Contest: Silence the Vantec Tornado!!!

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Contest: Silence the Vantec Tornado!!!

Post by Dos_Junkie » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:21 pm

Any single silence modder will stay far away from the Vantec Tornado 92mm casefan. At 119 cfm, it's definately a great cooler, but at 62+ DBs, noone will touch it.

Here's my contest (you win nothing, NOTHING!): Silence the Beast!

Use anything you want at any price range, but your muffler or other silencer MUST FIT IN A STANDARD ATX CASE whereas the fan will be mounted in the blowhole.

Good Luck.
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Post by wumpus » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:43 pm

It's pointless.

You will end up reducing airflow so much with mufflers, etc, that you might as well have started with a quieter, lower airflow fan to begin with.

That, or else the level of isolation would be ridiculously prohibitive: eg, in a bank vault deep underground vented by a 20 foot chimney lined with eggcrate acoustic foam.

Personally I'd rather talk about how to build a lightsaber :D

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Post by Dos_Junkie » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:49 pm

awesome response. I couldn't think of a way to do it either. Just thought about posting the most insane contest ever for extremem silence modders to tackle.

20ft chimney lined with foam... seems about right though :wink:

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Post by mathias » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:33 pm

314? It says they only push 119cfm.

Couldn't you just run it off the 3.3 volt line? Or use the 5v line as the 12v line, and the 3.3v line as the ground, or just use resistors? The resistor probably would produce enough heat to cancel out the cooling. I assume you meant to disallow the obvious solution.

As to whether it would be at all useful, I guess the increased depth could, but very likely wouldn't be helpful.

The perfect solution, run it of a batery. Assuming it starts at 1.25v, on a 2000mAh batery, it should work for 2 hours. Maybe it'll ironicaly be quiter than a typical batery powered fan.

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Post by lenny » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:14 pm

Use the infamous 0V mod. Simply attach a resistor of near infinite resistance between the red wire and any voltage supply, between the black wire and ground, or both.

I personally guarantee this will silence the fan. If it doesn't, you get your prize money back.

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Post by mathias » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:25 pm

Shouldn't it have to still do something? How about having it disabled most of the time, until it's triggered by an anti-theft system? Or have one installed as a bottom exhaust fan which can be turned on once in a while to pull out dust.

101 uses for a vantec tornado. Weapon, weedwacker, boat propellor, component in vacuum cleaner...

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Re: Contest: Silence the Vantec Tornado!!!

Post by Stupid boy » Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:25 am

Dos_Junkie wrote:Any single silence modder will stay far away from the Vantec Tornado 92mm casefan. At 314 cfm, it's definately a great cooler, but at 62+ DBs, noone will touch it.

Here's my contest (you win nothing, NOTHING!): Silence the Beast!

Use anything you want at any price range, but your muffler or other silencer MUST FIT IN A STANDARD ATX CASE whereas the fan will be mounted in the blowhole.

Good Luck.
Although I have been thinking about using it as a case fan in a server, it is normally used as a CPU fan.

Anyway, I have an idea, but it would require modification of the fan. Does it still count as a Tornado then?

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Post by burcakb » Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:03 am

Mount the fans (two of them) at each ear at 1 mm distance. Resulting noise & air pressure should rupture your eardrums, silencing not just the fans but everything

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Re: Contest: Silence the Vantec Tornado!!!

Post by Dos_Junkie » Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:36 am

Stupid boy wrote: Although I have been thinking about using it as a case fan in a server, it is normally used as a CPU fan.

Anyway, I have an idea, but it would require modification of the fan. Does it still count as a Tornado then?
Mod the case, go ahead, I love to see what people can come up with.

I personally build an external muffler that had 25 bends externally, and 8 internally, just to dampen the noise.

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Post by Splinter » Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:41 am

Elastically suspend it inside a hard-vacuum chamber.

It'll spin at even HIGHER than normal RPM, and produce no noise ;)

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Post by Qwertyiopisme » Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:51 am

Splinter wrote:Elastically suspend it inside a hard-vacuum chamber.

It'll spin at even HIGHER than normal RPM, and produce no noise ;)
Untill it overheats and melts :P

(No air - No cooling)

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Post by DanceMan » Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:29 pm

Qwertyiopisme wrote:
Untill it overheats and melts :P

(No air - No cooling)
Melted perhaps, but still silenced.

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Post by Splinter » Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:53 am

Qwertyiopisme wrote:Untill it overheats and melts :P

(No air - No cooling)
Thank you Qwerty, that was the joke.

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Post by Sledge » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:32 am

I can win this contest:

step 1 - go to Directron.com

step 2 - find listing for Panaflo 92mm L1A

step 3 - purchase said Panaflo

step 4 - wait a few days for shipping

step 5 - remove Vantec and install Panaflo

step 6 - throw Vantec in wastebasket

step 7 - ???

step 8 - PROFIT!!! :D (with apologies to the Underpants Gnomes)

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Post by Ralf Hutter » Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:48 am

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Post by sthayashi » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:23 am

Immerse it in a bucket of water.

Or if you still want functionality, how about a bucket of mineral oil?

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Post by lenny » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:02 am

Ralf, your solution is too loud, although I must admit the noise duration is quite brief. However, it does have the unfortunate side effect of attracting law enforcement attention if used in urban areas, and their sirens are definitely not silent. And neither are most jails.

Not that I have any personal experience, of course :-)

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Post by shathal » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:31 am

OK - if Ralf's suggestion is a bit OTT, how about this one?

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:D

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Post by mathias » Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:02 am

Don't you know that active weaponary is a bad idea when passive weaponary will do? Just because it's old, doesn't mean it's useless.

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Post by lenny » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:56 pm

mathias wrote:Don't you know that active weaponary is a bad idea when passive weaponary will do? Just because it's old, doesn't mean it's useless.
Translation, please. Do you mean I should attack the Tornado with a club?

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Post by Tibors » Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:40 pm

No, that is too hightech too.
Just crush it below your heel.

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Post by shathal » Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:12 pm

Long distance throw over a cliff? :)

Make it an olympic event :D

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Post by mathias » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:57 pm

lenny wrote:
mathias wrote:Don't you know that active weaponary is a bad idea when passive weaponary will do? Just because it's old, doesn't mean it's useless.
Translation, please. Do you mean I should attack the Tornado with a club?
Yeah, or a sword, or 10 pound wrench or sledgehammer.

I meant to make a parallel to passive/active cooling.

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Post by Splinter » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:11 pm

Most passive forms of attack will also be fairly noisey, especially on impact.

I suggest placing it in a tin can and putting it on a ring on the oven.

It'll be silent, unless you use the (optional) exhaust hood

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Post by Elixer » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:06 am

What about mounting it in a ripped apart Bose radio thingamajig. You know the one that they're always selling with their patented waveguide technology. That thing has a long enough tunnel so it's bound to silence the fan quite a bit. Granted, the thing costs $500.

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Post by Gholam » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:21 am

How about simply unplugging it and leaving it that way, eh? ;)

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Post by Dos_Junkie » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:17 pm

this has come to be quite the popular thread. Seems many people hate the noise of this thing :lol:

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Post by DanceMan » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:25 pm

Dos_Junkie wrote:this has come to be quite the popular thread. Seems many people hate
Vantec, short for noisy, overpriced, and underperforming.

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Post by BarCodeBlack » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:21 pm

I quite like the idea put forward by Ralf Hutter and shooting the damn thing, but instead of attracting the unwanted attention of law enforcement, turn it into a licensed sport.

Instead of using an assualt shotgun, you could use a sporting shotgun. Using the Vantec Tornado and the various other noisey beasts we all must have picked up at some point over the years, and use them like clay pigeons.

I'd quite happily hand over the 3 Nidec 120mm fans I have in my server and use them in just this way.

"Pull!"

"BANG! ... BANG!"

"I say ... bloody good shot Wilson."

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Post by Kwiet » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:26 pm

It is very easy to modify the Vantec Tornado...simple 5 step process.

1) Don't undervolt it...overvolt it! Run it at 120-240VAC and after it "adjusts" to the new voltage...it will be silent.

2) Cut out motor, struts and fan blades

3) Mount on top of heatsink

4) Mount Zalmann 92mm on top of the Tornado

5) Plug in Zalman to inline resistor and enjoy your new and improved Tornado! :P

If you are going to use the Tornado for a case fan... well, that is quite different

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