New Samsung drives officially posted. One is a 2.2 bel idle.

bishyb · Post by **bishyb** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:16 am

Anyone body else notice these? - http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=308201&cks=SPK

Samsung SpinPoint P80SD 160GB SATA II 8MB 7200RPM NCQ

Pld Samsung

Can't wait for 250 SATAII drives to arrive in stock myself tho

luminous · Post by **luminous** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:08 am

I seriously hope that they are quieter than the old P80 series. I paid extra to get 2 Nidec 160Gb 7200rpm 8Mb IDE ones. 1 was great, just as people have said. The other was terrible, much louder idle whine than any of my other drives. I returned it and they sent me a JVC, the JVC is better than the faulty Nidec, but it does have a lot of idle whine that is easily noticeable at night.

I really hope these new drives from Komplett are the business. If so, they are going to be getting an order from me!

snaky · Post by **snaky** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:24 am

atus wrote: - haven't found any Linux NVRaid drivers on the Net

That isn't hardware RAID anyway, so you better use native linux software raid functionality. Check http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#nvidia for more info.

atus · Post by **atus** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:45 am

Hi! Thanks for the link.

If I only used Linux, software RAID would obviously be the best choice. It could very well be faster too. But I'm also using Windows. Here are my findings and points to note:

- the reason I'm using RAID-1 is to be able to continue immediately if one drive fails. So Windows boot partition is kind of a necessity.
- it's not possible to use a Windows boot partition without the NVRaid disk at installation, using only the Windows software RAID
- but NVRaid puts the whole of both drives into a logical unit
- I checked and with a recent Linux kernel it's still possible to handle the two drives independently, even though the BIOS RAID setting puts the two volumes into one logical unit
- so it seems I can install Linux on an empty partition of one of the disks -- that's good, but since it's only on one disk, it's not redundant
- unfortunately it doesn't seem possible -- without a third mass-storage device at least -- to write files in Linux, and use them in Windows. That's because Linux isn't able to write the nVidia RAIDed partitions.

I have recently found a development effort called "DMRaid" which is supposed to handle nForce RAID volumes. What is uncertain is if it's a standard part of the Linux kernel, if it also handles nForce 4 RAID volumes, and if it is able to boot Linux from a RAIDed partition. I think I'll leave the Linux partition reserved until the above questions are clear. Don't want to endanger my data in any way.

Bye!

snaky wrote:
atus wrote: - haven't found any Linux NVRaid drivers on the Net
That isn't hardware RAID anyway, so you better use native linux software raid functionality. Check http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#nvidia for more info.

dis · Post by **dis** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:21 am

Komplett.co.uk now have the 200Gig SATA 120's in stock. I'll post back once i've got my hands on one.

Longbow · Post by **Longbow** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:46 am

subscribe for update

waiting SP2004C instock here in NZ

GeekyGeek · Post by **GeekyGeek** » Sun May 01, 2005 2:57 am

I've bought SP2014N ATA 133 200GB and im really happy with this drive,it's really quiet and seeks are quiter than in BIV which was exchanged for this drive.It's NIDEC.

masp · Post by **masp** » Sun May 01, 2005 5:57 am

Ordered a v120ce 250GB a few days ago. It was a long time since I had a 5400rpm drive but hopefully performance should be enough. Does anybody have any experience with this drive?

mahkum2 · Post by **mahkum2** » Sun May 01, 2005 8:19 am

Samsung's Spinpoint P120 Hard Drive:
Ready for the Big Leagues?

dis · Post by **dis** » Tue May 03, 2005 6:04 am

For anyone interested the 200Gig SATA drive i got from Komplett.co.uk is a Nidec, i'll compare the noise to my old Spinpoint tonight.

dan · Post by **dan** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:06 am

dis wrote:For anyone interested the 200Gig SATA drive i got from Komplett.co.uk is a Nidec, i'll compare the noise to my old Spinpoint tonight.

dis
i'd be interested. are all sp120's nidec? has anyone gotten a jvc sp120?

Grubert · Post by **Grubert** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:28 am

Hi, I've just received an SP2004c from a Swiss etailer and it's a Nidec.

Can't tell you much more because I'm still waiting for other components.

Reterminator · Post by **Reterminator** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:32 am

dis wrote:For anyone interested the 200Gig SATA drive i got from Komplett.co.uk is a Nidec, i'll compare the noise to my old Spinpoint tonight.

Yep, I'm interested too.

Pauli · Post by **Pauli** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:36 am

Any news about when these are coming to the States?

Ackelind · Post by **Ackelind** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:49 am

Just got my 200GB P120 SATA from komplett.se

It's a nidec. The idlewhine is lesser than my DM9, but the seeks are louder (the DM9 has AAM activated, the samsung seems to have it disabled and samsungs disc utility doesn't seem to support the new drives)

dis · Post by **dis** » Tue May 03, 2005 12:26 pm

I haven't had time to use the drive much yet but so far its comparable to my old Spinpoint (160Gig JVC), the idle noise is different but not substantially better or worse (there were 'good' JVC models from what i remember, so its possible i have one of those). The read / write noise is a lot lower at the moment, but a large part of that may well be down to the drive not being fragmented. Not sure if the drive will 'burn' in, over a few hours use.

No idea whether they're all Nidec's or not, but i'd suspect all of the drives in the current batch will be.

I'll have time to install windows over the weekend and if theres anything interesting to report i'll post back. So far though, its much of the same but with a slight space and speed boost.

dan · Post by **dan** » Sat May 28, 2005 9:09 am

how do these sp120's compare to notebook drives?

samsung lists their 40gb notebook drive at 2.2 bels versus 2.5 bels.

masp · Post by **masp** » Sun May 29, 2005 12:27 am

Got my v120ce/ha250jc recently. It's a bit less noisy then my sp1203n (maybe 1db) and lower freq noise (5400rpm...). It's a nidec as the sp1203n. The v120ce is still noisy compared to my old barracuda IV 40G. I'm only comparing idle noise between the drives.

SixToes · Post by **SixToes** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:38 am

I think I'm going to get a v120ce HA250JC. How long is the warranty on it? Any complaints so far?

Thanks!

Reterminator · Post by **Reterminator** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:47 am

madman2003 wrote:The sata versions i've seen at a polish shop, can't read polish though: http://rodan.net/eSklep/prod?id=250+sata+ii+sp2504c

I'm Polish so there goes a translation of the columns' names (post me if you need aught more):
Producent: Vendor
Model: Model
Pojemność: Capacity
Prędkość obrotowa: Rotation Speed
Interfejs: Interface
Pamięć Cache: Cache Memory
Technologia: Technology
Transfer wewnętrzny: Internal transfer
Średni czas dostępu: Average access time
Głośność - praca: Noise - seek
Czas bezawaryjnej pracy : MTBF
Inne: Others

madman2003 · Post by **madman2003** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:37 pm

I've recieved the first components for my computer, three SP2004C. All nidec's as i suspected. As i have nothing else i can't test the drives for a while. Just wanted everyone to get another conformation that the new drives are all nidecs.

Oliver · Post by **Oliver** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:35 pm

What's a Nidec?

Reterminator · Post by **Reterminator** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:33 pm

samsungs used to have two types of motors: JVC and NIDEC. NIDEC is generally better (I mean quieter) - read the reviews of spinpoints.

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:42 pm

the serial ata 2 p80's are here.

masp · Post by **masp** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:36 pm

SixToes wrote:I think I'm going to get a v120ce HA250JC. How long is the warranty on it? Any complaints so far?

Thanks!

No complaints but a SP2514N is alot faster, not important for me though. Actually don't know about the warranty but a modern 5400rpm shouldn't break that easy

winguy · Post by **winguy** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:16 am

This P120 SATA Series Spec Sheet suggests the 200GB utilising 100GB platters, in contrast to 125GB in the 250GB. That explains the not-so-high (average) read speed posted by some owners here.

wim · Post by **wim** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:58 am

i will be picking up another 3.5" HD on saturday (tomorrow) so i'd like to quickly hear if anyone has experience with both a P80 and P120. i just want to know about the acoustics. 160GB will be sufficient and performance not important, so if the older P80 has the better acoustics i will probably get one of those (motor is a non-issue, nidecs are everywhere here). i've used a 160GB spinpoint (nidec) before and it was good, but if the newer drives are same or even better i may aswell get them. i've searched for "P120 AND P80" but couldn't find an authoritative answer, i am aware that samsung rates the P120 as quieter but i have more faith in opinion of an spcr member..

Kaizer · Post by **Kaizer** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:06 pm

wim wrote:i will be picking up another 3.5" HD on saturday (tomorrow) so i'd like to quickly hear if anyone has experience with both a P80 and P120. i just want to know about the acoustics. 160GB will be sufficient and performance not important, so if the older P80 has the better acoustics i will probably get one of those (motor is a non-issue, nidecs are everywhere here). i've used a 160GB spinpoint (nidec) before and it was good, but if the newer drives are same or even better i may aswell get them. i've searched for "P120 AND P80" but couldn't find an authoritative answer, i am aware that samsung rates the P120 as quieter but i have more faith in opinion of an spcr member..

My SP2014N has a faint, directional whine but its much softer in comparison to my old SP1614N with a whiny JVC motor. Seek noise wise, both drives are about the same in magnitude with the SP2014N having a slightly higher pitch. Some (this may apply to all but I am not sure yet) new 200+ GB Samsungs (both ATA and SATA versions) do seem to have a head parking noise that is not heard in the older Samsung drives (it is a distinctive metal to metal scraping sound that is heard after the drive is powered off).

Well, that's my experience with my SP2014N so far. Hope this sheds some light to the new Samsung HDDs.

wim · Post by **wim** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:59 am

thanks Kaizer. pinch and a punch for the first day of the month.

anyone used both of a nidec P80 and P120?

Caudipteryx zoui · Post by **Caudipteryx zoui** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:14 am

For my summer build I will likely have to decide between P120 SATA-II SP2004C (100GB*2), P120 SATA-II SP2504C (125GB*2), or a P80 SATA-II HD160JJ (80GB*2?). I'd like to know how they all compare to my P80 PATA SP0812N (80GB*1) w/ Nidec motor or something from the same SPCR-recommended family.