Reserator 1 Plus Heat Dissipation Ability

[teknerd]

So does anybody here know, or know where i can find, how much heat the Zalman Reserator 1 Plus can dissipate. I'm planning and Athlon X2 4400+, northbridge, and 6600GT cooling loop and want to make sure it can handle it (and ideally leave some headroom to overclock the 4400+ a little bit or add a second graphics card).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[~El~Jefe~]

I duno about your hopes of oc'ing the dual core. read about it a bit, so far as i have read it really doesnt oc all that high.

res 1 can do it, sli i would leave out. if you want to use SLI and oc the machine, you really are asking for a ton of heat for a gentle styled water cooling system.

[cotdt]

I have a more power-hungry system than yours, and I even use a peltier. It will cool just fine let me tell you. I'm not even using a pump! My radiator is only slightly bigger than yours.

[~El~Jefe~]

er. no pump.

that's a bit of a strange thing for someone that uses a peltier

giza picture mate

[teknerd]

I have a more power-hungry system than yours, and I even use a peltier. It will cool just fine let me tell you. I'm not even using a pump! My radiator is only slightly bigger than yours.

impressive. Still, i'd like exact numbers
i figure these heat outputss
-proc will be at 130W output (assuming a 4400+ OC'd to 2.5 each)
-the 6600GT's put out about 40W each
-northbridge is probably about 25W

so im hoping that it can dissipate at least 200W.
if anyone can verify how much the reserator can dissipate, it would be greatly appreciated.

[~El~Jefe~]

you must not be a tech nerd

a peltier system is like 4x the power and heat that you need to consider.

[teknerd]

you must not be a tech nerd

a peltier system is like 4x the power and heat that you need to consider.

well it depends on the peltier being used, but also he said that the setup wasnt the same (different radiator and no pump). I am curious about this particular one.

[peteamer]

A few details are here: http://www.overclockers.com/tips1211/

[~El~Jefe~]

lol, you dont use a peltier for an underclocked system thats for sure!


You only CAN use it when you get the die temperature to a high level, otherwise, breath on the chip and it will condense and go poofy.

peltier never would work where i live, it would get too humid, most days its above 90% on a sunny day.

[widman]

I'm interested on the answer as well. I'm thinking of installing reserator with AMD Clawhammer 4000+ and ATI X800XL. The question is what is CPU temp and GPU temp expected in loop under reserator?

Which one better, CPU first or GPU first?

[nici]

I Would say GPU first, for shure if ou are going to overclock. I have CPU first atm but thats just because im too lazy to change the tubing.. The COU might run a bit hotter, but i would have to try if changing the order would improve overclocking of the GPU.

[teknerd]

The order of the components does not matter in the WC loop. The change in temperature of each individual water molecule in a single pass is negligible. It is only over time that the temperature fo the water heats up.
The only thing that matters is that the pump is directly after the resevoir.

[nici]

You learn something new every day...

[Sanderman]

I'm interested on the answer as well. I'm thinking of installing reserator with AMD Clawhammer 4000+ and ATI X800XL. The question is what is CPU temp and GPU temp expected in loop under reserator?

Which one better, CPU first or GPU first?

I've run a 3700+ San Diego and an X800XT PE with the Reserator (in an air conditioned room) and have seen idle temps in the high 30s and load temps in the high 40s. The 4000+ may run a bit hotter but I doubt if it's by much. Get that heat out of the case with the Reserator and throw in an Antec Phantom and you will be well on your way to total silence...

Joe

[cotdt]

I think it can dissipate 80W, but it seems to be able to dissipate a lot more than that when you add things up. I guess it depends what kind of temps you are settling for. You can also go for the more powerful Innovatek Konvect o Matic ULTRA or their HTCS passive radiators.

[Einllel]

So does anybody here know, or know where i can find, how much heat the Zalman Reserator 1 Plus can dissipate. I'm planning and Athlon X2 4400+, northbridge, and 6600GT cooling loop and want to make sure it can handle it (and ideally leave some headroom to overclock the 4400+ a little bit or add a second graphics card).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi teknerd, my actual system looks like what you are looking for.
AMD 64 X2 4400+
GForce 6800 GT
Antec P180 (only 2 top TriCools set on low)
Zalman Reserator 1+
ASUS A8N SLI Premium
Antec Phantom 500 EC
2 x Western Digital Raptor 740 GD (low chamber)
1 Seagate Barracuda II 20 GB (main chamber noisy and hot will be removed soon from my system. The noisiest thing in my system)
Plextor Px-130A
Plextor 716SA

The reserator only cools the X2 and the 6800 GT, my chipset has a coolpipe so it's not necesary to watercool it (never has reached past 50ºC). The temps on idle (now for example with aprox 30ºC room without Air conditioned) cool & quiet set on maxium batery and idling (web browsing and emule)
[CPU 40ºC; GPU 59ºC; NForce4 46ºC].
With cool & quiet set to home or office
[CPU 45ºC; GPU 60ºC; NForce4 46ºC]

After some benchmarking (3dMark 2005) or many hours of gaming (life for speed, half life 2) and procesor without cool & quiet:
CPU <= 50ºC;
60ºC < GPU < 70ºC (the only way to watch it i have now is with rivatunner immediately after closing the game/benchmark so the numbers here are not exact)
45ºC < NForce4 < 50ºC.

I think you could even handle 2 x 6600GT in SLI with the Reserator 1 because they will probably disipate not much heat than my 6800 GT. But you will need to buy an extra GPU Waterblock for the second 6600GT. This block ZM-GWB2 is a great improvement over the previous one from Zalman that was too simple.

NOTE: the CPU and NForce4 temps have been read from ASUS Pc Probe.

That's my expirience and what I can tell you, good luck with your new system. Oh I forgot to tell I have been able to pass some benches at 250 x 10 at 1.45V like 3d Mark 2005 but Prime95 exited with errors so it's not 100% stable, I haven't tried much more but I'm so happy with the performance at stock even with cool & quiet set to maxium battery (5x200 at 1.1V) the system is blazing fast I noticed an improvement over my past system (3500+ & MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum) in everyday use, although the memory benches (with the same sticks I had in my previous system) revelaed a litlle drop in thoroughput (5% more or less).

[teknerd]

Einllel,
Thanks so much, thats exactly what i needed to hear (well see i guess), nice rig btw.

[widman]

thanks Sanderman and Einllel for helpfull information.

I will looking for Reserator in my town.

[~El~Jefe~]

yeah good choice.

the weakest water situation can handle better than a noisy air situation in almost any setup. water just removes and balances out heat so efficiently and reliably.

res1 pwns. id like the res plus but im not re-shelling out my beans again for another system.

also the blue looks nicer.

[Sanderman]

thanks Sanderman and Einllel for helpfull information.

I will looking for Reserator in my town.

You're most welcome. The joint move to a Reserator and Antec Phantom was the best thing I ever did.

[rpsgc]

Can you imagine the benefits (or not) of having a DUAL reserator rig?
(or just a second external radiator)

[~El~Jefe~]

I wonder how a sequential rig setup would be. the resevoir would act as a buffer. im wondering if one pump would have too much to work with or if it would work. that would dissipate a massive amount of heat.

cost a lot as well