Scythe mine CPU cooler reviewed (English translation)
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Scythe mine CPU cooler reviewed (English translation)
Scythe "mine" HSF reviewed.
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Come again?The Scythe mine Cooler straight only for the CeBit presented and already to know we the product for heart and kidneys to examine
Well the translation needs a little work, but the cooler looks great!
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that's google translate for you sir:)Well the translation needs a little work, but the cooler looks great!
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here's another review of the Mine; very consistent results with what Scythe got in their in-house tests.
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Passive the Mine trails the Ninja by a few degress
with Slow fan it's slightly ahead of the Ninja
with Fast fan it's ahead of Ninja and Shogun!
weighs 560gr (vs 760gr Shogun and 800+ Ninja) - 3 heatpipes; multiple socket support and multiple fan support. Price in Europe is aimed at €35 (vs €40 for Ninja).
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Passive the Mine trails the Ninja by a few degress
with Slow fan it's slightly ahead of the Ninja
with Fast fan it's ahead of Ninja and Shogun!
weighs 560gr (vs 760gr Shogun and 800+ Ninja) - 3 heatpipes; multiple socket support and multiple fan support. Price in Europe is aimed at €35 (vs €40 for Ninja).
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The Ninja, with a 120mm fan, is generally higher than 150mm. But the same Scythe 100mm fan that comes with the Mine is available for separate purchase and can be fitted to the Ninja without increasing the height of the Ninja. BTW, my Ninjas (two of them) musta shrunk. They measure 146.6mm, not 150mm as the spec sez.jmke wrote:Mine & 100mm fan= 109 x 105 x 150mm
Ninja only= 110 x 110 x 150mm
With most single-core 90nm AMD CPUs, the minute differences between the HSs and HSFs covered in the review are irrelevant. With any cool-running CPU in the generation arriving late this year, the differences are irrelevant. The hot 130nm CPU generation by both Intel and AMD have certainly taught the industry how to make good HSs and HSFs.
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that's why I say "Ninja only" not "Ninja and fan"
anyway; you are absolutely correct about the performance; if you have Ninja, stick with it. if you dont and want a relative light-weight, easy to install, multiple fan support heatsink with good price, you might consider the new Scythe Mine.
with a bit of luck a sample may find its way into my test setup in time for the next roundup:)
anyway; you are absolutely correct about the performance; if you have Ninja, stick with it. if you dont and want a relative light-weight, easy to install, multiple fan support heatsink with good price, you might consider the new Scythe Mine.
with a bit of luck a sample may find its way into my test setup in time for the next roundup:)
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I have two yet-unanswered questions about the Mine: just what is the "good price", and will the fan blow toward the exhaust fan or toward the PSU using my mobo?jmke wrote:anyway; you are absolutely correct about the performance; if you have Ninja, stick with it. if you dont and want a relative light-weight, easy to install, multiple fan support heatsink with good price, you might consider the new Scythe Mine.
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Yes, there is that . But I meant that not enough information is yet available AFAIK to determine if the fan points in the same direction as on the HR-01 (which needs a fan), or if it points in the different direction of a TT Sonic Tower.jmke wrote:depends on what motherboard you have... what is your motherboard
For the record, my Asus K8S-MX mobo is like most K8 mobos: the HR-01 blows at the PSU and the Sonic Tower blows at the exhaust fan.
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well this cooler uses the S939 clip on system at the sides, so the fan will be in the direction of those clips.
on this pic of the Asus mobo
it would point the fan towards the rear. so the fan will be blowing the air towards the back of the case.
here's a pic of the clips and the S939/S754 mounting bracket
that does mean the HSF has a drawback compared to the Ninja and the Shogun, who both can be orientated to allow fan the blow towards the rear.
on this pic of the Asus mobo
it would point the fan towards the rear. so the fan will be blowing the air towards the back of the case.
here's a pic of the clips and the S939/S754 mounting bracket
that does mean the HSF has a drawback compared to the Ninja and the Shogun, who both can be orientated to allow fan the blow towards the rear.
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Scythe USA now lists the US price: $54 recommended resale! Jab-Tech sells the fanless Ninja for $36.jmke wrote:the Mine... weighs 560gr (vs 760gr Shogun and 800+ Ninja) - 3 heatpipes; multiple socket support and multiple fan support. Price in Europe is aimed at €35 (vs €40 for Ninja).
Big difference between the EU and the US of A.
The Mine does not look like a general replacement for the Ninja in the context of silent computing as the Ninja is better at low air flows. Perhaps the mine will be better in applications involving the hotter Intel processors. However, it has been pointed out that the industry is transitioning to lower power CPU's. Big coolers will keep their place, but mainly as passive devices. We may have even seen a peak in the number of available products of this type.
Meanwhile, a lot of revised coolers will hit the shelves this summer to cope with the AMD AM2 socket and its new hole spacing.
Meanwhile, a lot of revised coolers will hit the shelves this summer to cope with the AMD AM2 socket and its new hole spacing.
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That wasn't intended as a criticism of you, JMKE; just a comment on the current status of the market. But since I seem to have your attention:jmke wrote:Ninja's first resale price was not $36
The Ninja only mounts to "478-compatible" retainers. The new AM2 mount has some very 478-alike features. Are these 478-alike features actually compatible with 478, and hence the Ninja?
Or is the AM2 merely (in part) "alike", and not compatible with 478 and hence not compatible with the Ninja?
According to this:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... i=2688&p=2
The new socket is totally incompatible with all 3rd party coolers.
Read it and weep.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... i=2688&p=2
The new socket is totally incompatible with all 3rd party coolers.
Read it and weep.
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The Scythe Mine has the same mounting system as the Scythe Samurai Z. The mounting of the Samurai Z broke during testing at SPCR. (See page 3 of the review.) So I don't think I'll buy this one either.
Since this cooler uses clip mounting, you can make it fit on the AM2 socket by cutting the end of the clips with tin snips.
Since this cooler uses clip mounting, you can make it fit on the AM2 socket by cutting the end of the clips with tin snips.
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don't weep, look closer at the photodiver wrote: Read it and weep.
now look closer here:
http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/showthr ... hlight=AM2
then realise that making a custom bracket which can fit S478 and S939 is not that hard to make, so I expect many heatsink makers to bring their version of it to the market to allow their current crop of the heatsinks to fit on the AM2 platform.
I've tested the Samurai Z and have not found any of the problems mentioned in the SPCR review; the only thing I did encounter was one of the springs jumping out and getting it back it was a challenge, from what I've seen at Cebit they have slightly improved the clip to prevent this from happening.Tibors wrote:The Scythe Mine has the same mounting system as the Scythe Samurai Z. The mounting of the Samurai Z broke during testing at SPCR. (See page 3 of the review.) So I don't think I'll buy this one either..
Umm, so I take it that using a 120mm fan on the MIME would make it the same height as the Ninja with a 120mm fan?Felger Carbon wrote:The Ninja, with a 120mm fan, is generally higher than 150mm. But the same Scythe 100mm fan that comes with the Mine is available for separate purchase and can be fitted to the Ninja without increasing the height of the Ninja. BTW, my Ninjas (two of them) musta shrunk. They measure 146.6mm, not 150mm as the spec sez.jmke wrote:Mine & 100mm fan= 109 x 105 x 150mm
Ninja only= 110 x 110 x 150mm
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first impressions: clip on system for the different mountings is definity more sturdy than the one used on the Samurai Z; the problem SPCR has in their review, I don't see it happening on this one. I could rather easily remove and install the different socket clips;
performance wise the stock 100mm fan is quite good actually, performance on par/slight better than Ninja with 120mm Papst. Still have to test with the 120mm papst this evening.
all in all looks like a promising cooler for active cooling; passive the ninja is still king
performance wise the stock 100mm fan is quite good actually, performance on par/slight better than Ninja with 120mm Papst. Still have to test with the 120mm papst this evening.
all in all looks like a promising cooler for active cooling; passive the ninja is still king
Newegg sells this for a few dollars more then the ninja.
I am looking for a very quiet heastsink/fan combo for my
XP 64 3200+ CPU on an Epox MB.
They are close enough in price that I will pick the one that will be quieter for my CPU with a fan.
Will either do fine or should I lean towards one over the other?
It's going into a HTPC that I already have the Seasonic 430 and am replacing all the case fans with Yate Loons.
Thanks,
Mark
I am looking for a very quiet heastsink/fan combo for my
XP 64 3200+ CPU on an Epox MB.
They are close enough in price that I will pick the one that will be quieter for my CPU with a fan.
Will either do fine or should I lean towards one over the other?
It's going into a HTPC that I already have the Seasonic 430 and am replacing all the case fans with Yate Loons.
Thanks,
Mark
Just as an FYI - I had problems fitting the Ninja + Fan height.
The lock tabs keep the fan from sitting lower (if you choose to mount it on the side with the lock tabs).
I cut the tabs back on one side so now the fan can sit about 1cm lower.
This blows a little more air through the bottom sink as well.
Looks like that isn't an issue with the Mine though.
The lock tabs keep the fan from sitting lower (if you choose to mount it on the side with the lock tabs).
I cut the tabs back on one side so now the fan can sit about 1cm lower.
This blows a little more air through the bottom sink as well.
Looks like that isn't an issue with the Mine though.
Another review here: http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3528&s=5
The site is painfully slow though (for me), and they only use the XP90C as reference. Only two fans are tested. They also mention that height could be an issue when larger fans are fitted.
I am looking forward to the CPU cooler round up at Madshrimps.
The site is painfully slow though (for me), and they only use the XP90C as reference. Only two fans are tested. They also mention that height could be an issue when larger fans are fitted.
I am looking forward to the CPU cooler round up at Madshrimps.