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Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:52 am

Here is one interesting CPU Cooler
http://www.nofencomputer.com/eng/

They apparently make special cases for it as well.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by tim851 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:41 am

Jesus, that thing is huge.

Factor in the Scythe Susanoo and a new age of gigantism seems to be dawning.

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by kiblams » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:41 am

Would struggle to run a graphics card with that beast in your system unless you have a multi GPU board and can leave the first slot empty. :?

:shock: Seems totally overkill to me, especially as the smaller the manufacturing processes get for chips the less heat they will produce...

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:22 pm

tim851 wrote:Jesus, that thing is huge.

Factor in the Scythe Susanoo and a new age of gigantism seems to be dawning.
Very Very Very Impressive. I wonder how tall it is.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by andymcca » Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:37 pm

Only 2 heat pipes, and not direct touch?

I would laugh if this thing has higher thermal impedance than more normal sized coolers. :D

Edit: looks like it's 4 heat pipes and they are only leaving the base in one direction per pipe...
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by Fire-Flare » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:02 pm

ces wrote:
tim851 wrote:Jesus, that thing is huge.

Factor in the Scythe Susanoo and a new age of gigantism seems to be dawning.
Very Very Very Impressive. I wonder how tall it is.
160mm tall by 210mm square.

http://www.scythe.co.jp/products/cpu/susanoo.html
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:17 pm

andymcca wrote:Only 2 heat pipes, and not direct touch?
I would laugh if this thing has higher thermal impedance than more normal sized coolers. :D
Edit: looks like it's 4 heat pipes and they are only leaving the base in one direction per pipe...
Well, it is dustless... it has what looks like wires for fins.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by tim851 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:14 pm

Fire-Flare wrote:160mm tall by 210mm square.
Ah, so it uses four 100mm fans and not 120mm fans, as a lot of news snippets claim.

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by Modo » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:01 am

Judging by the weight, they spread the fins of a standard high-end heatsink to make airflow easier. Good idea, but the covering of a GPU slot seems unnecessary.
andymcca wrote:Only 2 heat pipes, and not direct touch?

I would laugh if this thing has higher thermal impedance than more normal sized coolers. :D
The direct touch thing is overrated. A flat surface works perfectly well for many models, even at the very high end, as you can see in various charts.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by zzai123 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:05 am

Direct touch heat pipe is aim to lower the cost. Flat surface has better performance, actually, some cooler (e.g. thermalright) is not exactly "flat" because of the shape change when touching the CPU cover.

210(L)*210(W)*160(H)mm including the fans?

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by Darth Santa Fe » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:31 pm

I think that fanless cooler is only for CPUs up to about 90W or so. I wonder how it would do if they used an extra heatpipe or two?

That Scythe cooler is stupid huge. I wonder if it will actually perform as well as it is big? And I wonder how many people will actually be able to use it?

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by Plekto » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:30 pm

Actually, fanless is only good for about 40-50W max. Beyond that, it's horrendously hard to get rid of the heat quickly enough without a massive external heat sink or something similar.

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:58 am

Plekto wrote:Actually, fanless is only good for about 40-50W max. Beyond that, it's horrendously hard to get rid of the heat quickly enough without a massive external heat sink or something similar.
While many CPUs are capable of generating such heat outputs... they seldom in practice come anywhere close to doing so. That is doubly so for the most recent generation of cpus.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:56 am

ces wrote:Here is one interesting CPU Cooler
http://www.nofencomputer.com/eng/
They apparently make special cases for it as well.
Well here is the review on it:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/ ... t-a40.html
The passive Nofen heatsink is compared to the passive Thermalright HR-2 (I think this is the first HR-2 review that I have seen)
They also tested a nonpassive Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus at 600 RPM

The review is a mixed bag, but the Nofen seems to perform reasonably well against the Thermalright HR-2 and the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus at 600 RPM

As Prolimatech was spun out of Thermalright,
Nofen Corporation was spun out of Zalman
Nofen is less than a year old. It's focus is on quiet PCs.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by NeilBlanchard » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:14 am

They don't seem to mention the efficiency of their PSU. Are the "wires" on the heatsink actually heatpipes?
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by andyb » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:41 pm

Are the "wires" on the heatsink actually heatpipes?
Nope. they are akin to the "pins" of the classic "Alpha" heatsinks.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&co ... 0&bih=1025

The only differences are of course that the wires or "long pins" are attached to heatpipes, and obviously they are much longer. If they were heatpipes they would be very fragile at only 2mm thick, and would cost a fortune to manufacture.

I find this interesting because it works. If this design works, no doubt others can make it work as well, ideally with a much smaller design.


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Post by NeilBlanchard » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:37 pm

I have an Alpha leftover from an AMD Socket A system, sitting on the shelf above my desk. Good ideas get recycled?
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by fumino » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:29 am

i think an obvious evolution on this design exists in my kitchen, as a double balloon whisk. it'd take up the same amount of space, but you could increase the length of the wires.
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Post by NeilBlanchard » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:34 am

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nofen "Whisk" cooler

Post by ces » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:32 am

The Nofen cooler seems to call out for a 500 rpm downdraft fan in the middle.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by Deucal » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:43 am

tim851 wrote:Jesus, that thing is huge.

Factor in the Scythe Susanoo and a new age of gigantism seems to be dawning.
Seen that one in the shop here in Akihabara in Tokyo, [expletive deleted] that thing is huge.

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by dkslim » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:12 am

When will it be available in shops? I want it...

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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by fumino » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:13 am

Performance-PCs has the scythe susanoo! lots of specs and pictures...

honestly... i think if i had a p190/3 this would be something i'd consider. probably be able to get away with only using that side fan.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by quest_for_silence » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:34 am

fumino wrote:if i had a p190/3 this would be something i'd consider.
It doesn't fit (IIRC).
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:26 am

quest_for_silence wrote:
fumino wrote:if i had a p190/3 this would be something i'd consider.
It doesn't fit (IIRC).
I myself prefer the Parrot Drone. It is even more ostentatious. I think you can put it in hover mode. How about bringing that to the lan party :)

Size does make a difference.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by fumino » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:38 am

quest_for_silence wrote:
fumino wrote:if i had a p190/3 this would be something i'd consider.
It doesn't fit (IIRC).
its 160mm high with the fans, so only 135 without them. definitely would fit.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:26 pm

fumino wrote:its 160mm high with the fans, so only 135 without them. definitely would fit.
Agreed.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by quest_for_silence » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:43 am

fumino wrote:so only 135 without them. definitely would fit.

Yes, Rev. B has an actual clearance of 145mm.

Just as a side note, provided it fits without its fans, I don't know whether or not it would be a really good idea (to pair this cooler with that enclosure), but that's a completely different (OT) argument.
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by ces » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:49 pm

tim851 wrote:Jesus, that thing is huge.

Factor in the Scythe Susanoo and a new age of gigantism seems to be dawning.
Susanoo is now for sale:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... a0b75f0ef0
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Re: Here is one interesting CPU Cooler

Post by fumino » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:34 pm

ces wrote:...Susanoo is now for sale:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... a0b75f0ef0
fumino wrote:Performance-PCs has the scythe susanoo!...
thanks for the update though.
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