I had a company up for a pre-order and they have real-time status of their stock.
The case was supposed to be in yesterday. Now its bumped to June 8th and 15th. Just wondering how much longer we will have to wait...
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I'm wondering about the exhaust from the PSU being sucked into the video card cooler. (This was pointed out in a thread at Anandtech.) A "mod" I'm considering is putting a hood over the PSU exhaust that is 3-6" long to exhaust the air further away from the system.MikeC wrote: Re the "cover" when not using the top fan -- this was discussed at some point, but long after the build was "fixed" (for the first run anyway). It is easy to block the hole with many different types of materials. It's probably one of the few areas a silencers might want to actually do a MOD... that's not so scary, is it? The other thing is that the top fan actually may be a bit more effective, maybe because of convection.
That's a great idea! I might use Modder's Mesh on mine--that should alleviate some of this risk that everyone was all @$%^ about earlier in the thread...E M F wrote:A "trimmed-case" Seasonic, with the removed cage replaced by black high-tensile-strength steel mesh similar to that used in fencing masks.
With due respect, most of us were not, erm, @$%^ or even &*()~!ing about the riskEdward Ng wrote:That's a great idea! I might use Modder's Mesh on mine--that should alleviate some of this risk that everyone was all @$%^ about earlier in the thread...
I agree with both points. But it would be nice to know before spending about $170.lenny wrote:DOH! I never saw the "Download... pdf" link. Thanks.ExpertNovice wrote:You can even get the PDF for the mechanical drawings
To save you a couple of clicks, they are : 150*140*86 mm (5.9" *5.5" *3.4")
The Seasonic 430 is 1.7" shorter than the Phantom 500. Big difference with the space between the PSU and mid-case fan. Quick someone test it and report your findings.
Thy Left Elbow wrote:I can't imagine Antec building a top-of-the-line case that wouldn't fit their best PSU.
Anyway, the way I see it the PSU compartment seem to be designed with the Phantoms in mind with all the venting around the mount.
Whatever is true, we'll know soon enough anyway.
I was actually thinking of removing quite a bit of material and using some soft sponge or foam underneath as necessary for support in case the structure gets too weakened; modder's mesh won't bare much weight but at least it will keep things from somehow falling into the PSU...lenny wrote:With due respect, most of us were not, erm, @$%^ or even &*()~!ing about the riskEdward Ng wrote:That's a great idea! I might use Modder's Mesh on mine--that should alleviate some of this risk that everyone was all @$%^ about earlier in the thread...A couple of us merely pointed out the risk, and one poster was, erm, a little terse in his dismissal of the method proposed.
Having said that, I'd love to see how your mod turns out.
Trying to picture it in my mind, it seems that the main side that has to be modded is the side facing the fan (and where the DC cables come out from). This is the half, however, that the PSU is attached to. The top cover includes the sides facing the user (when the PSU is mounted and the case is open) and the side opposite to that. That cover can actually be left on without interfering with airflow (except for convection out the top, and you'll have a big open hole there anyway if you started with a 120mm fanned PSU.
When Antec finally broke down and gave us a target date for release it was end of May to early June. If my memory is working...thetoad30 wrote:Yes, but how soon?
I had a company up for a pre-order and they have real-time status of their stock.
The case was supposed to be in yesterday. Now its bumped to June 8th and 15th. Just wondering how much longer we will have to wait...![]()
Hopefully they don't auction off their first few units on eBay.ExpertNovice wrote:Given what looks to be a huge initial demand I'm just glad I placed my order over 2 weeks ago. Hopefully orders are filled on a first in basis and not alphabetical.
You know, I've been wondering (aloud) about that ever since I saw the first images of the spoiler, and I've seen several people wonder in this thread - I still haven't seen anyone even try answering it, much less someone from Antec or MikeC. In addition to what you say, I usually continue: "On the other hand, if it's not solid, why have it at all? Not for the looks I presume." Hm.frostedflakes wrote:The top "spoiler" - Why not use a solid design, as to redirect noise to the back of the case, instead of allowing it to be released upward? Then again, this could easily be fixed with black electrical tape.
Hmmm. I guess someone at Endpcnoise.com is arguing about this. Website for ordering P180 "packages" appeared Tues. night/Wed. morning, then a line is added stating that the case isn't available yet, and to email them for "reservations" -- then, when you do, Darin restates the fact that they're not doing preorders, and that the cases will be for sale in about 1 to 1.5 months.IceWindius wrote:BS. I called up the company and the gentlemen said they would have their preorder section for their website up next week for the P180 when the arrive next month, so apparantly, there is some communication breakdown. MIKE! Fix it!!
Isn't that painfully obvious? Just look at the angle of the "spoiler" and consequently the crossection of the rear exhaust part of it in photos like this one. Even with the vents on the sides it doesn't come close to the cross section of the 120mm fan. Closing the mesh with a fan running underneath is called an airflow restriction. Either have a fan in there and don't pour liquid on your case, or do not have a fan (the one in the rear should suffice if you're aiming at lowest noise), and close the top entirely.moritz wrote:You know, I've been wondering (aloud) about that ever since I saw the first images of the spoiler, and I've seen several people wonder in this thread - I still haven't seen anyone even try answering it, much less someone from Antec or MikeC. In addition to what you say, I usually continue: "On the other hand, if it's not solid, why have it at all? Not for the looks I presume." Hm.frostedflakes wrote:The top "spoiler" - Why not use a solid design, as to redirect noise to the back of the case, instead of allowing it to be released upward? Then again, this could easily be fixed with black electrical tape.
Hm. I think a simple wire grill would have been more sensible, then. If you make it extruded, it will also prevent people from putting stuff on it like Rusty suggests. But yeah, the airflow/rear crossection thing makes sense. Wasn't painfully obvious to me, no.Why have the "spoiler" at all? To prevent smaller (solid) stuff from falling in (the fan grill is too open to protect well), I suppose.
Doohh. I really should have thought about this one, given that I manage to clutter every square centimetre of horizontal surface within minutes... (And adding more horizontal surface doesn't help. But I'm reassuring myself that it's really not my fault, but a universal principle: Natura vacuum abhorret - nature abhors empty spaces.)Rusty075 wrote:You've missed another reason for the "spoiler": to help stop people from accidentally blocking the hole by setting stuff there.
What kinda idiot puts crap on top of a well known and placed blowhole on a case?Rusty075 wrote:You've missed another reason for the "spoiler": to help stop people from accidentally blocking the hole by setting stuff there. A flat blowhole is an invitation to absentmindedly setting cd's or somesuch over the opening. Having the spoiler maens that even if you bury the case in junk, you'll still maintain at least partial opening.
All this armchair engineering will be put to rest once the actual review gets finished...then we'll know what the actual impact is of the opening, in terms of noise and temps.
Until then it's all guesswork. Same is true for about 90% is the issues people have raised about other features on this thing.....patience kids, patience
The solution to this should be obvious - make the top of the case round (as in dome / half cylindrical)JanW wrote:Doohh. I really should have thought about this one, given that I manage to clutter every square centimetre of horizontal surface within minutes... (And adding more horizontal surface doesn't help. But I'm reassuring myself that it's really not my fault, but a universal principle: Natura vacuum abhorret - nature abhors empty spaces.)
But, Aria doesn't have the drive expansion capacity or the plentiness of space of P180. I just wanted a case 6cm less tall, but with almost the same expansion. Aria is just a little bigger than my current SK41G. It's OK for an HTPC, but not much more.ddrueding1 wrote:If you are looking for a mATX case that is really quiet, look at the Antec Aria. It uses a lot of the same technology and looks really neat.
I have the Tagan 550, it's almost as long as the Phantom 500 (18.3cm for the phantom vs 17.5 for the Tagan), but unlike the phantom, I can't detatch anything to make it shorter... I wonder if I'm out of luck in terms of getting my PSU to fit.ExpertNovice wrote: Will the Phantom 500 fit? The Phantom 500 is fairly long. It appears based on measurements using the first picture at http://www.silentpcreview.com/article249-page4.html that the space between the PSU and mid-case fan is between .7 and 1.1".