thats satisfactory for me. When I'm mounting it in my workstation I'll run a Nexus 120mm fan instead tho...

I don't mean to be rude, but I wonder what the odds are of rosetta@home leading to any actual cures for disease, versus the odds of it contributing to global warming and higher engergy costs (which could be used for food to those who need it, etc).

I really don't know the answer myself, but I am just wondering. Another option is to only run it in the winter months.

Emyr · Post by **Emyr** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:00 am

imho Folding@Home is more likely to produce medically useful knowledge than rosetta...

At least you weren't planning on running SETI!

treker · Post by **treker** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:08 pm

I have been a Ninja fan ever since I got my first Version A three or four years ago. After reading here about the XigmaTek 2183, I ordered one with the $10 rebate and the optional bolthru kit for 775 socket. I was hesitant to disassemble my perfectly working Q6600 on Gigabyte P35-DS4 in Solo case. I ran a few burnin tests first getting about 32C idle and 42C at 100% workload on all four cores at stock speed. I used several coretemp programs that always seem to be consistent. Then I removed the Ninja and installed the XigmaTek 2183 with new AS5. The bolthru kit firmly attaches the heatsink to cpu socket...not a bit of movement allowed. The Ninja always "gave" a bit even with the Version A bolthru system. Reinstalled motherboard and ran the tests. 26-27C idle and 36C at 100% workoad. The PWM fan attaches very easily with rubber isolation mounts which is totally different than the somewhat difficult Ninja which uses wire clips.

So far, I am impressed. When the AS5 settles in, I expect another degree or two cooler temps.

UPDATE: After a few days of testing with the XigmaTek fan, I replaced it with Scythe from Ninja. Noise level went down a good bit and temps dropped 2C. I am now surfing at 27-28C with just the tiniest bit of fan noise with YL120 rear and Nexus80 front fan.

Cistron · Post by **Cistron** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:50 pm

Emyr wrote:imho Folding@Home is more likely to produce medically useful knowledge than rosetta...

And in my humbly biochemist oppinion, I think both are kind of PR gags. If we consider a 100 amino acid protein (which is more protein fart than a real protein), with two bonding angles to determine only the backbone of the protein, we have 198 angles to consider. Each angle could be 360Â°, but for simplicity's sake these are subdivided into 5Â° segments. Thus we have 72 steps per angle and a mere 72^198 different conformations the tiny, almost miniscule 100 amino acid peptide can adopt. Well, the backbone, no-one's talking about side chains yet.

However, and unfortunately for your bioinformatitians and their in silico protein folding approaches, proteins can easily have 1000 amino acids. One might see, that the conformational space is ginormous and I don't think that folding@home computers are changing anything about this problem. Yes, yes, there's also a motif recognition approach, but in the end, ye poor ole' structural biologist will still have to do x-ray crystallography or NMR on the protein.

Besides, from what I hear, super computers are more efficient in terms of energy consumption.

scnr...

Wibla · Post by **Wibla** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:00 pm

I switched to rosetta@home because of the local team, nothing else.

I use it as a means to heat up my apartment, as I live in norway... works pretty good with 25GHz worth of cpu power chugging along... (2x E6600 + Q6000 @ 3.1GHz + Celeron 3GHz)

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